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I would ask that this thread be used to add to the evidence of the reptilian influence past/present in our world. Please do not use this thread to debate/debunk the reptilian aspec of the NWO. But I encourage you to add to the research and ocean of knowledge. Thank You. :viper:

Shapeshifting is possible for a number of reasons. I know most won´t believe it and will write this off as krazy, that´s understanable for your average person has been conditioned since birth to deny anything outside their puny mental prisons.

I´m sorry, but I can´t change reality. The Illuminati really are Reptilian shapeshifters.

They are still the same species as the rest of us, however. They just have more Reptilian DNA.

Many non-animal genes have been horizontally inserted into the human genome. Lately, there have been reports that this claim of horizontal transfer has been ´refuted´. This is largely disinformation put out by the Illuminati. It is designed to re-enforce the mainstream religion of conventional evolutionary ´theory´.

On the other hand, mainstream evolutionists also cite that because the human genome has a Reptilian base sequence, this is ´proof´ that we evolved from Reptiles. However, in reality Reptilian and Mammalian genes are provably INCOMPATIBLE under normal circumstances, demonstrating that they DO NOT originate on the same planet. Therefore, the only way they could end up in the same living organism in such enormous relative ratios is via genetic engineering.

In fact, at the moment, even mainstream Earth-technology is incapable of successfully splicing a Reptile with a Mammal in any large relative ratio of Mammalian to Reptilian DNA (or vice versa).

This incompatibility of DNA is the reason why 50/50 hybrids shapeshift rather than looking like a blend between the two races. If two humanoid species are hybridized, the result is a blend between the two, with both DNA sequences activated simultaneously. If two races of incompatible genetics are combined into a hybrid, this hybrid either ends up with a core personality which exists hidden in the implicate order and does not manifest, or, if it is a relatively equal split, this hybrid gains the ability to shapeshift between the two races from which it was hybridized. One manifestation´s DNA closes, whilst the other´s opens. It is really quite simple when you get into Holographic Universe Theory and Quantum Non-Locality (the fact that all events occur simultaneously, not in time nor space, bur rather they are occurring hyperspace, and are pure information (thoughts in the Mind of God)). People think that such a thing as shapeshifting is ´too weird to be real´, but what can! I say?, they are absolutely wrong! It IS real, and very scientifically possib

If you want to see shapeshifting, the easiest way is to go to a mental institution where there are people with Multiple Personality Disorder. When switching from one alter to another, their eye colour and facial features will often change instantanteously. This is a minor form of shapeshifting.

It is possible as a result of the fact that physical (explicate) reality is just a holographic/fractal projection of a timeless pattern in hyperspace (implicate order). When the hyperspace information unfolds in space-time, you end up with a physical form. When the source of the information changes (for instance, if one personality is activated and another is deactivated, or one DNA sequence opens and another closes), the manifestation changes. It is simple modern science. It is simply a fact that this is possible. Just ask Bohm or Pribram.

I don´t think that any videos are available to the public showing shapeshifting. Even if there were, most people would deny their authenticity as a result of mind-control.

Here is one source regarding the several horizontally transferred genes in the human genome:

http://www.angelfire.com/punk/lymedisease/Igenes.html

The genes cannot all be linked to bacteria, because most of them come from aliens or from animals.

In all Earth-species, 97% of the DNA is the same. This is called "Junk DNA" by mainstream science, though they are finally beginning to realise that it has a function. Besides containing many backup sequences which can be activated to bring about adaptations (evolution) (the information contained in which was built by what could be called the Angelic Hierarchy under the direction of God-Mind (other words are applicable. no religion applies to this process)), this 97% of our DNA also codes for the reality in which we reside, the structuring of the relation between our soul-personality and physical reality, and the higher levels of ourselves which exist in the astral and in hyperspace.

Of the remaining 3%, 50% is similar in a banana and a human, and the next sequence in order is Reptilian, then mammalian with some horizontally transferrred genes. Of what is considered the ´human genome´, which consists of about 30,000 genes, 223 or so genes are horizontally transferred genes. About 20% of the human genome is Reptilian. The rest codes for the aspects of molecular and cellular structure which is the same in plants and animals.

(by the way, we are not made from Banana DNA. I was just using it as an example to show how DNA is similar in all species. This DNA would be the same in a Reptilian or any other animal. Most of our physical-reality related DNA codes for proteins and such.)

Horizontally Inserted DNA

http://genomebiology.com/researchnews/defa...ght-20010213-02

Hundreds of genes resemble bacterial proteins not found in other eukaryotes, suggesting extensive horizontal transfer from prokaryotes. These may play roles in xenobiotic metabolism and stress responses.

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This really has to do with the cellular respiration mechanisms of certain alien races involved in our DNA construction. There were 12 main races, and much animal DNA was used to ´fill in the gaps´, and in some cases, merely to play around with genetics in experiments. Most humans on Earth now have residuals of these experiments. Scorpion, Jellyfish, Stingray, Aphid, you name it, someone has got their DNA in a marginal section of their sequence.

And yes, there is also bacterial DNA in our genome, which was inserted to ´mesh´ the DNA sequences of certain non-human alien races with the human DNA. This way we would live and function rather than dying at birth as we would without such DNA.

Our whole genome was ultimatley engineered by the genius Sirian As, who are the most technologically advanced race in the galaxy. Through their genius, a Reptilian and a human could be combined to form a working organism.

Unfortunately, there are still problems with our structure. For instance, the Reptilian brain is actually in constant conflict with the mammalian necortex. In a normal (for instance Pleiadeian) human, the lower brain is of a mammalian type. In Earth-humans, it is Reptilian. In a normal (for instance Draco) Reptilian, the neocortex is of a Reptilian type. Therefore in the original species from which our DNA originates, the brain functions as a whole.

However, in Earth humans there is a sort of dissonance between the neurological patterns of the Reptilian brain and those of the Mammalian neocortex. This can be demonstrated by examining both psychology and EEG scans.

An example of this is moral systems. A guy steals your wallet and runs off with it. The Reptilian brain, being fight or flight in nature, tells you to chase after the guy and kill him. The Mammalian brain tells you to call the police and settle the matter as peacefully as possible.

Your decision depends upon which brain you obey.

It is good to keep a balance between both brains. After all, we are a combination of both species.

Also note that DNA (Deoxyribonucleic Acid) in its physical form is not the absolute form of DNA.

In its absolute form, DNA is a series of hyperspace archetypes (language) that exists in a non-physical state.

Although the term "DNA" refers to a molecule, I use the term to describe non-physical genetics as well because it has been adapted to mean genetics in general.

they are not ´reptiles´, persay, but they do have more Reptilian DNA than most Earth-humans.

All humans on Earth have Draco and humanoid (Lyrian) DNA, but with a smaller percentage of Draco Reptilian than human. However, the Illuminati, created by the Draco, have a 50/50 split between human and Reptilian DNA, giving them the ability to shapeshift between the two forms as a result of many factors, including the incompatibility of human and Reptilian DNA. Mammals and Reptiles are not native to Earth. They originated on separate planets.

Only a small percentage of the Illuminati are shapeshifters, such as Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Philip (Duke of Edinburgh), Baron Guy de Rothschild, George H.W. Bush, David Rockefeller, etc. The rest are mostly people with a somewhat higher percentage of Reptilian DNA than usual which have been recruited by the Illuminati as a result of bloodline, lack of morals, what have you--everything the mafia would look for. Mafias in general are a Draco type of cultural creation, and most of the major ones are controlled by the Illuminati. Most intelligence agencies are as well, including the CIA, KGB ("FSB"), Mossad, etc.

In reality, there is not much truth to the idea of independent government in Europe or America anymore. These governments were always mafia/Illuminati controlled, but now it is far more centralised than before. Once, we had Hapsburg Illuminati infighting with Rothschild Illuminati. Now there is far more cooperation among the Illuminati because they know that the NWO is growing near.

Some day (probably not too far off) the shapeshifting nature of the Illuminati will be revealed. Until then, you will have to examine the evidence in detail to realise the proof--because it exists in a sort of subtle state which can only be seen holistically, for the time being.

:viper:

from stewart swerdlows current illuminati news

"United Kingdom Prime Minister Tony Blair claims to feel fine after his October heart procedure for a condition called supraventricular tachycardia, which is caused by a rapid electrical activity in the upper chambers of the heart and results in irregular and rapid heartbeats. Could this be a residual from shape-shifting? Seems that all of the political big wigs who shape-shift have undergone some sort of medical procedure this year—very interesting!"

Clinton rages against Dimbleby in
Panorama confrontation over Lewinsky

"Bill Clinton loses his temper with David Dimbleby during a BBC television interview to be broadcast this week when he is repeatedly quizzed about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. Visibly angry: Bill Clinton The former American president, famed for his amiable disposition, becomes visibly angry and rattled, particularly when Dimbleby asks him whether his publicly declared contrition over the affair is genuine.

His outrage at the line of questioning during the 50-minute interview, to be broadcast on Panorama on Tuesday night, lasts several minutes. It is the first time that the former President has been seen to lose his temper publicly over the issue of his sexual liaisons with Ms Lewinsky."



Full story at: http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtm.../ixnewstop.html

Martin: When we were talking about the Greys, you talked about the Chitauli. You had described them, the reptilians-now correct me if I’m wrong-were you describing them as tall, thin, large-headed, large-eyed beings?

Credo Mutwa: Yes, sir. They are tall. They walk with a-you see, the Grey aliens walk with a jerking motion, sir, as if there is something wrong with their legs. But, the Chitauli walk very gracefully, like trees gently swaying in the wind. They are tall. They have large heads. Some of them have got horns all around their heads. Now, let me express amazement, there exists-that in one of the films that recently appeared in South Africa, a Star Wars film, the latest one, shows a character EXACTLY like a Chitauli, exactly! It’s got horns all around it’s head. These are the warrior Chitauli. The royal Chitauli have got no horns around their head, but have got a darker ridge reaching from above their forehead to their back. They are very graceful creatures, we are told, sir, but they have got-their little finger is a claw which is a very sharp, straight claw, which they use to punch into human noses, in order to drink human brains in one of their rituals." http://www.metatech.org/credo_2.html




Darth Maul

SEE FULL SIZE IMAGE AT LINK BELOW
http://www.stargods.org/ClintonDarthMaul.jpg



Reptilian Chitauli from the movie Star Wars
When I get letters from people claiming to have seen a person Shape Shift, one factor always stands out. They get very angry which then causes them to literally loose their human composure. It was said that when Al Gore shape shifted live on TV news, he was very angry at the time. In this reported confrontation with Clinton, he was very agitated and angry. I think the photos may be showing a partial shape shift. This is not "smoking gun proof," but is does show something interesting for sure. Let us examine the photo of Clinton.



go here for more pics and info.... http://www.stargods.org/ClintonShapeShift.htm

This post has been edited by PuPP on Dec 20 2004, 11:29 AM

childrens tv show, which is on YTV this morning...

´7 little monsters and a baby´



notice the obvious reptilian features on the humanoid 'monster' characters

following this show is another kids tv show called

´Monster By Mistake´

"Monster By Mistake is a computer animated series that tells a tale of enchantment set in a contemporary world.

Warren Patterson is an 8-year-old boy with allergies who has been enchanted by a magical jewel from a mysterious parallel world. Because of a spell that goes awry, Warren turns into a 7-foot-tall blue monster whenever he sneezes. He can´t return to his normal form until he sneezes again, and it´s anyone´s guess when that may happen! Warren and his older sister Tracy also have to deal with the wicked Gorgool who wants to steal the jewel and use it for his own evil purposes; as well as the other unpredictable spells emanating from the jewel and its accompanying Book of Spells. Luckily, the kids have the help of their friend Johnny B. Dead, a ghost of a musician who secretly lives in the Patterson´s attic. Warren and Tracy´s parents are oblivious to all the magical happenings occurring under their roof, which makes for unending comic possibilities."

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowM...ter_by_Mistake/

I´ll repeat that in case you didn´t read it properly...

"8-year-old boy with allergies who has been enchanted by a magical jewel from a mysterious parallel world. Because of a spell that goes awry, Warren turns into a 7-foot-tall blue monster whenever he sneezes"

Bush has had a lot of injuries which result from shapeshifting. He has covered these up in a very conspicuous maner, so that certain people now believe that he is having seizures. This is incorrect.

The injuries from ´choking on a pretzel´ and from ´falling off of his bike´ are both from shapeshifting. His father demonstrated similar injuries during a supposed bout with Keratosis, which can also be caused by shapeshifting.

But don´t take it from me. This is from Stewart Swerdlow´s website:

A Twisted Pretzel Story

The leader of the "free" world is sporting a large bruise on his left cheek, supposedly the result of choking on a pretzel, losing consciousness, and falling to the floor. This comes a day after he allegedly lost a cap on his tooth that had to be replaced, and a couple of weeks after he had pre-cancerous skin removed from his face and body. Seems like he is falling apart. According to the Chicago Tribune, a question of "how, exactly, a heavily guarded leader of the free world could swallow a pretzel and lose consciousness went largely unexplained." This is a good question. Generally, hybrids that shapeshift develop cancerous skin conditions, Graves Syndrome, skin aberrations, and bone problems due to the constant changing of DNA sequences and restructuring of cellular tissue. Our fearless leader fits the category. Something is going on with him. He is at ritual too often. Some major event is about to occur and he is invoking Reptilian energy too frequently. January 16, 2002

Here are some images of both Bush Jr. and Sr. with shapeshifting-related injuries:

Bush Jr. after the supposed "Bike Accident" (the official explanation was that his tire slipped because of rain. There was no rain the day he supposedly fell off of his bike)



Bush Sr. with injuries supposedly caused by "Keratosis". Interestingly, the same explanation was used on his son at an earlier time. Even if these lesions are caused by a genuine removal of pre-cancerous keratosis, that in itself can be caused by shapeshifting, as a result of the violent change in genetic structure that occurs during shapeshifting.

It is interesting to note the similarities between the injuries of Bush Jr. and Sr



Here is a photograph of Bush Jr. after his alleged "Preztel" injury:



I mean, c´mon, Preztels, Bike Accidents, Keratosis, a cap on this tooth popping off, bone problems. Either Bush Jr. is the world´s most unhealthy 57-year-old, or something weird is going on here. It is obvious to me that that something is--shapeshifting.

One might consider long term effect of narcotics...

I would also ask that this thread ONLY be used to add to the evidence of the reptilian/alien influence past/present in our world.
I wish to make this an archive of information(that others can use as a research tool) like nothing else out their on the net concering this topic. I know it's temping to post, but please refrain from doing so unless you are adding to the evidence/knowledge.



I'm not directing this post to the previous poster and I'm not trying to be an ass, I just want to make it clear for future posters.

Here is a post from Princess Petunia I saved, she wrote this on the old illuminati news message board back in 2001 I believe. This was when I was first introduced to this NWO nightmare and the NWO reptiles and I ran into Wiolawa from www.wiolawapress.com and PP on that forum.

this is be my last post on shapeshifting for now, after this I will go back, back in time, and try to bring some clarity to this surreal asshat.

From stargods.com see full link at http://www.stargods.org/CharlesDifferent.htm






What happened to Charle's mole on the right cheek? It is completely gone in the 2nd photo. Also notice that the bags under his eyes are gone in second photo. Now in the 3rd photo the mole is back again, not only on the other side of the face, but much lower on the corner of his mouth. Prince Charles under goes strange physical changes. Look at the photos here below.

The first two photo show a robust man that fills his suit well. Then in just 7 days there is a mass loss of weight! His neck is much thinner and streached and his suit just hangs on him. In the last photo he looks like a frail old man. All this in just one week? The human body can not loose that much weight so fast. It is dangerous to say the least.

Prince Charles weight has a habit of transforming very rapidly and goes up and down. Besides all that, how does a mole move across a man's face?

When people with DID(dissociative identity disorder) formerly know as MPD, facial features such as scars/tatoos/birth marks/MOLES, will dissapear and reapear. They can be drunk as a skunk or blasted on cocaine, when they change altars, they will be instantly sober. It has been well documented by MANY researchers that most of the elite are MPD's. This is even ingrained into our culture, for example recent movies such as 'Fight club' 'Identity' and 'The Butterfly Effect' all explore this programming, it's just that your average person is so programmed they can't see the bigger picture.

I think this is a fitting time to post this article before I move on.....

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/review.cfm...pe=8&reviewid=3

the following quotes are excerpts from David Ickes Book "The Biggest Secret" pictures and comments and further information were added by me.

Lizard Ubaid figurine holding a lizard baby


Humanoid Draco Warrior to Ubaid Lizard figurine Morph

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowM...6/Dragon_Tales/

"Dragon Tales" Tv show for kiddies. Humanoid talking dragons, occult black magick spells and adverture abound.



Here´s a character from the illuminati created ´childrens´ TV show...

"Quetzal: Hailing from some sort of Dragon Land Mexico, apparently, Quetzal is a wise dragon teacher who instructs the kids and dragons at the School in the Sky. Unlike other dragon adults, he´s only a bit larger than the kids, to keep him easily recognizable to the viewing audience. Quetzal has a magical book that contains reference on many things in Dragon Land. He´s always a great source of advice, but tries as best as possible to only help the kids and dragons in solving their own problems."

O , so just as in mayan times our children are being taught by the dragons, only now on daytime TV, it's almost as if the dragon gods are still here.

Now lets take a look at the reptilian god from ancient mayan times. ´Quetzalcoatl´

"Particularly thirsty for blood was the war god, Huitzilopochtli. On the other hand, Quetzalcoatl(the feathered serpent) was a kinder, gentler god. Quetzalcoatl only demanded the sacrifice of animals such as snakes and butterflies.

The victims of these ritual slaughters were usually warriors captured by the Aztecs in battles or tributes from vassal states in the form of humans offered up for sacrifice. This is why the Aztecs never fully conquered many of the surrounding states. They needed a steady supply of ritual sacrifice victims. If they used their own people for sacrifice then it could cause an uprising.

There was another reason for these ritual sacrifices---cannibalism. After the hearts were removed and the bodies tossed down the temple steps, the limbs were removed and later cooked. As repugnant as cannibalism is to us today, back then to the Aztecs, cooked human bodies were looked upon as great delicacies which explains why only Aztec royalty, not the common people, were allowed to engage in cannibalism. The favorite parts for the Aztecs to munch on were the hands and thighs. The Aztec emperor, Moctezuma, was reported to have been partial to cooked thighs served with tomatoes and chili pepper sauce."

http://www.ccwu.edu/Sharonah_Frederick_The...APTER%20TWO.htm

"the Hopi Indians of the American Southwest celebrate in March the 5-day festival of a plumed serpent by the name of “Pululukan.” (38) The term “kan” denotes, in Maya languages, the dragon , the serpent, the wisdom bringer"

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/trib...eindianhist.htm

"The Great Horned or Plumed Serpent, a form of sky god, derived from the south, and introduced by the Patki and other southern clans, is prominent in sun ceremonies"

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/swpottery/rockartbiblio/Zuni3.htm

"A general overview of American Indian rock-art in the United States that includes some great photographs and illustrations. Grant examines the possible connections between the Toltec god of learning, Quetzalcoatl, and motifs found in the Southwest. Grant states that “North of Mexico, the symbol appears frequently as a feathered or horned rattlesnake. In Zuni mythology he was known as Kolowisi, the Great Horned Serpent, guardian of the springs and streams (Grant 1967:57).”

Grant describes the historical importance of Inscription Rock at El Morro National Monument where Spanish explorers and early settlers left signatures alongside the rock-art of Zuni ancestors, the Anasazi. The site contains the ruins of two Zuni villages, thus providing an important link to contemporary Zuni culture."

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/archaeology/si...ca/serpent.html

"Serpent mound, stretching a quarter mile long, is the largest serpent effigy (representation of an image) known to this day. There are also serpent effigies located in Scotland and Ontario that are very similar. The bottom of the mound is constructed of clay and rock and the soil covering the rock is four to five feet high. The mound was built on top of a remarkably unique cryptoexplosive structure that has caused the effigy to become misshapen through the years. The structure of the serpent is controversial. Squier and Davis were among the first to survey the mound. According to them the shape looked like a serpent with it's mouth open, about to devour an egg. Others have said that it represented the myth of the horned serpent in many Indian cultures. The ancestors of the Indians who lived around Lake Superior said that they took copper out of the horns of the serpent (Greenman, 1970).

Serpent Mound is located in Ohio, east of Cincinnati, off of highway 73. It is placed atop a ridge that over looks the Ohio Brush Creek. It is located in the Serpent Mound State Memorial and is accessible to the public.

It is believed that the area around Serpent Mound was inhabited between 3000 BP and 1300 BP.

Researchers have found some similarities between the previous Adena Indian habitats and Serpent Mound. Another indication that the Adena Indians built serpent mound was the Adena burial mounds that were located near Serpent Mound. The Adena Indians are famous for their earthwork (mounds). They lived throughout Ohio and parts of Kentucky and West Virginia. They were primarily hunters and gatherers, but evidence has shown some horticulture as well. They made ornaments from copper, tubular pipes and stone tablets (Woodward & McDonald, 1986) Serpent images, carved on stone tablets, have been found in the burial mounds of the Adena Indians (Webb & Snow, 1974).

The function of Serpent Mound is mysterious. It was thought,at one time, that it was sent from God and the head of the serpent was facing the Garden of Eden. It is probably a religious symbol. The serpent has been a symbol of many things, such as eternity, incarnation of a deity, and evil (Greenman, 1970). The Adena could have built Serpent Mound for their god or to ward off evil.

Excavations of Serpent Mound have found pottery fragments, ashes, burnt stone, and some animal bones (Greenman, 1970). This is evidence of occupation by the Adena Indians.

Fredric Putman was one of the first archaeologists to excavate Serpent Mound. After displaying his findings at the Chicago World Fair in 1893, the site became well known. Putman was concerned about the destruction of Serpent Mound. He became part owner of the Historical Society of Ohio. He helped preserve Serpent Mound so it can now be viewed by anyone. From the top of the Serpent Tower in Ohio, the whole serpent effigy can be seen (Woodward & McDonald, 1986).

Greenman, Emerson F. Serpent Mound. The Ohio Historical Society, 1970 Webb, William and Charles Snow. The Adena People. The University of Woodward, Susan and Jerry McDonald. Indian Mounds of the Middle Ohio Valley. The McDolnald & Woodward Publishing Company, 1986."

http://www.ohiohistory.org/places/serpent/

"The most famous of all such (effigy) mounds is the Great Serpent Mound in Adams County, 1,330 feet in length along its coils and averaging three feet in height.

--E.H. Roseboom & F. P. Weisenburger
A History of Ohio

Atop a plateau overlooking the Brush Creek Valley, Serpent Mound is the largest and finest serpent effigy in the United States. Nearly a quarter of a mile long, Serpent Mound apparently represents an uncoiling serpent.

In the late nineteenth-century Harvard University archaeologist Frederic Ward Putnam excavated Serpent Mound and attributed the creation of the effigy to the builders of the two nearby burial mounds, which he also excavated. We now refer to this culture as the Adena (800 BC-AD 100). A third burial mound at the park and a village site near the effigy's tail belong to the Fort Ancient culture (AD 1000-1550).

A more recent excavation of Serpent Mound revealed wood charcoal that could be radiocarbon dated. Test results show that the charcoal dates to the Fort Ancient culture. This new evidence of the serpent's creators links the effigy to the elliptical mound and the village rather than the conical burial mounds.

The head of the serpent is aligned to the summer solstice sunset and the coils also may point to the winter solstice sunrise and the equinox sunrise. Today, visitors may walk along a footpath surrounding the serpent and experience the mystery and power of this monumental effigy. A public park for more than a century, Serpent Mound attracts visitors from all over the world. The museum contains exhibits on the effigy mound and the geology of the surrounding area."

Carl Sagan = Carl Nagas. I would also like to add that the Reptilians operate out of a general group mind and separated themselves into seven different Reptilian species, each created to perform specific functions. Hindu caste system is a direct replica of the Reptilian hierarchy.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/etc/ddl/ddl05.htm

"AT A very early period northern India acquired a mixed population composed of Conquerors and more peaceful immigrants from the west and north, which became amalgamated with whatever remained in the previous inhabitants; and an antique form of Sanscrit spoken by the invaders became the general language. They appear, as far back as they can be traced, to have been an agricultural and cattle-breeding people, using horses, settled mainly in towns and villages, and considerably advanced towards civilization. Their religious ideas, at least within the millennium next preceding the beginning of the Christian era, as we learn from the Vedas, were expressed in a mythology of nature-gods related to the sun and sky and, especially to the weather as affecting grass and crops, with which was mixed a very ancient and fetishistic serpent-worship. In short these ancestral Hindoos much resembled in ideas the people of Elam and Chaldea with whom they were already in communication, but far exceeded them in their reverence of serpents--naturally, perhaps, as these are more numerous and dangerous in India than in Mesopotamia.

Their particular object in serpent-veneration was the deadly cobra, called naga; and every one of these hooded reptiles was regarded as the living incarnation or representative of a great and fearful company of mythological nagas. These were demi-gods in various serpentine forms, uncertain of temper and fearful in possibilities of harm, whose 'kings' lived in luxury in magnificent palaces in the depths of the sea or at the bottom of inland lakes. They were also said to inhabit an underworld (Patala Land), and were believed to control the clouds, produce thunderstorms, guard treasures, and do weird and marvellous things in general. Many feats were attributed to them which could be performed only by beings having human powers and faculties, whence they were said to assume human form from time to time; and stories are told in the writings of 'naga-people' appearing mysteriously and then escaping to the depths of the ocean--probably developed from incidents in which wild strangers had raided the coast and when discovered had fled over the horizon in their boats. The ruder tribes, which were most addicted to cobra-worship, and were despised by the Brahmanic class, were known as Naga men or simply Nagas. This cult persists in remote districts to this day, and is especially vigorous in the rough country of northern Burma and Siam, where temples of snake-worship are yet maintained. Doubtless it formerly prevailed beyond India all over the Malay Peninsula and among the unknown aborigines of China."

Winged Kneph



SEE FULL SIZED IMAGE AT LINK BELOW
http://altreligion.about.com/library/graph...wingedkneph.jpg

"The serpent was also the symbol of the Egyptian Kneph, who resembled the Sophia of the Gnostics, the Divine Wisdom. This animal, moreover, was the Agathodaemon of the religions of antiquity--the giver of happiness and good fortune. 15 It was in these capacities, rather than as having a phallic significance, that the serpent was associated with the sun-gods, the Chaldean Bel, the Grecian Apollo, and the Semitic Seth."

"AGATHODEMON
A good spirit worshiped by the Egyptians under the shape of a serpent with a human head."

A good spirit/demon that was worshipped by the ancient egyptians. He has the shape of the serpent with a human head. The flying serpents or dragons venerated by ancient peoples were also called Agathodemon, or good genies.

The Greeks also believe Agathodemons were good spirits, protectors of vineyards, and cornfields and they honored them by drinking a glass of vine after meals"

Snake Spirit Damballah


http://www.templex.org/Voodoo/damballah_adena.htm

"Damballah is the ancient Serpent Loa of Haitian Voudoo. It is a patron of springs and rivers and is depicted as a snake traveling in the path of the sun across the sky. Damballah is fed with an egg, in fact, Damballah is strongly associated with the World Egg of the Ophidian Mysteries. Deren (DIVINE HORSEMEN) calls Damballah "The major benevolent, the mighty protection, the lofty evidence of just and eternal good.

Damballah Adena A a sky or Stellar Serpent. The orifice of the mouth is directed toward the outer spaces. Damballah strikes toward the heavens. The stars themselves are the fodder for the gaping maw. The Stellar virtues are drunk and transmuted in the convoluted body of the mound ("I am the secret Serpent coiled about to spring: in my coiling there is joy. If I lift up my head, I and my Nuit are one." - Liber L). The tail forms a spiral and it is here that the elixir is received."

This post has been edited by PuPP on Dec 20 2004, 11:36 AM

still quoting from ickes book....

The first course of this platform contains some of the largest stone blocks ever transported anywhere in the world. Each of the first three blocks in this picture weighs an estimated 800 tons. They came from a local quarry where still sits the largest stone block ever hewn measuring 21.5 x 4.8 x 4.2 meters and weighing an estimated 1000 tons.

Greatest of the Baalbek Stones weighing close to 1200 tons

A Nasca trapezoid, looking like a runway, seems to invite the observation aircraft to land.

KrazyMatty, you beat me to the punch! I was getting ready to post a comparison between the Nazca and American Indian stone and wood carvings...totem poles and the thunderbird come to mind. For now, here is more on the Nagas, which are a subterranean species, of which there are many:

(Note: "...the semi-devine Khmers...Cambodia...does this remind us of the Khmer-rouge in Cambodia, who slew millions during the Viet-Nam war?)


http://www.piney.com/naga.html


BJ