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Posted: Jul 20 2005, 04:51 PM
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Hi waving.gif Coback, not bad... not bad at all!!!

Thanks for sharing that here and welcome.gif to the forum!
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I've often theorized that the big heads are still living among us and at birth had their skulls shaped upwards instead of back as displayed in your image.

You can see some of the big heads in movies. They really do have large skulls.

It reminds me of Herman Munster - Fred Gwynne was a natural big head.

I have always liked him.




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Posted: Jul 20 2005, 05:59 PM
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Well all I did with that was take the Nefertiti (or her daughter, I forget which) bust and slapped skin on the dome and put my friend's face over the original. If I found complimentary images, I'm very certain I could make similar works with the more cone shaped skulls. But the dome appealed to me the most as it had an actual face to work with.
I wouldn't know if there's any full bloods running around today, but I'm fairly certain there's definate half breeds out there. 'Luckily' doctors can fix the condition if it becomes too extreme.
Good thing they don't see the 'need' to shorten decendants of giants smileyP.gif
I'd bet money that everyone alive has some differing blood in them. It's just obvious when one thinks about it. But, I suppose if people came to accept that, it'd just give people even more ways to hate each other.
I wonder if the dome/cone heads had hair or if that was a trait later integrated by relations with the hairier races. The Egyptians were known to shave a lot afterall.
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Posted: Jul 21 2005, 07:34 PM
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Well I still think that you did a great job with the image and your friend's facial features are very similar to that of egyptian royalty. I have a feeling that some of the elongated skulled royalty still exist, though they might not make too many appearances anymore.

As for them having hair... scratchinghead.gif chinscratch.gif I really don't know if they did or not... If I remember correctly, a few of the Amarna children were depicted with locks of hair though most of their heads were bald which was the style back then... so at least some of the later generations most likely did have hair.

Speaking of Egyptians... I accidently stumbled on another one with an elongated skull. His name was Imhotep and he lived somewhere around the third dynasty and was he advisor of pharoh Zoser or Djoser around 2600 BC. He was considered to be one of the first great geniuses and claimed the titles of architect, astronomer, philosopher, poet and physician. In some of the material that I have read, he was called the God of Father of medicine and the Prince of Peace... A very interesting character indeed.


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The image isn't that good, but I am in the process of trying to ccquire a bust of him and will post images of it once I get it... If I get it that is...

One more thing before I forget...

His father was said to be the God Ptah... and Ptah was somehow associated with a girl named Penbui... or Pebbui.

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Ptah is sitting on Penbui's shoulder BTW...

There's no doubt in my mind that she had an elongated skull too.

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Too bad there's no information about who she was.


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Posted: Jul 21 2005, 10:09 PM
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Appologies, Darmon Ving, I didn't even see your first post! Glad I caught your second! lol
I was thinking of doing versions of the conehead, pumpkin head, and devil head, but then I realized some rich guy had beaten me to them!

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But seriously. I would greatly enjoy taking on those skulls and some giants. The starchild especially seems fairly complicated.
I like to try to think out of what one would expect so I've done trial heads in multiple hues including blue, green, and red. I've also tried a multitude of ears and noses. Ears especially as there's tons of legends and folklore out there that mentions elven folk and they're always depicted with pointed ears which makes me think there might be something onto that.
I feel it's important to at least attempt this (and hopefully a person with more skill, possibly even an actual artist will try something) because it helps drive home the reality of these and other discoveries.


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Posted: Jul 22 2005, 06:12 PM
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Study of the evolution of the human skull shape
Dr. Gérard Subsol, Projet EPIDAURE, INRIA Sophia Antipolis - France

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1. Automatic extraction of sets of crest lines in the 3D CT-Scan images of the skull of a prehistoric man (Broken-Hill, 400,000 years old) and of the skull of a contemporary man.

2. Automatic registration of the two sets of lines.

3. Based on the point to point correspondences found in previous step, computation of a 3D spline transformation that superimposes the two skull surfaces.

4. Interpolation of the transformation at different time points to create intermediary transformations.

5. Application of these transformations to the 3D surface reconstruction of the contemporary skull to create an animation

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Posted: Jul 22 2005, 07:01 PM
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I like to try to think out of what one would expect so I've done trial heads in multiple hues including blue, green, and red. I've also tried a multitude of ears and noses. Ears especially as there's tons of legends and folklore out there that mentions elven folk and they're always depicted with pointed ears which makes me think there might be something onto that.


I'd say that there is something real about beings with pointed ears and different skin colors and oddly shaped heads because it is impossible to think that someone just simply dreamed them up. Almost every culture has had their own version of the elven-like folk so there is probably a very good chance that they either once existed or still exist in our dimension or another one.

As for our large headed beings, there is more than enough evidence of their existence and that up until a little over 2000 years ago, they were still here with us.
I suspect that if any of them have survived, they are hiding in the most remote areas of the world, far away from us as they possibly can get.



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Posted: Jul 22 2005, 07:43 PM
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its certainly probable that species types vary through the universal elements,we on earth here are iron based,others may live on planets with high copper content ,that being its likely theyre skin tone could be blue,.ie the pleidians.




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Posted: Jul 24 2005, 02:38 PM
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Almost every culture has had their own version of the elven-like folk so there is probably a very good chance that they either once existed or still exist in our dimension or another one.


Well, seeing as there's very real evidence for giants, dwarves, hobbits, and (to a much lesser extent) fairy/gnome type creatures, I frankly don't doubt at all that there were elvish folk at one time (and maybe still are).
The important thing to remember is that these races didn't neccessarily die out so much as were breeded out. It's been discussed in the giant thread that it's certainly a possibility. How many kids have the nickname 'big red' afterall?
With that in mind, I've seen plenty of people with fairly pointed ears. Not to the length of what elves usually get depicted with, but still, they're fairly pointed.
Now, I can't think of a human race where pointy ears is a standard trait so, it leads me to believe that another race came into play way back when.


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Posted: Jul 24 2005, 05:18 PM
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And I totally agree. smileNew4.gif




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Posted: Jul 28 2005, 01:28 PM
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Speaking of Egyptians... I accidently stumbled on another one with an elongated skull. His name was Imhotep and he lived somewhere around the third dynasty and was he advisor of pharoh Zoser or Djoser around 2600 BC.

He was definitely an interesting man and a really mysterious one too.

His name basically means either the "Sage" or "One who comes in peace."

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Of the details of his life, very little has survived though numerous statues and statuettes of him have been found. He lived at the court of King Zoser of the Third Dynasty, about 2980 B.C., where he established such a reputation as a healer that he was worshipped as a god for the next 3000 years, not only in Egypt but also in Greece and Rome. Even early Christianity worshipped him as the Prince of Peace. His father was an architect named Kanofer; his mother was Khreduonkh, and his wife, Ronfrenofert. Imhotep appears to have been versatile like Aristotle and Leonardo da Vinci. In addition to being the chief physician to the king, he was sage and scribe, chief lector priest, architect, astronomer, and magician. At that time magic and medicine were allied, as in native Africa and the East today. He was also a poet and a philosopher. He preached cheerfulness and urged contentment. His proverbs, embodying a philosophy of life, caught popular fancy, and were handed down from generation to generation. One of his best-known sayings is: "Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we shall die."
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Imhotep designed and built the first pyramid in human history, the Step Pyramid at Saqqara, the first manifestation of higher knowledge in ancient Egypt.

He belonged to a closed organization of priests called the School of Mysteries of "The Eye of Horus", exclusive guardians of knowledge in ancient Egypt.

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You mentioned that his father was Ptah but no one really knows for certain who his parents were or exactly where he came from.

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He was really a mysterious person and one who definitely had an elongated skull.

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eyeball.gif I see... For one who was from a closed organization of priests, Imhotep sure did put out a great deal of knowledge. winkNEW.gif Of course their original purpose was perhaps to spread knowledge and not keep it to themselves.

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Imhotep designed and built the first pyramid in human history, the Step Pyramid at Saqqara, the first manifestation of higher knowledge in ancient Egypt.


Ah yes, Imhotep was the one who designed the Saqqara pyramid which was technically the first Egyptian pyramid but not the first pyramid as they would like us to think.


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Many authors think that if the Alexandria Library had not been burnt down, Imhotep´s books would have been preserved and he would have been considered, together with Hipocrates, one of the fathers of modern medicine. He was so good that after his death people considered him a healing god and his temples functioned as a sort of hospitals at those times.
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The Step Pyramid was designed for King Djoser (Dynasty 3) by his vizier Imhotep. The pyramid is located in Saqqara, the main necropolis of Memphis. The multiple uraei (plural of uraeus, a rearing cobra with a spread hood), on the left in the foreground, are divine protectors of the king. The view is across the South Court.

The Step Pyramid is the first known monumental structure made of stone anywhere in the world. As its name suggests, it is a series of six levels of stone decreasing in size as they ascend to about 200 feet/60 meters in height. Until this time, mastabas had been the principal form of tomb architecture. A mastaba (Arabic for "bench") is a low rectangular structure which was built over a shaft which descended to the burial location. The Step Pyramid originally began as a mastaba, and it may have been visualized as a series of mastaba shapes, decreasing in size, stacked one on top of another. Whatever the origin, it creates an impressive geometrical form rising from the floor of the desert.

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Those images confirmed the presence of huge, smooth, cut granite-like blocks in perpendicular and circular formations, some in pyramid shapes, the researchers said. Most of the blocks, measuring between about 6.5 and 16 feet in length, were exposed, some stacked one on another, the researchers said.

Others were covered in sediment and the fine, white sand that characterizes the area, the researchers said.
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He was really a mysterious person and one who definitely had an elongated skull.


Yes he did have a very elongated skull. And speaking of his elongated skull... I have made arrangements to receive that bust of Imhotep and should be getting it in a few days and I will be posting a few pictures of it once I get it. clapping.gif

It will look good next to my figurines of ISIS kneeling with spread wings and Amenhotep with that unusual body shape but with a normal looking skull shape as far as I can tell.

I also discovered a bust of Nefertiti without her headgear and she has a very elongated skull as well... I'll have to see if I can get that one and add it to my collection too. rolleyesNEW.gif


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Posted: Aug 1 2005, 02:11 PM
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I doubt that I will be able to get the bust of Nefertiti so I'll just post the pictures of it here.

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This is a first class museum replica composed of a resin set on a mahogany veneered base. Measuring about 9 inches tall and the base is 5.5 inches squared. It was bought in the late 60s from a shop just outside the British Museum in London. At the time it was very expensive. It is in extremely good condition as it was well cared for. The majority of Nefertiti statues show her with some form of head dress, this is one of the rare occasions when the amazing, elongated shape of her head is clearly depicted. Recent archaeological evidence has indicated that she and her family had a genetic disorder that resulted in family members having elongated features, which were enhanced by the practise of extending the cranium from birth.


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Posted: Aug 3 2005, 08:44 AM
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eyeball.gif I see... For one who was from a closed organization of priests, Imhotep sure did put out a great deal of knowledge. winkNEW.gif Of course their original purpose was perhaps to spread knowledge and not keep it to themselves.


For some reason, I think that you might be right about that. They seemed to have wanted to open people's eyes while the later ones wanted to close them. I'm not sure but I think the original priesthood was chased out by invaders somewhere around Imhotep's time and replaced with the nitwits that are still around today explaining why there are some key similarities between certain Peruvian skulls and that of the Amarna (?) group. scratchinghead.gif

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No argument on that one. Archaeologists don't like to get their feet wet. Always been a land based profession until quite recently I think. rolleyesNEW.gif

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handclap.gif WONDERFUL NEWS!!! blinkNEW.gif How'd you find something like that if you don't mind me asking? scratchinghead.gif

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It will look good next to my figurines of ISIS kneeling with spread wings and Amenhotep with that unusual body shape but with a normal looking skull shape as far as I can tell.


I think I saw those on Ebay. I did notice that Amenhotep did seem to have an Amarna (?) body. Very unusual indeed. Must be some sort of half-breed.

Is this the one?

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That is simply amazing. blinkNEW.gif

And it almost matches one of the skulls in the Peruvian collection...

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Posted: Aug 3 2005, 09:08 AM
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That's Nefertiti alright.

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And this is her statue:

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And the head shape very closely matches this skull:

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This is another view of the same skull:

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If that's not Nefertiti then it's almost definitely one of the Amarna line who somehow made it to Peru explaining the continuation of Pyramidal structures in that country. Weren't there Egyptian artifacts discovered in Peru or somewhere around there? I know that they were in the Mid West US so they must of been down there too.

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Posted: Aug 3 2005, 10:52 AM
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For some reason, I think that you might be right about that.


laughspin.gif Yeah it seems very logical that the Amarna clan left town and set up shop somewhere else since that one skull doesn't quite match the known Peruvian types.


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Thats true. lol2.gif I'm a member of the Terrafirma club myself... If the water's over three feet deep, you ain't gonna get me to go in it.

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You can find almost anything on Ebay. nyuknyuk.gif And believe it or not, I just purchased something really special... clapping.gif I just happened to be browsing the skull section and... I found a very rare cast/replica of one of the elongated Peruvian skulls. clapping.gif

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And Yeah that's the Amenhotep sculpture that I have BTW.

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Weren't there Egyptian artifacts discovered in Peru or somewhere around there? I know that they were in the Mid West US so they must of been down there too.


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I think that I did read somewhere that egyptian artifacts were found but I really don't remember where or when.

Herez something...

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