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Posted: Nov 27 2003, 12:23 AM
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The 35th President Of The United States
John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Born: May 29, 1917 Assassinated Nov. 22, 1963


Was George Bush involved in JFK assassination?

The Men Who Killed JFK:

Nelson Rockefeller
Allen Dulles
Lyndon Johnson of Texas
George Bush
J. Edgar Hoover

Rodney Stich's book "Defrauding America" tells of a "deep-cover CIA officer"assigned to a counter-intelligence unit, code-named Pegasus. This unit "had tape-recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy" from a tap on the phone of J. Edgar Hoover. The people on the tapes were "[Nelson] Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, [Lyndon] Johnson of Texas, George Bush and J. Edgar Hoover."

Could George Bush be involved in the JFK assassination?

In 1963, Bush was living in Houston, busily carrying out his duties as President of the Zapata Offshore oil company. He denied the existence of a note sent by the FBI's J. Edgar Hoover to "Mr. George Bush of the CIA." When news of the note surfaced, the CIA first said they never commented on employment questions, but later relented said yes, a "George Bush" was mentioned in the note, but that it was "another" George Bush, not the man who took office in the White House in 1988.

Some intrepid reporters tracked down the "other" George Bush and discovered that he was just a lowly clerk who had shuffled papers for the CIA for about six months. He never received any interagency messages from anybody at the FBI, let alone the Queen Mary.

It is also worth noting that a CIA code word for Bay of Pigs was Operation Zapata, and that two of the support vessels were named Barbara and Houston.

Many say that George Bush was high up on the CIA ladder at the time, running proprietorial vehicles and placed in a position of command, responsible formany of the Cubans recruited into "service" at the time. All through the Iran-Contra affair, Felix Rodriguez, the man who captured and had Che Guevara killed for the CIA, always seemed to call Bush's office first.

From The Realist (Summer, 1991):

"Bush was working with the now-famous CIA agent, Felix Rodriguez, recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba. It was Bush's CIA job to organize the Cuban community in Miami for the invasion.... A newly discovered FBI document reveals that George Bush was directly involved in the 1963 murder of President John Kennedy. The document places marksmen by the CIA. Bush at that time lived in Texas. Hopping from Houston to Miami weekly, Bush spent 1960 and '61 recruiting Cubans in Miami for the invasion....

"George Bush claims he never worked for the CIA until he was appointed Director by former Warren Commission director and then president Jerry Ford in 1976. Logic suggests that is highly unlikely. Of course, Bush has a company duty to deny being in the CIA. The CIA is a secret organization. No one ever admits to being a member. The truth is that Bush has been a top CIA official since before the 1961 invasion of Cuba, working with Felix Rodriguez. Bush may deny his actual role in the CIA in 1959, but there are records in the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba that expose Bush's role..."

On the Watergate tapes, June 23, 1972, referred to in the media as the 'smoking gun' conversation, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, were discussing how to stop the FBI investigation into the CIA Watergate burglary. They were worried that the investigation would expose their connection to 'the Bay of Pigs thing.' Haldeman, in his book "The Ends of Power", reveals that Nixon always used code words when talking about the 1963 murder of JFK. Haldeman said Nixon would always refer to the assassination as 'the Bay of Pigs'.

On that transcript we find Nixon discussing the role of George Bush's partner, Robert Mosbacher, as one of the Texas fundraisers for Nixon. On the tapes Nixon keeps referring to the 'Cubans' and the 'Texans.' The 'Texans' were Bush, Mosbacher and Baker. This is another direct link between Bush and evidence linking Nixon and Bush to the Kennedy assassination.

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Image below is of the driver "Greer" turning around after JFK was shot in the neck.
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http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/abrahamzapruderfilm.htm



The second most important footage of the assassination of John F. Kennedy has been made available to the public exactly 37 years after his presidency abruptly ended in a hail of bullets.

Watch the 24½-second film recorded Nov. 22, 1963, by Orville Nix Sr. at link below.

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/orvillenixfilm.htm



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JFK´s father was initiated into Free Masonry in Scotland and followed the Scottish Rites. I had acquired a book outlining the entire Scottish Rites including the prescribed method of death for individual Freemasons who betray the Brotherhood. The prescribed method for someone who holds the rank of "Master of the Arches" or "Royal Arches" was to have the top/and or back of their head removed.

How would arches fit in? Think about it. On the Zapruder film you can see Kennedy look at that umbrella opening. Think of the Free Mason tarot card which is the Three of Pentacles. It has three people standing under the arch. You can clearly see Kennedy stiffen up as if he´d seen a ghost. He then looks directly ahead at the underpass. The underpass is covered by a bridge which is another form of an arch that people can walk, drive or go under. It is then he starts looking around. It´s very subtle, but you can see it. They got the message across loud and clear to him and he knew he was about to be hit.

Why did he betray these Nazis/lizards? Because he was about to form a lasting peace with Castro and Cuba. There would be no more war with that part of the world. These lizards/Spartans do not want that since they are in business and make money when there IS war.

I don´t know what Kennedy was thinking in doing this. Perhaps he had had a change of heart or perhaps he realized that he and they had enough money to last them the rest of their lives so why kill and manipulate innocent people. I really don´t know. All I know or think I know is that he was actually thinking about the people for a change and not just the lizard regime.

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Posted: Aug 16 2004, 09:26 AM
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JFK Hit---the real shooters location


http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ3.htm

. It wasn't until 1984, in the TV production "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald," that Vincent Bugliosi simply asked William Newman to specify the bit about the "garden directly behind me" that was in his affidavit of November 22, 1963. Newman specified the area to the east of the pergola; between the Depository and Newman's position on November 22 is a landscaped walkway.



http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ3.htm


In his affidavit, Newman thought the shots came from the direction of the Depository, but was unsure as to the shooter's elevation and so looked no higher than the "garden." The Moorman photo shows the fence on the Grassy Knoll is more to Newman's right than rear, whereas the "garden" — and Depository — are more rearward. To millions of viewers of the Zapruder film, it does initially appear that, in Newman's words, a shot "hit the President in the side of the temple." The autopsy finding and discovery of the Z312-313 forward movement reveal the explosion of the upper right skull was actually an exit wound.



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Posted: Aug 16 2004, 09:28 AM
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http://www.cinemonkey.com/reviews/homzfilm/holmzapruder.html


Abraham Zapruder owned a dress manufacturing company called Jennifer Juniors, located at 5010 Elm street in Dallas, off Dealey Plaza and across the street from the School Book Depository (and for that matter not far from Jack Rubyıs Carousel nightclub). Zapruder had decided not to bring his new camera, a Bell and Howell 8mm with a telephoto lens, to work that day because the morning had been overcast and rainy. But later, the sun broke out, and around 10 am, his secretary, Lillian Rogers, urged him to make the 7-minute trip back home to fetch the camera. When he returned, at 12:25 pm, Dealey Plaza was already thick with people.




. Livingstone also chronicles in exhausting if sometimes confusing detail what happened to the film the day it was shot, the differences between the multitude of Zapruder films in circulation over the years, and also the background of Zapruderıs business partner, Ervin Schwarzt, who he claims was a friend of some Dallas mafia figures and a frequenter of Jack Rubyıs Carousel Club. Schwartz and Ruby had the same rabbi.



Why did Zapruder keep filming?

The man is standing there looking quite obviously at another man being shot. All around him people are hitting the ground. Bullets may very well be whizzing over his head or in front of his face. And yet the man kept going. We are all, of course, quite grateful that he did. But where did he find the strength to keep the camera rolling, while loud reports sounded and echoed around him, and as bluish acrid rifle smoke drifted through the air.

Was this modest dress manufacturer so stolid that nothing would make him take his eyes off history? Was the crossfire that killed Kennedy so fast that he didnıt even have time to react? Or was Zapruder an agent of some higher powers, egged on to go home and get his camera, positioned by agents who were within his employ, manipulated by people in league with mobsters or oil millionaires or government agents?



frames, numbers 314 and 315, were transposed, for which then FBI director J Edgar Hoover apologized. While he was apologizing, he was also writing a memo to the Commission requesting that a copy of the Zapruder film be loaned to the CIA "for training purposes."



The next morning, Stolley arrived at Zapruderıs office, and found Secret Service agents there already. When Zapruder arrived, he showed the film to the group, and throughout the day, screened the film for other reporters who showed up. But by noon, he had sold the film to Life, handing over the original and his own dupe. Stolley sent the film to Lifeı s Chicago printing plant, where black and white reproductions were made. Zapruder was paid $50, 000 at the time for the physical film (ultimately, he was paid $150, 000 for the reproduction rights of his home movie, the print itself staying in the possession of Life).

Meanwhile, late in the afternoon, the FBI sent its print to Washington, where three second generation prints were made.

On Sunday, not long after Lee Harvey Oswald was shot, Life magazineıs publisher, C D Jackson, finally saw the film he had paid so much for. Reputedly he was so shaken by the experience that he decided never to release it for public viewing (Stolley soon after returned to Zapruder and bought all rights to the film).




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Why did Zapruder keep filming?

The man is standing there looking quite obviously at another man being shot. All around him people are hitting the ground. Bullets may very well be whizzing over his head or in front of his face. And yet the man kept going. We are all, of course, quite grateful that he did. But where did he find the strength to keep the camera rolling, while loud reports sounded and echoed around him, and as bluish acrid rifle smoke drifted through the air.


Good question.

He sure kept his composure well and continued filming.

Anyone who has watched home movies that people have taken during an exciting or traumatic event has noticed that the camera does not stay on the target.

How this man continued to get it all on tape is simply amazing.

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We are all, of course, quite grateful that he did.


Yes we are, because the video blows away the Warren Commissions offical conclusion that there was ONE magic bullet that struck the president at least 3 times.


"The American people don't read."
- Allen Dulles speaking about how the American people would respond to the inconsistencies in the Warren Commission report.

See America, THEY rely on you being too distracted... or too lazy to read.

I hope that more and more America citizens will find the time to read and learn about what's really going on with our tyrannical US govt.


The lies used to wage wars for profits, the assault on the environment and the ecosystems, the dumping of raw sewage into the oceans, deforestation, coral reefs dying, dead zones off the coast of Oregon and the Gulf of Mexico, and THEY want to drill for more oil in pristine lands and fragile ecosystems.

Let's not forget... the suppression of clean and renewable and FREE energy!


The dead scientists, the new virus's - West Nile Virus, Corona Virus, Norwalk Virus - the harmful vaccines, all of the poisons we are subjected to daily - flouride, teflon, chemtrails, toxic chemicals, nuclear and toxic waste and mercury in the waters and the fish.

Gulf War I and II vets infected with DU (Depleted Uranium) munitions and their babies born with birth defects.

"When our soldiers risked their lives in the Gulf, they never imagined that their children might suffer the consequences--or that their country would turn its back on them."
http://www.life.com/Life/essay/gulfwar/gulf01.html

Prozac, birth control and other drugs as well as pesticides, toxins, pollution and other poisons flowing into our waters.

We have Mad Cow disease, Avian bird flu, CJD (deer disease) and in the past 30 years a whole slew of new diseases have popped up to infect us.

This is NO coinicidence!

It is destruction by design!

Poisoned by design!

As long as we are ruled by evil beings with no compassion for human or animal life, who consider themselves gods or "like gods", things will only get worse.

Much worse.

These beings come on your television screens and tell us we need more war for peace.

G.W. Bush's latest speech as he announced pulling out 70,000 troops from Asia and Europe so they can be used [as mercenaries] in more staged wars which will make THEM more profits is a good recent example of a liar and deceiver in action.




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Up until a year or two ago, no one could have convinced me that J. Edgar Hoover had anything to do with the murder of JFK. No one! That's all changed now, but I wonder if he only knew about it, but was absolutely powerless to stop it. There was the gov't "mafia" boys I would imagine that kept him in line, for he knew they were capable of killing anyone who got in the way of TPTB, no one being safe, not even Hoover.

Why "they" tried to smear Hoover's name by saying he was a homosexual and transdresser, I guess we'll never know. That part I still won't believe because I think "they" got him, too.

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Posted: Aug 16 2004, 07:06 PM
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Hey Pupp,

What is the trick for listing photos on the Forum discussion?

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Posted: Aug 17 2004, 05:18 AM
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Hey JP, you can do it manually or use the IMG button above.

The images must be online and not be restricted to linking here. Some websites do not want you to suck up their bandwith by linking to their images.

Manual way:

(Note: BJ, you can post images the manual way)


(Do not use asterisks*)

Put [IMG*]before URL and [/IMG*] after the URL to close the tags.

Or use IMG tag button above and enter the URL of where the image is uploaded.


EXAMPLE:
(Do not use asterisks*)
[IMG*]http://www.fantasticpics.com/bushlied.gif[/IMG*]




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Posted: Aug 17 2004, 05:50 AM
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PuPP:
(Without asterisks*)

EX: [IMG*]http://www.fantasticpics.com/bushlied.gif[/IMG*]

Confusing! There are asterisks* in this! Do you write [IMG*] or [IMG]

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Posted: Aug 17 2004, 06:08 AM
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I tried to make it simple.

DO NOT USE ASTERISKS if you want the image to show up.

If you use asterisks, the image WILL NOT show up.

I used the asterisks to demonstrate how the tags will look.





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Well, what do I know about "tags"? There is nothing in the help section to give us "dummies" a clue! It really doesn't matter because I probably can't use them anyway. For those who understand how these things work, your example was simple enough, but illogical for those of us who don't!

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Posted: Aug 17 2004, 06:22 AM
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BJ, if you wish to add an image to a post, you can simply type in an [IMG] tag at the beginning of the URL of the image you wish to display and then put an [/IMG*] tag (Without the asterisk) at the END of the URL.

Hope this helps.

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I'm afraid to ask you this, but here goes. I'm out on the web. I see a pic that would go nicely with a post. Now, seeing all I know how to do is "copy" and "paste", step by step, how do I capture the pic then transfer to the post?

Pretend there is a pic of a monkey. What's the first thing you do? What's the second thing you do?

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Posted: Aug 17 2004, 07:00 AM
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When I see an image I'd like to save or add to a post...

First...

RIGHT CLICK on the image and save it to my hard drive.

Then I upload it to the web storage space of one of my websites.

I've been told that http://www.photobucket.com is a good online storage space to save images to and from which you can use to display them on forums.


By trying to remote link to other websites images, some webmasters become very angry.

I will not give instructions on how to do that.




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Got it.
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Posted: Aug 17 2004, 07:41 AM
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Hi Pupp,

Thanks for the insights on photo commands. Looks like a modified html command. Looks like the system autodetects html URL's, wonder why it does not do the same for photo's?

Lets see if it works. Opps, looks like it does not like the .art extension names, only .gif seems to be ok. Will attempt alternative below.

Anyway, Speaking on the Zapruder Film and its revelations:

One of the things one notices on the Zapruder Film is there appears to be some intense generation loss, perhaps it was intentional. On the cleaner films the 313 frame shows up clear lines of blood spatter and some even show thin and thick like something was spinning.

Example of cleaner frames:

user posted image

The big key from watching Zapruder is to take note of the center projection or locus of these lines. It tends to point to the side of the head and if one slows down Zapruder and goes frame by frame one can see a trench form from the right temple to the forehead.

Which points to situations like the Newman's heard and then dove to the ground when the hypersonic bullet went right beside them. One of the Life photographers seems to have capured this even and even put a line on this photo to show the bullet pathway from the little garden zone between the Pargola and TSBD.

user posted image

It is this set of data that tells Oswald did not do it and even the Life people knew where the bullet came from, then went and got all the rights to the Zapruder Film and left it locked away until the times of the trial in New Orleans.

Now, the curious can begin to sift through the truth and see the finer details that show up in the orginal.

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