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Posted: Apr 6 2006, 07:04 PM
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'Gospel of Judas' gives new view of Jesus' betrayer
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Judas Iscariot, vilified as Christ's betrayer, acted at Jesus' request in turning him over to the authorities who crucified him, according to a 1,700-year-old copy of the "Gospel of Judas" unveiled on Thursday.

In an alternative view to traditional Christian teaching, the Judas gospel shows the reviled disciple as the only one in Jesus' inner circle who understood his desire to shed his earthly body.

"He's the good guy in this portrayal," said Bart Ehrman, a religion professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. "He's the only apostle who understands Jesus."

The Judas gospel's introduction says it is "the secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot." Later, it quotes Jesus as saying to Judas, "You will exceed all of them (the other disciples) for you will sacrifice the man who clothes me."

"The idea in this gospel is that Jesus, like all of us, is a trapped spirit, who is trapped in a material body," Ehrman said. "And salvation comes when we escape the materiality of our existence, and Judas is the one who makes it possible for him to escape by allowing for his body to be killed."

Rev. Donald Senior, president of Catholic Theological Union in Chicago, said the document revealed the diversity and vitality in early Christianity.

"The question becomes ... does this tradition, this alternative story, if you like, in the gospel of Judas have a claim that in some sense is equal to the rival claim of the gospel tradition?" Senior said.

It is not known who wrote the Judas gospel. The copy unveiled on Thursday is of a document mentioned critically in the year 180 in a treatise called "Against Heresies," written by Irenaeus, bishop of Lyon in what was then Roman Gaul. It spoke out against those whose views about Jesus differed from those of the mainstream Christian Church.

In the Bible's New Testament, Judas is portrayed as the quintessential traitor, accepting 30 pieces of silver to betray Jesus by identifying him to Roman soldiers. The biblical Gospel of St. Matthew says Judas quickly regretted his treachery, returned the silver and hanged himself.

The New Testament contains four Gospels -- of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John -- but many more so-called apocryphal gospels were written in the first centuries after Christ's death, attributed to such disciples as Thomas and Philip and to his female follower Mary Magdalene.

HIDDEN IN EGYPTIAN DESERT

Ehrman, Senior and other experts on Christianity spoke at a briefing at the National Geographic Society, which unveiled a translation of the Judas gospel and which helped authenticate, preserve and translate the document.

The leather-bound copy of the gospel was written in Coptic script on both sides of 13 sheets of papyrus, and spent most of the past 1,700 years hidden in a cavern in the Egyptian desert, said Terry Garcia of the National Geographic Society.

This document was probably copied from the original Greek manuscript around the year 300, Garcia said. Discovered in the 1970s near Minya, Egypt, the volume -- including the gospel and other documents -- was sold to an Egyptian antiquities dealer in 1978.

The dealer offered it for sale without success, and eventually locked it in a bank safe deposit box in Hicksville, New York, for 16 years, which hastened its decay. In images displayed at the briefing, the papyrus looked like brown, dry autumn leaves.

Garcia said it had crumbled into more than 1,000 pieces.

In 2001, the Maecenas Foundation for Ancient Art in Switzerland began an effort to transcribe and translate the volume from the Coptic. In the next years, scientific tests -- including radiocarbon dating, ink analysis and multispectral imaging -- showed the document was copied down around 300[AD].

The Judas gospel is being published in book form by National Geographic and pages from the papyrus manuscript will be on display at the society's museum in Washington starting on Friday. The manuscript will ultimately be housed at the Coptic Museum in Cairo.

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Hi Betty, I recently heard about this newly "announced" gospel of Judas.

Thanks for posting it!

What... it only took 30 years to come to public attention?

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I'd like to see what those gospels have to say.
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Some 1,700 years after it was hidden from the Imperial Romans who were brutally creating their own government-sanctioned version of Christianity, the Gospel of Judas was finally released to the world today ... or was it?

With great fanfare in Washington, the National Geographic Society revealed ancient pages and intriguing passages from the Coptic codex that dates back to the early days of Christianity -- a leather-bound collection of several early Church texts including the long-rumored Gospel of Judas.

But for reasons undisclosed, only 4 of the gospel's 13 double-sided pages will go on display. And the translated version made available to the New York Times (PDF) is "from" the Judas gospel and apparently not the whole text.

Yet the National Geographic Society claims almost all of the badly damaged manuscript was successfully put back together, and last month said it would release the "full contents of the manuscript."

"Incredibly, the team was able to recreate some 90 to 95 percent of the manuscript and produce a nearly complete translation. Some sections may be forever lost, due to holes in the original papyruses, but scholars hope to fill them in as they finish their herculean task -- an additional half page recently surfaced in New York City."

In hundreds of news stories and broadcasts about the reconstruction and translation of the 1,700-year-old papyrus manuscript and its long suspicious purgatory in a moldy New York bank vault, there is not a single mention of the contents of the other 21 pages of the Judas document.

(The National Geographic Society did not respond to questions from SPLOID, but the society has announced it is selling a book with the complete text.)

Even more intriguing, researchers haven't even hinted at the contents of another mystery book that is part of the Coptic codex.

National Geographic historians have titled the enigma "Book of Allogenes," which may or may not be related to the Allogenes text found at Nag Hammadi. (That 1945 discovery is incredibly bizarre -- "And empowering the individuals, she is a Triple-Male," is a typical passage.)

The other texts found in the codex are reportedly copies of an unspecified epistle attributed to Peter and the First Apocalypse of James -- an apparently coded conversation with a ghostly Rabbi Jesus about battling archons, first found in the Nag Hammadi codices back in 1945.

But what of the handful of fragments National Geographic has revealed from the Gospel of Judas?

It was widely reported months before today's unveiling that the ancient gospel would redeem Judas Iscariot -- proving he was less of a sell-out than a divine actor who was entrusted with a crucial part of the conspiracy: the arrest of Jesus in Jerusalem during the Passover week rituals.

But the Judas gospel is stripped of some of the most melodramatic moments from today's New Testament gospels. Instead of the highly charged scene of Jesus weeping in the city gardens of Gethsemane and then seized by a patrol of imperial soldiers in full Roman regalia, Jesus is simply arrested by local Jewish authorities at the Temple of Solomon. And the iconic 30 pieces of silver is reduced to "some money."

"Their high priests murmured because [he] had gone into the guest room for his prayer. But some scribes were there watching carefully in order to arrest him during the prayer, for they were afraid of the people, since he was regarded by all as a prophet. They approached Judas and said to him, 'What are you doing here? You are Jesus' disciple.' Judas answered them as they wished. And he received some money, and handed him over to them."

The translated passages made public today also show a Jesus who considers Judas to be so important that the alleged traitor will one day rule over the whole Christian world.

"You will be cursed by generations," Jesus reportedly says, "and you will come to rule over them."

That alone -- the idea of Judas ruling over humanity -- should be enough to rock the frail foundation of modern Christianity. But it is the final passage released by National Geographic -- page 56 of the 66-page codex -- that suggests today's Christians can hardly begin to comprehend the staggering secret mysteries of the prophet Jesus:

"Look, you have been told everything," Jesus says to Judas after whispering those secrets to his friend and most loyal follower.

"Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star. Judas lifted his eyes and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it .... "

The Gospel of Judas exhibition opens Friday in Washington at the National Geographic Museum in Washington, D.C.

A television documentary will be broadcast on the National Geographic Channel on Sunday night.

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Things that make you go..hmmmm!!!! what the hell are we supposed to believe?
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Evidence That 'Gospel of Judas" is Illuminati Psyops Linked to Oil-For-Food Players
This writer happened to walk down the sidewalk in Tucson , Arizona yesterday and noted yet another astonishing 'Coincidence" when looking at the front page of virtually all of the day's (April 7, 2006) newspapers. All had the same horrifying tale to tell : Judas was a Hero. He was a "traitor" not a traitor. The Biblical story was a lie. This was "verified" scientifically at our very own University of Arizona Mass Spectometry Laboratory....you know... the one that said the Shroud of Turin was a fake.Thus, The Shroud of Turin is a fake but Judas is a hero that assisted Jesus in committing suicide by setting the romans on him at his request.Is that not the bottom line of the story? This writer smelled the immediate scent of illuminati droppings and decided to investigate further, what was discovered was fascinating and PROVES the media is controlled not by Liberals but by the Illuminati DIRECTLY.

THE EVIDENCE:

1. New York Times - "In Ancient Document, Judas , Minus the Betrayal" by John Noble Wilford and Laurie Goodstein.

2. USA Today - "Long Lost Gospel of Judas casts 'traitor' in new light" by Dan Vergano and Cathy Lynn Grossman.

3. Tucson Citizen - "GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JUDAS - U of A verifies controversial text"

4. Arizona Republic (based in Phoenix , Arizona) "JUDAS A HERO? Text authenticated by UA scientists says Jesus asked apostle to hand him to Romans" M. Cronin

You, esteemed reader may have read similar bilge in your own hometown paper. It would be surprising if you did not. Here is Why:

A) New York Times largest shareholder is PCM or Private Capital Management. www.msn.com / insert letters "NYT" in the slot for the name/symbol of the stock.

Then go to "detailed quote" / then go to "Ownership" / Then click on "Institutional Ownership" and there you will see it.

Who is PCM? They are wholly owned by Legg Mason.

B) www.leggmason.com/wealthmanagement/subsidiaries/pcm.asp
Legg Mason is controlled by Alliance Capital Management aka Alliance Bernstein. They are in fact...the only stock "insiders". Please Follow same process with www.msn.com They Symbol to insert is LM.

C) Who owns Alliance? They are 53% owned by "French Insurance Giant" AXA.
www.axa-financial.com/pressroom/2001/020201alliance.html .

D) AXA and the Oily Mess - www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread45830/pg and www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover120805h.htm / www.hannity.com/forum/printthread.php?t=4317 / . At Ground Zero of Oil/UN issue.

E) USA Today is owned by Gannett Corporation, the largest news chain in the USA. (see very bottom) or google USA Today Gannett.

F) Who owns Gannett? PCM. Yes, the same PCM that owns the New York Times and Gannett is the largest print chain in the USA which brings us the USA Today we all get if we stay in a hotel overnight. www.poynter.org/content_view.asp?id=91541 .

THEY ALSO HAVE MAJOR STAKES IN Tribune, Journal Register, Lee Enterprises and others...the previous link notes "What are the implications...." of Having foreign oil for france linked interests owning our print media.

G) Tucson Citizen is Gannett. www.gannett.com/map/ataglance/tucso.htm .

H) Arizona Republic is owned by Phoenix Newspapers, Inc. which is owned by Gannett. www.ananews.com/History/Newspapers/AzRepublic.htm

I) *** Do the same with your local paper with a 'judas' story. See who owns it.

J) Saddam Hussein benefitted and stayed in power due to the Oil For Food program giving him illegal funds. His insurgents kill our troops and his bankers own our papers.

K) Saddam had a bank account under the pseudonym Satan. Some say it was his real name. (scroll half way)- www.harpers.org/SaddamHussein.html .


L) Saddam Hussein has been extensively linked to the occult. www.paranormal.about.com/cs/humanenigmas/a/aa04103.htm

M) Some believe he was the "third antichrist" noted by Nostradamus. www.nostradamusprophecy.org/iraq-in-prophecy.html .

His Corporate Allies now tell us that Judas is a Hero, only a 'traitor' in quotes , assists Jesus in committing suicide and has a gospel.

Thus the Bible story is a lie and Jesus must not have said "better that man never have been born" and if Judas hanged himself he was only following Jesus' example.

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? HOW CAN WE HAVE ALLOWED OUR PAPERS TO BE OWNED BY SATANISTS SO OPENLY?

Now, This so-called "Gospel" is going to be published and sold by a major book chain. HarperSanFrancisco www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11655998/ . This is a subsidiary of publishing giant HarperCollins and HC describes this book as a previously lost gospel AS IF THIS WAS AN UNADULTERATED FACT RATHER THAN A HYPOTHESIS IF NOT AN OUTRIGHT FRAUD. www.harpercollins.com "The Secrets of Judas".

Who owns HarperCollins ? Newscorp. the company controlled by Rupert Murdoch and the parent of pro-war Fox News. HC is also the publisher of the so-called satanic

bible and the Necronomicon and FoxNews has links to satanic 'deep black" psyops personnel . www.red-ice.net/specialreports/2005/09sep/satanicusmilitary.html .

Further, One cannot trust opinion polls anymore. The Oil For Food players are buying up the Opinion Poll Tracking firms.

USA Today runs an IPSOS poll saying american people have a pro immigrant position which favors President Bush. IS this true? www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-02-immigration-poll_x.htm .

IPSOS is very close to French President Chirac who is closely linked to the Oil / United Nations / Iraq scandal. (scroll down 25%) www.no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2005_12_04_no-pasaran_archive.html . IPSOS is a french company but beyond that it is difficult to detect who is the power behind the scene.


IPSOS is aggressive in buying other polling outfits. FORTY SO FAR. www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/business.cfm?id=2067682005 .

Economic pundits and stock market analysts simply cannot figure out why PCM is buying into all of the newspapers. The field is not that profitable. But of course, the purpose is not profit , it is to control how the American public views reality. A form of mind control. www.philly.com/mld/philly/business/special_packages/kri/13066075.htm

To boil this down to a nutshell - Right before Easter , the average person in the USA walks down the street or buys a paper from a vendor and sees that the front page

news in major newspapers like the New York Times, USA Today and their home paper say that it is verified that Judas wrote a gospel, he is a hero, not a traitor and

only did what Jesus asked him to do - which in essence was assisted suicide, which the U.S. Supreme Court recently said was legal based on an Oregon case.

Not only that but this document is scientifically validated according to the story. NEVER DOES THE PUBLIC KNOW THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PRESS THAT IS

BEHIND THIS ILLUMINATI MINDWAR OPERATION. Never does the public question who is behind it. It must be true since all of these disparate "reputable" news sources

say it is. The populace is so controlled they do not even smell a rat when this story hits right before the celebration of the passion of the Christ. No one ever asks how can

it just happen that all of these 'separate' papers run the same story on the same day, never questioning the authenticity or motives of those involved in this bogus gospel.

This happens to coincide with the Da Vinci Code author winning the plagiarism lawsuit against him and thus seeming to appear honest and the opening of the movie.

The movie is made by Columbia Pictures which is owned by

Sony, the japanese conglomerate. www.sonypictures.com/movies/thedavincicode/ .

SONY has been heavily involved in research into the occult. www.parascope.com/en/articles/sonyESP.htm . www.mindpower.com/DreamFactory.htm .

The Judas gospel is stored in Basel, Switzerland at the Maecenas Institute. www.i-newswire.com/pr24890.html . Little is known of this organization.

CONCLUSION: The Gospel of Judas is a satanic black op designed to chip away at the belief in Jesus Christ as the Savior of mankind from Evil. Even if you do not

believe in God, it is surely strange that all of these papers are owned by the same entities and run this odd story on the same day. At a minimum it shows a level of control and coordination of the media rarely seen openly conducted and is indicative that the free press is an illuminati myth.

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Posted: Apr 11 2006, 11:18 AM
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Hi Betty, the message I am getting here is this...

Freely give up your material possessions and sacrifice your Earthly flesh and bone body to those who will betray you to your enemies.... ya know... cause Jesus did.
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Who rules the World?
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They are doing a good job right?

We have these things right?

Clean air, clean energy and clean water.

Safe medications.

Safe, household products.

Healthy, wholesome and nutritional foods.

There is so much wrong with the world today and the reason seems to be due to the fact that the cabal controls almost every aspect of our lives.




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"I know of thy works and tribulations and poverty, (but thou art rich), And I know the blasphemy of them which say they are jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan"
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"Belief in the Priesthood of the New Science" Part Four

THE CATHOLICS, THE GNOSTICS, AND GLOBAL WARMING

In recent Digest Articles we looked at simple science experiments you can do to prove that there is NO greenhouse layer, and thus there is no man-made global warming. We looked at how the concept of "global warming" is based on a new "religion" with the so-called "proof" being based not on scientific evidence, but on a "consensus" of the College of "green house" Cardinals.

We looked at how human history shows a repeating cycle of about 2,000 years of Dark Ages with a small interlude of 200 years of scientific discoveries and technological break-throughs. Then the new science is quickly turned into a new form of world government-religion. The new Dark Age and a new "one world government" is about to begin with the "belief" in the Global Warming religion as the harbinger.

Recently there has been much news hype about a newly discovered ancient gnostic scroll called the Gospel of Judas. This gives us another look into the Global Warming religion. Anyone wanting information about the Gnostic religion would probably start with the excellent books by Dr. Elaine Pagels. But in those books you would be hard put to find any difference between the Gnostic religion and the Catholic religion. And there is a reason.

There is NO difference between the "religion" of the Catholics and the Gnostics. There might be some minor "sectarian" belief differences, but they are both substantially "Christian" religions.

The big difference is that the beliefs of the Gnostics were a "religion" but "Catholicism" is a GOVERNMENT. Catholicism became the first state religion which is banned by the US Constitution, and is the model and basis for all fundamentalist Muslim governments.

The term "Catholic" is not a religious term. It is from the Latin "cata-holic" which means "categorically whole" or complete. It could be called the First Century version of "The New World Order." It was the Christian religion which was combined with the Roman Empire, but with the new head of government being the Pope, rather than the Roman emperor. (I should note that I am referring here only to the early or historical Catholic church and NOT the current Catholic church.)

The Gnostics, mostly in Egypt, from about 200 AD refused to be subservient to the newly forming central government church in Rome. Despite all the "horror" stories about feeding Christians to the lions, the Roman "church and state" actually started coming together about 100 AD. It is clear from the apostle Paul's writings, that it started during the lifetime of Paul, in the first century. For that reason, the early Gnostics were branded as "heretics," simply because they refused to be subservient to the church in Rome.

The Gnostics were mostly all the many Christian churches in Egypt. There were hundreds of them around 200 AD, all up and down the Nile River. That is where the 50 or so Nag Hammadi Library texts and even the Gospel of Judas were found, in Egypt. The Gnostic gospels were all secretly hidden away, and only found thousands of years later, since the Catholics in Rome had already decided to seek out and burn them all. We only now, are finding the long lost remnants. And now you know why they were so carefully hidden away, and why they were so very hard to find.

Most of the gnostic texts were written in Coptic, which is the Egyptian language using Greek alphabet letters. The texts almost all describe an ongoing "spiritual war" between the "good church" and the "bad church."

Most Gnostic scholars have all made the same mistake of thinking that the two churches were two sects among the Hebrew religion. But not so. The bad church was the nascent Catholic church in Rome which about the time of the writing of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammadi Library, had already begun the mass-murders of all heretics and the burning of all their writings.

I had discovered that fact back in 1975, but so far I have not read any scholar, including Dr Elaine Pagels, who has figured out that the two churches were "Christian" and not "Hebrew." But that is because the Catholic church had completely "erased" all history of the events between 100 AD and 350 AD, except in the "approved" biblical texts, so no scholars ever made the connection that the "bad church" was the Catholics.

The Vatican Library in Rome has 25 miles of shelves of historical books and documents hidden in deep crypts, going back to the founding of the church. Like all criminal governments, such as Hitler's Nazis and Saddam's Tikriti Sunnis, they all kept good records of all the names of peoples and groups annihilated. But so far, nobody has been able to get access to any of the very early Vatican documents. Maybe some day.

The Gospel of Judas is actually not new. It was discovered about 30 years ago, about the same time as the Dead Sea Scrolls, along with the Nag Hammadi Library, but the "owner" wanted to sell it to the highest bidder but nobody bought it at her price. But finally the seller found a good price, since it now has the value of being made into a movie, meaning potential big bucks.

But the text of the Judas scrolls had been translated and known for decades. So, one wonders why all the current hoopla in the newsmedia about "the Judas Text" -- unless it's pushing for a new movie. As a follow on to the movie blockbusters, Mel Gibson's "Passion" and the new Dan Brown movie "Da Vinci Code" -- the revelations in the Judas Text would fit right in as a successful sequel -- "The Passion of Judas in the Da Vinci Code Part II."

Many people blame the "horrendous" reign of Constantine for the source of massacres. But it wasn't just the corrupt emperors. They were all corrupt and murderous which is why Rome failed and was taken over by a religion. It was actually the Church itself, with its new "power of the state" which now had the ability and manpower to produce and direct genocide against all "infidels and heretics." Muhammad merely copied the early Catholics 300 years later. And many Islamic sects still do today.

That early Catholic event is actually described in a odd book now found at the end of the bible, called "Revelation" -- it is not properly a part of the bible and is not a religious book. The book of Revelation is addressed to "the seven churches in Asia." That meant it was written to the churches in Greece and Turkey along with the church in Rome. But, it did NOT mention any of the larger ten or twelve major Christian churches in Africa, meaning Egypt. The Egyptian Christian or Coptic church was actually much larger with many more sects than the Asian or Roman Church. But they had refused to be subsumed under the control of Rome. It was a problem of government, and not a difference in religious beliefs.

In fact, it was a horrendous event called the "Massacre of the Theban Legion" which directly led to the collapse of the Roman Empire under the Roman emperors. The Theban Legion of the Roman Army was entirely made up of Coptic Christians from the Egyptian city of Thebes. I will let the reader look this up and read about the real reason why the Roman government collapsed. It is a story which the early Catholic church did not want published. It should have been one of the most popular and instructive religious books in the bible, but since it involved the Christian Egyptian Copts, it was "banned" from the bible.

The Revelation text was written about 300 AD and was part of the attempt to find a "proper" collection of "acceptable" texts which had already been "secretly chosen" before the Council of Nicea formally voted on any choices. The story of the choice of the acceptable books is the story found in Revelation. It described all the "horrible" events which would befall those who did not join the "Seven Churches" under the hegemony in Rome.

The book of Revelation is NOT a book of prophecy. It is a book of history. It was a book of advertising for the new Catholic World Government "under god." I can see the parallels between the text in "Revelation" and the modern "Federalist Papers." Both documents try to "sell" the advantages of a strong central federal government or church. The big selling point in Revelation was that if you don't join the central Roman Church, then you will be among the "third of the world who will be destroyed -- unless you 'repent' and join the seven churches." That is an odd prophesy, unless you know why the document was written. That was a strong selling point, and it was actually put into practice about 370 AD.

All those who think "Revelation" is prophetic and to be read today as prophesy, didn't understand the text. All the events predicted in the Revelation text already came about with the founding of the Church in Rome with the "Gift of Constantine" and the Council of Nicea about 10 years later. This was followed by the massive genocide of Christian "heretics" described in the "Revelation." Thus the Book of Revelation was really the historical "marching orders" for the army of the newly founded Roman-Empire/Catholic-Church after 370 AD.

The book of Revelation is far different from all the other biblical texts, so I wonder why it was ever included into the collection of biblical texts. Except for the fact that it was was "specially commissioned" for the Council of Nicea as their "plan of action" after the Council meeting. Thus, it really was an addendum or appendix for the chosen biblical texts, which all the council members took back home with them. It also must have been discussed and approved by the Nicean Council for it to be on the approved list of books. But the appendix then included what all the "good Catholics" should do when they got back home, which is why the "appendix marching orders" now appears stuck at the end of the bible.

Much later, there was a big reason for the split in the Catholic Church with the Reformation occurring in 1500 AD, which most people still don't understand. Martin Luther did rebel, and formed the Protestant religion, but NOT because his "religion" was different. Martin Luther protested and seceded from the corrupt "government" in Rome. Both the Catholics and Protestants are still "Christian" religions, but they have different "governments." The Reformation was the "north" seceding from the "south" followed by a century long civil war and the deaths of millions. It was a Civil War, based on differences in constitution, and not on any theological differences.

The Catholic constitution is based on the central control of a single "pontiff." The word pontiff is from the Latin meaning a "bridge" who is authorized to reach across from this world into the spiritual world, and then bring back special spiritual knowledge. The Catholics only select and approve one "pontiff." The Protestants don't accept the concept of the "pontiff" as the only source of spiritual knowledge.

The first to show disbelief in the "pontiff" theory was the English King, Henry VIII. Henry believed he could make his own spiritual rules. The Anglican church is almost exactly the same as the Catholic church, but with a different English Pontiff. When Henry's secession seemed to work, since the army in Rome could not defeat the English army despite many attempts, this quickly led Martin Luther to also decry the concept of the "Roman pontiff" and then to secede. This also worked. The army of the Protestants was just too big to be defeated by Rome.

This same situation was also true for the very early church, when the Egyptian Christian Copts also did not believe in the concept of the Roman "pontiff." The Copts felt that they had their own "bridge to knowledge" and is why they were called "Gnostics." The word Gnostic comes from the Greek word "gnosis" meaning "to Know" The Gnostics had their own "pontiff" or way of "Knowing." The difference is one of governments and not religious beliefs.

That same "reformation" civil war event had actually occurred nearly 1200 years earlier, when the Egyptian Gnostics seceded from the European Catholics. The result was a massive world-wide civil war beginning about 370 AD. Of course, you never heard of this before. All of this was completely"erased" from the history of the Catholic Church and none of the bloodthirsty mass murders is to be found in the biblical texts -- except in Revelation. It certainly was not taught in any Catholic churches.

That is the value of the newly discovered Gnostic Texts. The Catholic and Gnostic religions were the same Christian religions, but the governments described in the Gnostic texts were far different from the government in Rome. That is what Dr. Elaine Pagel's was trying to describe in her books, but most people don't understand that she was NOT showing the differences in the "religions" but the differences in the "government."

I have to admit, that Dr. Pagels was not very clear on that point, which is why many readers might not understand that is what she was describing. I had already studied this topic back in 1975, with a special world-class scholar who was a specialist on the Reformation. My professor at the University of Santa Clara had actually spent several years of post-doctorate theological study in the depths of the Vatican Library. That's how I know what's in that library. Strangely, my professor was the only Lutheran scholar at the Jesuit-run University of Santa Clara.

My professor had been especially "commissioned" by both the Lutheran and Catholic churches to research and report on the "reasons" for the Reformation Movement, and maybe find a way to heal the great schism between the two churches. That would be a massive job, and a major change in today's world. Of course, that meant a special dispensation from the Pope in Rome to allow a "foreigner," a highly respected Lutheran scholar from America, to go rummaging through the basement of the Vatican Library Archives. Wow? Just think, if only I had been able to tell him what to go look for, before he began his research.

In my studies with him, I tried to "drain" him of everything he knew and had seen in the Vatican Library. I knew he was a very special resource which was not available to anybody else. He was most surprised to find that I had already researched this topic on my own, several years earlier. That's why he accepted me as a special independent study research student.

Most of what you are reading here was discovered by me about 1972. I told this to my professor in 1975. He was most amazed. Which is why we spent almost a year working together on a new revised history of the Reformation period. He had all the actual data from the Vatican Library, and I had the theory. We put the two together.

For some reason, he expected me to publish our findings, and he said that he hoped to read the book soon. But that was 30 years ago, and I still haven't published it. I got distracted for two decades by a small side project called the NASA Space Shuttle. But I am now back to publishing it as part of the front page topics in the Brother Jonathan Gazette.

I wrote several advanced independent-studies research papers for him on that topic as part of my university minor in Epistemology. Epistemology is also called either the History of Science or the Theory of Knowledge. Epistemology is properly a part of the department of philosophy, but at Santa Clara it was under the religious studies department. So when I later, read the newly published books by Dr. Pagels about Gnosticism, I already knew that the big difference between Catholicism and Gnosticism was governmental and NOT religious. When looked at from that point of view, the strange book, "The Gnostic Gospels" by Pagels, suddenly all makes sense.

And now today's scientific experiment:

EXPERIMENT

Run to your bookshelf or library and get a copy of the book of Revelation. Then grab a copy of your newspaper and look for the latest Theory of Global Warming. You can find both on the Internet. Then carefully read both documents.

Both documents claim to predict massive worldwide destruction. Both claim to predict the end of the world as we know it. Both blame "the sins" of mankind for bringing on the destruction. Both documents claim you must repent and stop your beliefs in "heresies" or you will be among the dead. Both claim that the "end times" are at hand.

Both documents are products of powerful government-controlled priesthoods. One document proclaims you must accept the findings of the Council of Nicea and accept the behavior protocols of Revelation - or else. The other document proclaims you must accept the findings of the Council of Rio and accept the behavior Protocols of Kyoto - or else. Both documents were designed to make believers accept a One-World or Cata-holic New World Order -- or else.

Since both similar documents are carefully crafted government "mind control" propaganda, what is the major difference between the two? About 1,700 years...

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Posted: Apr 13 2006, 09:50 PM
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Interesting stuff Betty. Thank you for sharing it here.

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There is NO difference between the "religion" of the Catholics and the Gnostics. There might be some minor "sectarian" belief differences, but they are both substantially "Christian" religions.

The big difference is that the beliefs of the Gnostics were a "religion" but "Catholicism" is a GOVERNMENT. Catholicism became the first state religion which is banned by the US Constitution, and is the model and basis for all fundamentalist Muslim governments.

The term "Catholic" is not a religious term. It is from the Latin "cata-holic" which means "categorically whole" or complete. It could be called the First Century version of "The New World Order." It was the Christian religion which was combined with the Roman Empire, but with the new head of government being the Pope, rather than the Roman emperor.


The end paragraphs sure are good food for thought also.




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Hmmm. Yes the "religion" of the Gnostics and the Catholics might stem from the same source but there is one fundamental difference. The Catholics and the other psychic religions merely require adherants to blindly believe what is written in the Bible or what their leadership spouts. To be a Gnostic you must help yourself to know God and Yeshuosha.
The difference is in the words believe and know. Psychic Christians are in Gnostic pre-school.

Yeshuosha was a Gnostic Essene. That's been good enough to set me on the trail to gnosis. I have a long way to go but already I feel more at peace within myself and my rapport with God is stronger than ever. The only downside (if you can call it a downside) is that I am much more aware of the injustices and demonic barbarities of the human race. I now understand why God can sometimes be angry and that bearing righteous anger does not make you an un-Christian. It is puerile anger which impacts your soul.




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I've been reading quite a bit of Gnostic texts recently, and I have to take deep issue with equating Gnosticism with Christianity or Judaism. It predates both and the Hellenized Western world view as well. Its origins may well precede Sumer. What we know of it prior the discovery of the Nag Hammadi Library is derived for the most part from Irenaeus' refutation of heresies in 180 CE and much of what I see today is ironically filtered through Irenaeus, Hippolytus and Augustine, who was previously a Gnostic himself. The Apocryphon of John and the Gospel of Truth are much older texts with a veneer of Judeo Christianity appended later. Gnostism was considered the most dangerous rival to Constantinian Christianity ever to exist and equating the two reveals the pervasive insidious thought filter that was fabricated by those who consummated the final destruction of surviving texts at the Library of Alexandria. With all due respect to Elaine Pagel's renown scholarship, Pagan Gnosticism and its PanAsiatic roots are so antithetical to Western thought that it is difficult for one steeped in our culture to view them as anything but dangerous threats to our whole world view. Not unlike acceptance that 9/11 was an inside job. I would urge anyone interested in this subject to read the texts themselves which are now widely available in English in such collections such as "The Other Bible".


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Posted: Apr 19 2006, 11:49 PM
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Tex, can you provide any source links for more Gnostic information and knowledge?

It seems to be an itriguing subject and some of us, like myself, have browser problems when surfing google or other mainstream sites.

I'd really appreciate if you or anyone reading this can provide some informative links.

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I found this website to be extremely informative with several links. After reading the introductory material be sure to check out the article "Coco de Mer" in the right hand menu.
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Direct link to Coco de Mer 1 and 2 here:
http://www.metahistory.org/Gaia_Story.php


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