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Posted by: cab Mar 13 2006, 11:34 AM

Message of His Kingdom
Revelation of Joys and Sorrows

To all who bear witness to this message, heed every word for it is the truth. The time has come for God's will to be done.....on earth as it is in heaven. Each and everyone's fate is sealed, with the mark of the beast or the seal of God (truth). God will intervene no more into the minds of man. This is the little scroll revealed, God's purpose revealed; and the delivery of the message gives birth to Christ ---> all the people seeking and demanding the truth and justice, everyone who has been delegated His power and authority. Now the time has come. There have been many tears for years knowing these things as the insight and knowledge was unfolded on us, for the many atrocities and crimes committed against God and His servants, and for those who sacrificed themselves who are being persecuted by those who claim to be the “Chosen Ones” and their beasts, their instruments, was also unfolded. Now it is our pour out His wrath onto these impostors, these anti-christs (anti-truth) and the beasts, through His power and authority He has delegated to His Christ. (1) Christ is all the peoples who seek the truth (Lamb), testify to the truth, demand the truth, and judge in the name of the truth and righteousness (for what is right), those who have been delegated His power and authority.

Although the people of United States (where their numbers and influence are strongest) have primary responsible for reining them in and bringing them to justice, all nations will participate since they reside the world over. -- “The number of the mounted troops was two hundred million. I heard their number.” --- virtually the entire voting age population of the US.
”Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion (R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N) occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.”

Do not be afraid….they have NO power or authority over us. The authority of the Christ comes from the highest authority, from our Father in Heaven. Their authority is self-appointed. Everything they have built over the centuries, the wealth they have accumulated, the power they have established, the poisoning of the masses, the destruction of the earth and mankind…we will undo in just DAYS…and start from anew. “And I will make everything from anew”… stone will left unturned….all will be revealed.

The Woman and the Dragon:
The woman from 2000 years ago delivered to the line of Christ, this is when the whole Truth was brought into the world in the flesh, when God manifested in Jesus His Christ. Now He manifests again in His Christ --- that is us. Christ is everyone who holds fast to the truth and testifies to the truth and seeks the truth, those who are clothed with His power and authority, those who demand the truth and justice for those who have committed crimes and atrocities against God and His servants. Anti-Christ is the name given to that entity who claim to the “Chosen Ones”, all who hate and reject the Christ, all who rebel against God from the beginning, those who (2) claim to be Jews but who are not true Jews; They are of the line that was disinherited 2000 years ago. They are the dragon, that ancient serpent called the devil or Satan who have led the whole world astray. The majority of them reside in the United States, but many dwell the world over, and the beasts are their instruments, fronts of evil to murder and torment and deceive. They are the “Jews” from 2000 years ago who tried to kill our brother as soon as he was born. These "Jews" reject the word of God -- the truth, and place themselves as God on the throne. They do only that which displeases our Father in Heaven. They denounce God and the law, and replaced the law with their own self-fulfilling laws. They are not of the line that authored the books of the Bible – if they were of this line they would live by the laws and writings of His servants and the prophets, and would be Christian Jews today. But these Jews are not Christian Jews -- they had no hand in writing the Word. In defiance of God they wrote their own self fulfilling laws and rituals as found in their books of Talmud and Kabala, those books that go back to an ancient place and time – to Babylon.


They are self-important and self-serving and claim "divine rights" to all that exists, though the truth is -- they are a parasite on mankind, a cancer to all the inhabitants of the earth. And it was these "Jews" who provoked the crucifixion of our brother; they killed Him because they wanted the Truth to die – the Word of God to die, in order to perpetuate their deceptions to the world. This is the Truth.
Today they are known as Illuminati, Elite, proponents of their “New World Order”, and other secret sects and secret societies….Priory of Sion, among others. These secret groups derive their works, rituals, symbolism, and traditions from the Talmud and Kabala. They work in secrecy, for the people will be repulsed at what they do. They do not worship the One and Only True God, our Father in Heaven; they worship that which is evil. Those with the mark of the beast worship them and their demons, idols, statues, and earthly things, material things. They are murderers, thieves, deceivers, and they destroy the earth and mankind.

They Proclaim To Be God: Remember what you have been told in generations past, for the time has come and the lawless ones have now been revealed. They exalt themselves over everything that is God or is worshiped, and they set themselves up in God’s temple proclaiming to be God, by claiming to be direct descendents of God through the blood --- the blood of Jesus Christ. The blood type found on the (11) Shroud of Turin, the suspected burial cloth of Jesus, is blood type AB, which exists in only 2-5% of some populations today. All the other major “blood types” (O,A,B) are mutations from the blood type AB, due to generations of poisoning of the blood. Through generations of poisoning they have altered certain blood properties of the vast majority of the population, in order to fulfill their quest for the “throne” --- they try to change the set times in their favor. This is how they proclaim to be God, due to their blood type matching the blood type found on the Shroud of Turin. Through one of their secret groups, Priory of Sion, they perpetuate the blasphemous story of the bloodline of Christ --- their claim is that Jesus bore children and these children became royalty in Europe and the bloodline now has many descendants. They also claim that everyone else who does not have blood type AB evolved from apes, and were not created by God, since the man-apes only have the other major “blood types” of O, A and B. This is to separate themselves and exalt themselves above everyone else, so that they proclaim themselves to be God, the designated ones to rule over the earth. We were ALL created with blood type AB; the poisons have mutated us into these other “blood types”.
(More about the poisons here:

Beast of the Land:
All those who are subservient/serve to the anti-Christ and their beasts have received the mark of the beast. The beast of the land are those organizations mainly within the United States (and the world over) which the anti-Christ has made their beasts, their instruments to torment and control the people and manipulate and lie to fulfill their agenda -- their new world order where they are their own self-appointed rulers to control the masses and own all the world's 'riches'. The anti-Christ today is the vast majority of the American Jews and Jews the world over, those who hate and reject the Christ, (exclude the 144,000 True Jews) and those who are subservient to them and carry out crimes for them -- the beasts -- are their instruments to murder and torment and antagonize and accuse those who hold fast to the truth -- those who are blessed and have the seal of God (truth) on their foreheads, for in their minds they have no evil thoughts and seek the truth and testify to the truth and no lies come from their mouth.

The Mark of the Beast: The ones who are anti-Christ and are subservient to them, all have the mark of the beast on their forehead for they worship the beast, or the mark of the beast on their hand for they have performed evil deeds in the name of the beast. (The mark on the forehead refers to anyone "worshiping" them, acknowledging them, holding them in high regard and acquiescing to them, anyone doing their bidding, anyone assisting them by commission or omission, etc.

The mark of the beast on the forehead refers to the mind – those who worship them and their idols.
The mark of the beast on the hand refers to performing evil deeds in the name of the beast.

They place themselves above the law, self-important, self-serving, are better than those who refuse the mark of the beast, make the laws and policies for all others to follow, they are above the law, they take from the poor and the helpless and all the people (via their instruments of Federal Reserve and their collection agency IRS: (3) (The Federal Reserve is Privately Owned), send others to make war for their agenda even though they themselves will never see a military battlefield (5) ("We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths."), and murder in the name of greed and control. They coerce those who come forth with the truth against the beast to take back the truth and lie. They accuse those who seek the truth of conspiring against the beast and being anti-semites. They try to discredit those who come forth with the truth and who seek the truth. Count each and every one of them for they are in vast numbers occupying all the key leadership positions within the United States government and highest positions in the Department of Defense, in financial and entertainment industries, and represent the legal/judicial system with attorneys who participate in deception and lies. They yield overwhelming influence and occupy all positions in both parties of the Congress/House, (5) (both parties: "We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides."), FDA, FBI, EPA, IRS, AMA, CIA, NSA, NTSB, the entire medical and alternative/natureapathic health care communities, judicial system, the administration, Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, National Security Adviser and council, and the list goes on. They use partisan politics to divide and conquer the voters, and to distract everyone so that no one sees their connection. They pretend to solve problems with talk and hearings to appease the people; in reality they have no intention of solving problems – problems that they created in the first place. They do nothing productive and nothing in the best interest of the people they allegedly represent.

Media & Entertainment Industries: they own and control the entertainment, music and movie-making industry, and the media.....count them. They have the power of the air under their control (the mainstream media -- (5) "for we shall own all the media"), the television networks and the press to manipulate and deceive the peoples......count them. They use entertainment and the media they own, to elevate themselves and those who accept the mark of the beast, to “star” and “celebrity” status, to exalt themselves over God and everyone else. Those who accept the mark of the beast for “fame” and “fortune” acknowledge the beast by rejecting God and worshiping that which is evil.

The False Prophet: they commit campaign and election abuses and frauds, and mislead the peoples with deceptive polls. This mass deception of the peoples and creating self-fulfilling prophecy is the essence of the false prophet and is a coordinated effort with all the organizations mentioned (and then some) and is a conspiracy against God and His servants.

Control and Greed: they possess vast “riches” and “wealth” and yet hunger for more material things and control over all the earth, for they are never satisfied and they are totally selfish -- they are parasites to mankind. They claim to support democracies but their true agenda is total control of the world's people and of all the global "riches" is what they want -- they claim "divine rights" to all that exists. No one is able to buy or sell unless they receive the mark of the beast; this is done by regulating imports and exports and banning those who do not have the mark of the beast. Only they decide what is produced here in the United States, so they can reap astounding profits from the hands of slave labor nations. They try to discredit those who have wealth and influence who do not have the mark of the beast, for the beast wants all the wealth and all the power. They work behind the scenes to manipulate the global economy by deceiving and manipulating the masses, and the stock markets.

They perform “great miracles”: they proclaim to perform "great miracles" by deceiving the peoples of the nation and the world by promising peace and democracy, better health care for all, social security, education, increasing jobs, cleaning up the environment, and so on; and they lie about the budget. They make more bureaucracy in the government -- this is so they can lie and steal and not be held accountable. They greatly expand the "intelligence gathering" apparatus in order to spy on and imprison those who oppose their new world order, though they claim this is done to protect us. Then there is the deceptive "war against drugs", in which they lie about trying to rid the nations of drugs -- they perpetuate the drug problem for their own personal gain/greed (jobs, money, control), at the expense of mankind.

Man’s laws: though they commit crimes of the very laws they enacted, through deception they are not held accountable because they have overwhelming influence in writing the law -- man's law that is, (not God's law).

Recent acts against God and mankind: they are the instrument on the land to use against those who refuse the mark of the beast; to torment, to blaspheme against God, to murder and injure the innocent. Their sins against God and his servants are piled high: TWA Flight 800 and many other airline "accidents"; Gulf War Syndrome; illegally taxing the people (7) (31 Questions/Answers About the IRS); collaboration of the FDA, AMA, EPA, ADA, CDC, USDA and other agencies/organizations to perpetuate deceptions and cover-ups on vaccines, toxins in foods, water additives, chemtrails, and poisoning the food chain, “mad cow”; establishing government control of health care and education and other programs to force everyone into using only their prescribed methods and products and in order to benefit and profit for themselves; mandating teaching their version of “history” and of “man’s sciences”; making a mockery of the law --God's law; creating total chaos in the government; using the media to provoke race wars; they deflect any criticism by using the "anti-semite" ploy; taking away basic constitutional rights via the "Patriot" Act (5) ("We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.") necessitated by staged Terror Events; Balkan wars; Gulf War; Somalia; Whitewater; Iran-Contra; (6) ongoing Iraq War; and these are just a small fraction of more recent crimes they have committed. They are responsible for the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr, John F. Kennedy (8) (JFK vs. Federal Reserve ), they worked behind the scenes for the Vietnam War and World War I &II (9) (51 Documents - Zionist Collaboration With The Nazis), Battle of Little Big Horn, Civil War, War of 1812, these things go on and on...... just follow the trail of greed and control and destruction and it will lead you right back to that same entity every time; just ignore the forked paths of deception along the way. They will be held accountable for each and every crime committed against mankind and the earth. It is time to destroy the destroyers.

Beast of the Sea:
The other beast gives mighty authority and status to the Beast of the Sea, the United States Navy, to go forth and torment the others and anyone who stands in their way and does not accept the mark of the beast. They are sly (like a leopard), walk with self-appointed authority (walk like a bear), and speak with great authority (mouth like a lion). The dragon and beast use the beast of the sea to do its evil bidding. The other beast uses the power of the air, the media, to show all the nations the awesome size and firepower of the beast of the sea so all will "worship" the image of the beast. They are in the key leadership positions at the Pentagon and national-level organizations/agencies. They work with and collaborate with the beast to perpetuate the "war on drugs" for jobs, control, and greed. They make all military organizations/units "joint", so the beast of the sea can inundate with higher ranks and numbers to take control, in order to subordinate all others to them. They appoint themselves to all the key leadership positions by discrediting others and using deceit and lies and manipulation. They steal joint funds to put into Navy channels. They torment others, (including their own who stand fast), and do not abide by the law as the others do; but apply the law to all others. Even their own who only will follow the truth, are accused of nonsensical "crimes" or are set-up, and suffer at their hands. They cause chaos and grief within organizations. They have been given full power from the other beast to ruin and execute and injure the others, for the others follow the truth. (This does not excuse the other services or individual responsibility and accountability. The US Navy has special mention here for the bigger picture only; they collaborate with the other beast.)

The Rider on the White Horse:
Christ (truth seekers) -- the ones who stand fast for the truth and righteousness (for what is right), and who testify against the beast, all who demand the truth and justice, all who have now been delegated His power and authority. Blessed are those who testify for this will be the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (truth). ("The court was seated, and the books were opened.") Blessed are those who judge for they judge in righteousness (for what is right) and this is the Bride of the Lamb. They are faithful and true and with justice they testify and judge and make war. Their eyes are blazing with the truth, and their heads have many crowns for Christ has many numbers and is from many nationalities. Only they know who they are, and now they will all come forth to testify to the truth and judge in the name of God -- they are Christ. Out of their mouth comes a sharp sword to bring down the beast, for the truth of their testimony will cut the beasts to shreds and bring them all to ruin. ("....the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever.") Their voice of command will strike down the nations and all will know their power and authority comes from God. They tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God almighty. The beast and their followers gather to make war against Christ but the beast is caught up with their lies and deception (false prophet) for all to see and bear witness to. This marks the start of the fall of Babylon, God will judge her for the way she treated His servants.

The Start of the Thousand Years: they will be ruled with an iron scepter.
After the rebellion and battle the anti-Christ will be ruled with a rod of iron; they will be put into that place they are predestined for, into the abyss (obscurity -- unseen and unheard) with their influence, wealth, status, positions, and authority stripped from keep them from deceiving the nations any more for a thousand years. Their wealth will be taken from them and given back to where it came -- the peoples whom it was stolen from and those who were wronged. Their positions and authority will be given to His Christ, those who have the truth (seal of God) on their foreheads, for they will rule in righteousness for that is God's will. All the wrongs will be righted. Blessed are those who testify to the truth and judge in the name of righteousness, they will be forever in the Book of Life. Blessed are the true believers and the true Church. Exclude those “churches” that extort and place themselves above others, and those religious organizations that have been infiltrated to propagate false doctrine. Exclude those religions and cults, and secret sects and societies who worship demons, idols, statues and earthly things. Blessed are those peoples and nations who seek and demand the truth and justice -- they are servants of God.

The Lamb and the 144,000:
The 144,000 TRUE Jews (12,000 from each tribe) who have the name of the lamb and the father on their foreheads, (they have no evil thoughts and seek the truth and testify to the truth); they seek and follow the truth (the lamb wherever he goes). No lies/deception comes from their mouths......they are blameless.

The Harvest of the Earth:
The time has come and everyone's fate is sealed; with the seal of God (the truth) for those who stand fast for the truth and testify to the truth and seek and demand the truth – those who worship our Father in Heaven both in Spirit and in Truth; or the mark of the beast for those who collaborated with the beast, willfully participated in evil deeds in the name of the beast, and "worship" the beast. The sealing of fates signals the end of God's intervention into the minds of man. Those with the mark of the beast will suffer his wrath.

Seven Angels With Seven Plagues:
Preparation for the pouring of God's wrath; after which the testimony to the truth against the anti-Christ is to begin. This is the testimony of Christ versus anti-Christ (truth versus anti-truth), and is called the battle of Armageddon.

Seven Bowls of God's Wrath:
Torment comes to those who have the mark of the beast and "worship" its image. Still they refuse to repent for their crimes and glorify God. They will be caught red-handed with the crimes they have committed; they will make futile attempts to lie in order to cover up their crimes and will blame everyone else, and still they refuse to repent for what they have done. They try in vain to focus on others "sins" to direct attention from what they have done, and still do not repent. They go out to get allies to stand by their lies, this is in preparation for the battle of that day written about long ago. They will gather those high-ranking and influential and powerful (kings) to the battle of Armageddon. The throne (location) of where the beast sits is called Babylon; they know their time is short and they curse God and still do not repent.


The Woman on the Beast & The Fall of Babylon:
The woman is Babylon (Washington, DC -- City of Power) on which the beast dwells – they control the entire seat of the government of the US, the most ‘powerful’ nation on the earth, and it is in the US where their numbers and influence are strongest. The ten kings are the ten nations who for a time have received authority as kings along with the beast, and their purpose is to give their power and authority to the beast --- this is the ten nations aligned with the U.S. against those nations on the list of conquest (10) (11 nations weigh new rules for rogue states ). The beast makes war against the Lamb -- the truth. The terrorist and WMD's "nations of concern" crisis is the deception of the anti-Christ and the beast, to further their agenda (6) (Lies for conquest). The beast makes war against these nations for control and greed and destruction (5) ("When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin."). They are enraged --- they know their time has run out --- so they vent their rage on all the inhabitants of the earth. They try to change the set times and deceive the peoples into thinking that asteroids and nuclear war are signals of the end times. The beast and the ten nations will hate the woman and bring her to ruin, for God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule until God's words are fulfilled.

The New Jerusalem:
A new heaven and a new earth, and now the dwelling of God is with men and he will live with them. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death. The Lord God and the Lamb (Truth) are the temple of the city. The glory of God gives it light and the Lamb is its lamp. The glory and honor of all nations will be brought into it. Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life.

Never need or want again for this is past,
Live by searching for Truth and Knowledge,
Serve others, not ourselves, for this is serving God,
Praise, honor and glory be to God forever and ever. Amen.


Warning To Those Trying To Change The Set Times

Posted by: Mark Mar 13 2006, 04:33 PM
Intriguing post, thanks cab.

Christ is all the peoples who seek the truth (Lamb), testify to the truth, demand the truth, and judge in the name of the truth and righteousness

The self proclaimed Chosen Ones need to decide who they serve.

Posted by: Mark Mar 13 2006, 04:40 PM
"Let the Jews, who claim to be the chosen race, prove their title by choosing the way of non-violence for vindicating their position on earth."
~ Mahatma Gandhi, Nov. 26, 1938

"Instead of agitating for war, the Jewish groups in this country should be opposing it in every possible way, for they will be among the first to feel its consequences. The greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government."
~ Charles Lindbergh Sept. 11, 1941

65 years later, Charles' warning is very relevant today.

When you wonder why things are so messed up, environmental destruction, poisons in our air, food and water, wars, suffering, famine, exploitation, slavery, sex slaves, porn, drugs, violent crime, immoral television shows and movies and you seek to find out who is behind most of it, you come to the conclusion that the world is ruled by inhuman beings.

uggliozzi is right in regards to Capitalism and Satan, but I think he should include usury in his quote.

Posted by: DarmonVing Oct 23 2010, 09:42 AM
The mark of the beast on the forehead refers to the mind – those who worship them and their idols.
The mark of the beast on the hand refers to performing evil deeds in the name of the beast.

jawdropper2.gif Incredible interpretation. I never thought about it that way, but it does make sense.

666 has virtually been ignored by the Catholic Church, merely brushing it off as a numerical calculation representing emporer Nero or something like that. However, if we add up the somewhat accepted list of Popes it is said that it adds up to 666.

It goes something like this:

1. Pius 78
2. Leo +91
3. Gregory +136
4. Benedict +105
5. John +231
6. Paul +21
7. John Paul +3
8. New Name +1

Wow it just hit me!!! bricks.gif

A metaphoric prediction of what Mark would write in his gospel perhaps?

Mark 9:43-47

If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— where ‘ Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’

And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame, rather than having two feet, to be cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— where‘ Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’

And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire— where ‘ Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’

Matthew says something similar...

Matthew 5:29-30
If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

I was asked something about the above statement as to whether it was a literal or metaphoric response to the issue of adultery. Was Jesus literally saying cut off whatever it was that caused you to sin such as a body part? No! He was referring to the body of Christ and one of my colleagues actually referred to Judas as a member of the body of Christ that was not only cut off, but one of His members that perished (or would soon perish). It was either lose Judas or risk his entire body of followers to be cast into hell. So in a sense 666 could refer to the last Pope or "antipope" or even the devil himself who will cause people to sin and that he too should be cut off.

1 Corinthians 12:12-27

For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. For in fact the body is not one member but many.

If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased.  And if they were all one member, where would the body be?

But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.”  No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary.  And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it,  that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another.  And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.

Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.

Now I considered that each apostle was an original part of the body of Christ with Judas either being a hand or an eye and possibly even a foot or a heel.

Psalm 41:9
Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, Who ate my bread, Has lifted up his heel against me.

Proverbs 6:12-19
The Wicked Man
A worthless person, a wicked man, Walks with a perverse mouth; He winks with his eyes, He shuffles his feet, He points with his fingers; Perversity is in his heart, He devises evil continually, He sows discord.
Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly; Suddenly he shall be broken without remedy.

These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood,  A heart that devises wicked plans,  Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.

What of the above things did Judas not do?

Obviously the son of perdition, the man of sin, was as well hidden to the others as he is today. When Jesus sent out the twelve to do the miracles, don't you think they would have suspected Judas if he hadn't done any? This is why the son of perdition has to be revealed in our day. He does the religious works, and for a time, he can hide his lack of fruit. Tribulation is necessary to reveal and separate him from the body. He is a cancer in the body of Christ.

In some translations of the bible we find the word sop in John 13 beginning at number 26. It would be John 13:26-30.

Jesus therefore answereth, He it is, for whom I shall dip the sop, and give it him. So when he had dipped the sop, he taketh and giveth it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot. And after the sop, then entered Satan into him. Jesus therefore saith unto him, What thou doest, do quickly. Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him.  For some thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus said unto him, Buy what things we have need of for the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor. He then having received the sop went out straightway: and it was night.

Sop would seem to indicate that Judas was the Son Of Perdition.

Also Judas means in Hebrew something like "to use the hand" so Jesus in a sense cut off his hand.

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It's really an interesting read concerning Judas as being part of a much larger "corperate" entity that still exists today.

Posted by: DarmonVing Oct 23 2010, 10:24 AM
I just noticed this.

John 6:66
From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.

John 6:63-68
The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.

Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?”  But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

It kinds of describes today's mentality. Those who hold the bible in one hand and do sinful things with the other. They knew and accepted some of his teachings, but not the others... They look proud... They lie with their tongues... They shed innocent blood with their hands... They run swift to evil... They act as false witnesses to sow discord among us... Wow it almost sounds like today's news media and police. Interesting.

Posted by: DarmonVing Oct 23 2010, 10:38 AM
This is even more interesting.

Matthew 27:6-66 begins with " But the chief priests took the silver pieces and said, "It is not lawful to put them into the treasury, because they are the price of blood" and ends with "So they went and made the tomb secure, sealing the stone and setting the guard".

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