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Posted: Apr 13 2005, 07:06 PM
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I run a desktop suse 9.2, a laptop (work) with suse9.2 and XP and an old laptop (266) with slackware 10.1 (and still in the process of setting it up).

Right now, trouble with getting a usb flash memory getting to work. It's a usb2.0 stick. USB1.1 works fine. Also trying to understand the new "hotplug" feature, which makes it as simple as M$.... they are gonna loose in the long term bouncefire.gif bouncefire.gif bouncefire.gif

I am not actually asking anything, just let you know, I'm in the game as well.

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Posted: Apr 14 2005, 01:06 AM
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Hi redniut,

I thought I had a funny feeling there more of us around here somewhere smileNew4.gif

Hmm, another SuSE user...this is most certainly on my list of distros to check out. I'm really liking Mandrake, but it's the only one I've tried so far. I'm waiting until I can afford to buy a nice big hard drive, then I plan to go on a serious distro-testing rampage crazy.gif

Or I might lose my patience and scap this installation to make room. I was originally holding off until I had a larger drive to try Linux in the first place, downloaded and fired up Knoppix. Booting back in to Windows was so horribly depressing, I had to format my drive before I could feel better.

A quick question before it slips my mind again, when I installed Mandrake, I had to access the BIOS and change the "Plug and play aware OS" setting to "No". I saw no reference to this step in the Gentoo manual, and haven't come across it flipping through the documentation of other distros. I can't imagine that this is something completely unique to Mandrake. Should it always be set to "No" on any flavor of Linux? Should I set it to Yes if the distro's documentation doesn't mention it? I'm almost curious to see how Windows would react to this setting, although given its rudeness, I'd imagine that it would override it and continue to try and handle hardware on itself and possibly create some conflicts along the way.

Worst case scenario is that I play with it and some things aren't detected, so this is more a curiosity than anything.

Good luck with that USB! I'm sure I'll run into problems with that somewhere down the road as I try different distros, but for the meantime I haven't had any problems with it, so don't know how to fix it.

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Unintentional or not, I will celebrate! While for the most part I don't much care about Micro$oft anymore, they are hurting technology and everyone who uses it. This must stop.

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Posted: Apr 14 2005, 07:11 AM
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Good morning, you brave souls who have switched to Linux! I was rummaging around in My Favorites (300 of 'em) yesterday and came across this website:

Good Linux website:

http://www.netbrain.com/~brain/

Hope it helps some.

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Posted: Apr 14 2005, 05:29 PM
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Nightshade,

Glad to see you start this thread. Somehow, I knew you would. winkNEW.gif

Hi bj1, I bookmarked the website you gave, looks like some good info, I'll have to check it out later.

redniut, nice to know that your a fellow Linux user. I ran Slackware before and really liked it. Kind of a cross between Gentoo and the more user friendly distros. I'm just waiting for them to release a version with x86_64 support.

Nightshade, I always set "plug and play" to no, and let the bios find hardware, and assign irq's.
That was pretty much standard practice with Windows, since most of the time Windows couldn't even recognize your hardware. I remember when the term "plug and play" was referred to as "plug and pray"

It isn't near as bad now, as it used to be.

Since Linux is also an OS, it's possible to experience the same problems. At least with Linux, I'm not paying for problems.

Here is a good read on this issue about "plug and play"

http://www.linux.com/howtos/Plug-and-Play-HOWTO-7.shtml

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Posted: Apr 14 2005, 06:03 PM
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Nightshade,
You do not have to clear your harddisk for trying distros. These days, many distros come with "live-cd's" which you can download, burn and try on your pc. Nothing is changed on your harddisk.
You boot from cd and an image is loaded into ram. From there it emulates if it where on the harddisk. Ofcourse it is slow, but it is a great way of checking if you like the looks, which hardware is detected and trying new or updated applications. For suse9.2, you can download from www.novell.com. You can choose between gnome and kde images.

There is also another way and saves download time: check the pc-magazines, a lot of them come with evalution cd's of linux distros (and work in the same way as described above). Then you also have a lot of extra info from the magazine about the distro.

Plug and play can be determined by bios and by linux. It is difficult to say what to use and you should try if running into trouble. I've never blocked pnp in the bios for a linux distro. I am sure that linux can handle it perfectly, but it requires a more dedicated setup (because if you let linux try and guess irq's and stuff, it might be needing fine-tuning.
It all depends on how deep you want to dive into the readme's & howto's etc.

BJ1,
thanx for the link, interesting!

Hi Danny,
Yep, slackware is simplicity and secure.That's why I love it! I have to get an old laptop up and running (266mhz with 96MB ram) slackware is my choice. needs a lot of tuning, but once there, it will stay on there forever (with enlightenment as windowmanager!).



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Posted: Apr 14 2005, 10:28 PM
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I had too, or else PuPP would've beaten us all viciously with wet noodles for off-topic posting!

Thanks for the link BJ, lots of good stuff on there smileNew4.gif

Plug 'n Pray...well this would explain why Windows always gave me so much grief with my hardware (or maybe it was insulted by all of the el-cheapo components?). I just loved seeing those little yellow question marks of doom in my device manager and mucking around with IRQs. It works much better with my BIOS handling it, hardware works now that I'd long since accepted as crippled on my system. It's also nice not to have hundreds of megabytes of crap for something as simple as a printer driver (besides bloated, this was also one of the "crippled" devices. Printing worked alright, but it has a scan function which my system adamently refused to acknowledge. It works beautifully now!).

No more plug n play for this computer. I'll be sure to give that page a read as well.

Now that you mention it, LiveCDs really would make a lot more sense than obliterating installations...
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Sometimes, I've really got a knack for unecessarily doing things the hard way. If computers would sprout legs, I'm sure the first thing mine would do is run away from me never to be seen again after everything I've put it through.




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Sometimes, I've really got a knack for unecessarily doing things the hard way. If computers would sprout legs, I'm sure the first thing mine would do is run away from me never to be seen again after everything I've put it through.


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That pretty much sums it up for me too.

Hope my computer's not reading this, might give it ideas.

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Posted: Apr 15 2005, 02:52 PM
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Glad to see you start this thread. Somehow, I knew you would.


I had too, or else PuPP would've beaten us all viciously with wet noodles for off-topic posting!

Let the floggings begin!

I'm also one who tries and perform all of my own tweaking and pc maintenance. Deleting stuff that I thought wasn't needed.

Back when I first got my pc I deleted Explorer.exe cause I thought it shouldn't be in my start up menu.

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That's more or less what Laz did to this one we first got it....it had been my grandfathers and it was full of porn and spyware. I didn't have a disc for the OS so I was trying to surgically remove all the junk, but didn't really know what I was doing, so I wasn't making much headway. After about a day of mucking around, he shoos me away from it and sits down.

"See all this junk? You've been on it all day and this crap is still in here? You don't know what you're doing, let me on there/"

A few minutes later...

"Hey, I can drag stuff to the trash just like on my mac!"

"This doesn't look right...."

"That shouldn't be in there."

"Look at all this crap..."

*reboot*

"Oh no..."

Whoops, now Windows won't boot! Tuns out he trashed a good portion of the system files. He learned his lesson, now I fix the computers smileNew4.gif

Of course, I've trashed my fair share of installations as well!




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Posted: Apr 17 2005, 01:59 PM
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I've just discovered Fluxbox smileNew4.gif

Light, fast, and about the furthest thing from Windows I've seen. Now I just have to learn how to use it properly! I'm playing around with different file-managers because it seems a little counter-productive to use a lightweight WM with Konqueror as the file-manager. So far I've only tried ROX-filer and don't like it much but am keeping it around because from what I've heard, everyone hates ROX at first but grows to love it. I'm also going to give emelfFM2 a shot.

Enlightenment is also a definite must on my to do list!




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Posted: Apr 19 2005, 03:52 PM
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I'm about to start installing Gentoo, and I'm not sure how long it'll take to compile on this old box...so if I disappear for a few days, I haven't been abducted by space iguanas, I'm just building a Frankenstein bartborg.gif

I don't trust my XP box to come here on it, especially knowing that my system has previously been used to attack the forum.




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Posted: Apr 20 2005, 08:20 AM
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"This doesn't look right...."

"That shouldn't be in there."

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Dang, that sounds like me! roflsmiley.gif

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Posted: Apr 20 2005, 11:07 AM
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I wanted to post here yesterday, then opted not to.

Nightshade, I love reading about your frustrations pullhair.gif and triumphs cheer.gif in overcoming computer glitches. You give humorous expression to things we've all experienced.

Sometimes.....if it would solve anything..... beatmonitor.gif



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That's why I've been away. I starting working on a Gentoo system a few days ago, and on a spare hard drive that I had laying around, which is a lot slower than my main one.

I wanted to try Gentoo out before I used it as my main Linux system.

It has been quite an experience, a lot of work, but worth it.

Nightshade,

Looking forward to hearing about your install.

The biggest problem that I had, was that my ethernet card just would not work with the 2004.3 version. Even though it was recognized, and I loaded the correct module , it still would not work.

I tried everything suggested in the Linux forums, but nothing worked. I almost thought about just giving up.

Then I decided to try the newer 2005 build. Everything was recognized, and working.

It's been a smooth install so far.

I'm running right now with only installing the X window server, and Mozilla-Firefox, after the base install(stage3).

If anyone reading this thinks that Linux sounds too complicated, it's only because I'm trying distros that let you buld systems the way you want them too be. Something you can't do with Windows.

There are distros of Linux that are very user friendly.

Both Mandrake, and Suse, are two of the best that I've used. They usually are much better at finding and setting up your hardware than Windows.

Plus the security of using Linux on the internet.


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