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Posted: Apr 16 2006, 11:15 PM
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A friend posted this video on her Live Journal.

Loose Change 2nd Edition Video on Google



Here is the actual site:
Loose Change 2nd Edition

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Our swords will shine over the light

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Quietly crept in and changed us all
Nightfall
Quietly crept in and changed us all
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Immortal land lies down in agony"

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"We are both kept in the dark and fed bullshit and seem to thrive on it."

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Posted: Apr 16 2006, 11:33 PM
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We will gladly send a free DVD to anybody who lost friends or family on September 11th, 2001
http://www.loosechange911.com/

"Loose Change is a terrifying, masterful, well paced 9/11 conspiracy documentary that puts Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 to absolute shame."
-R.L. Shaffer, DVDFuture 

"Loose Change 2nd Edition" is the follow-up to the most provocative 9-11 documentary on the market today. This film shows direct connection between the attacks of September 11, 2001 and the United States government. Evidence is derived from news footage, scientific fact, and most important, Americans who suffered through that tragic day.

IT IS EVERYONE'S duty TO VIEW THIS FILM!




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Posted: Apr 17 2006, 06:29 PM
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Here's some related information received in email...

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Bush Defector to Demolish 9/11 Big Lie in Madison
Kevin Barrett
30.03.2006 
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The former top economist in Bush's Department of Labor, Morgan Reynolds, will speak out on the 9/11 inside job at the State Historical Society, University of Wisconsin-Madison on Saturday, May  6th. The film Loose Change will be shown, and refreshments served, starting at 1 p.m, and Reynolds will speak at 3:00 p.m.



Dr. Reynolds, who holds three U.W.-Madison degrees, and who is currently Professor of Economics at Texas A&M University, will present evidence that top Bush Administration officials orchestrated the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center, and the murder of almost 2,500 Americans, as a pretext for initiating their pre-planned "long war" in the Middle East.


"While more Americans doubt the 9/11 story every week, evidence abounds that many have a mental block against rational examination of the evidence about 9/11" writes Dr. Reynolds in a recent article. This mental block, he thinks, amounts to willful ignorance-not just about 9/11, but about history.


"Governments throughout history have provoked or staged attacks on their own people to serve the powers behind the throne ('the money power'), glorify themselves, engage in vast government spending, reward friends, exert domestic control, stimulate the juices of war, annex neighbors and pursue vast geostrategic rearrangements (the 'global domination project)" Reynolds asserts. He notes that every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on the "Operation Northwoods" plan to murder Americans in fake "Cuban terrorist" attacks in 1962. The planned Operation Northwoods murders of ordinary Americans in fake terrorist bombings and a fake "airliner shoot-down" would have involved hundreds of military and intelligence personnel. Yet the existence of Operation Northwoods was successfully kept secret from the American people for forty years until James Bamford revealed it in his book Body of Secrets, published in January 2002.


Though government officials have historically been able to successfully conceal their fake or arranged war-trigger attacks long enough to avoid being hanged for treason, Reynolds thinks the 9/11 cover-up has already unraveled. "Skepticism about conspiracy, small or large, is somewhat beside the point in the case of 9/11 because the official Osama-and-Nineteen-Young-Arabs (ONYA) conspiracy tale is so farcical and impossible. Nearly everyone in America has easy access to the internet and hundreds of websites expose the 9/11 fraud." (Morgan Reynolds, "Conspiracy and Closed Minds on 9/11": http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911 )


Reynolds argues that the Twin Towers and World Trade Center Building 7 were destroyed in a manner that can only be explained by controlled demolition with pre-planted explosives-which should not be surprising, since no steel framed high-rises have ever collapsed in the way the three World Trade Center buildings did for any other reason. In his article "Why Did the World Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse?" Reynolds writes that among the many features of the WTC demolitions that suggest explosives, rather than jet-fuel fires, are:


1. Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11.
2. The fires, especially in the South Tower and WTC-7, were small.
3. WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of this 47-story steel building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds.
4. WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams (pp. 68-9).
5. In a PBS documentary, Larry Silverstein, the WTC lease-holder, recalled talking to the fire department commander on 9/11 about WTC-7 and said, ".maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it," slang for demolish it.
6. FEMA, given the uninviting task of explaining the collapse of Building 7 with mention of demolition verboten admitted that the best it could come up with had "only a low probability of occurrence."
7. It's difficult if not impossible for hydrocarbon fires like those fed by jet fuel (kerosene) to raise the temperature of steel close to melting.


Professional demolition, by contrast, can explain all of these facts and more. Demolition means placing explosives throughout a building, and detonating them in sequence to weaken "the structure so it collapses or folds in upon itself". In conventional demolitions gravity does most of the work, although it probably did a minority on
9/11, so heavily were the towers honeycombed with explosives.


1. Each WTC building collapse occurred at virtually free-fall speed (approximately 10 seconds or less).

2. Each building collapsed, for the most part, into its own footprint.

3. Virtually all the concrete (an estimated 100,000 tons in each tower) on every floor was pulverized into a very fine dust, a phenomenon that requires enormous energy and could not be caused by gravity alone ("...workers can't even find concrete. 'It's all dust,' [the official] said").

4. Dust exploded horizontally for a couple hundred feet, as did debris, at the beginning of each tower's collapse.

5. Collapses were total, leaving none of the massive core columns sticking up hundreds of feet into the air.

6. Salvage experts were amazed at how small the debris stacks were.

7. The steel beams and columns came down in sections under 30 feet long and had no signs of "softening"; there was little left but shorn sections of steel and a few bits of concrete.

8. Photos and videos of the collapses all show "demolition waves," meaning "confluent rows of small explosions" along floors (blast sequences).

9. According to many witnesses, explosions occurred within the buildings.

10. Each collapse had detectable seismic vibrations suggestive of underground explosions, similar to the 2.3 earthquake magnitude from a demolition like the Seattle Kingdome (p. 108).

11. Each collapse produced molten steel identical to that generated by explosives, resulting in "hot spots" that persisted for months (the two hottest spots at WTC-2 and WTC-7 were approximately 1,350o F five days after being continuously flooded with water, a temperature high enough to melt aluminum (p. 70).
("Why Did the Trade Center Skyscrapers Collapse?" by Morgan Reynolds: http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911 )


The apparent demolition of the three skyscrapers, and a perhaps inadvertent statement by heavily-insured WTC landlord Larry Silverstein that WTC-7 was "pulled" (slang for "demolished") can be viewed on many 9/11 truth DVDs and web-videos, including Loose Change, 9/11 Eyewitness, 9/11 and the American Empire, (Dr. David Griffin), and 9/11 Revisited (Dr. Steven Jones).

Dr. Reynolds' articles on 9/11 and other matters can be found at http://nomoregames.net .

The videos, and further information about Dr. Reynolds' May 6th speech, are available from the event's sponsor, the Madison-based Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth: http://mujca.com




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Posted: Apr 17 2006, 09:08 PM
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If there is any weak link in the 9/11 cover-up it would surely be the technicians who placed the explosives. This sort of work would normally go to people who have a high level of expertise and so the technicians should be easy to track by virtue of their small numbers. Unfortunately small numbers also means easy to dispose of.
On the other hand, the veritable pulverising of the concrete suggests that too much explosives were used and this suggests that miltary personnel with plenty of explosive experience but limited building demolition experience were used. These people would be more difficult to identify.

If the buildings collapsed as the result of aircraft strikes, the parts of the towers above the strike areas would have fallen over sideways because neither aircraft had a central hit and one side would have weakened first making the buildings structurally unbalanced.
Only small "puffs" of explosions appear around floors 92-94 (roughly - I can't get a clear count) at the commencement of the first collapse with little controlled demolition evidence visible from the outside of the towers. This and the absence of the central core suggests that the controlled demolition was via destruction of the very strong central core causing the building to collapse from the interior. The lack of triangulation in the outer skin would allow it to collapse upon itself as seen in the videos.

This poses the questions;

Who placed the explosives?
Where were they placed?
When were they placed?
What kind of explosives were used?
Why were they not discovered by building occupants?
Where was the detonation control centre?

I would suggest military personnel placed the explosives.
I would suggest that the bulk were placed in a lift shaft. Was a lift shaft that went to the top quarter of the towers out of action for some time before 9/11? The wiring could use building backbone cabling already run in or near the lift shaft.
I would suggest that they were placed during normal building occupancy by people posing as maintenance or office fit-out workers.
I would suggest that military explosives were used because of personnel expertise, high gas pressure output, little residual deposits and low smoke.
The explosives were not discovered by building occupants because they were placed in locations to which occupants did not have access (empty floors, lift wells and service ducts).
I would suggest building 7 as the control centre for the tower demolition. This building, in turn, was demolished to destroy evidence via a mobile control centre.




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Posted: Apr 17 2006, 09:25 PM
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I had another thought.

Suppose 9/11 is laid incontrovertibly at the feet of US organisation(s), what will America do about the effect it has had on external peoples?

Will the people of Iraq be apologised to and have their President reinstated?
What level of compensation will be paid to Iraqi people for pain, suffering, destruction of property and ridiclue?
Will the US rebuild all the destroyed Iraqi infrastructure free of charge?
Will the US offer an olive branch to the Moslem world?
Will the US realise that the the end does not justify the means?

or

Will the US crucify a few scapegoats and go on as before?




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Posted: Apr 17 2006, 09:38 PM
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uggliozzi, too many thoughts, you make my head hurt!

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But you raise some good points.

IMHO, all I know is that the WTC was brought down just like a professional demolition.

WTC #7 was a blatant, in your face, "watch this" type of demolition event.
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Posted: Apr 18 2006, 12:38 AM
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From WRH readers section...
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/letters/

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READER: A reader asked, "Is there some non-tainted 9/11 video that I CAN recommend that my friend and his kids watch?"

I like "9/11 Revisited" ( http://www.911revisited.com ) and have asked both friends and family to watch it. It is more focused than Loose Change, which tries to cover too much with some shady "evidence". The film only discusses the explosives used to collapse WTC 1, 2 and 7 and features Stephen R. Jones, David Ray Griffin and Jeff King.

It can be viewed online for free at the following sites: http://www.911revisited.com/video.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1951610169657809939

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