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> A Boeing 757 did not hit the Pentagon, by Michael Meyer
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Posted: May 19 2006, 05:39 AM
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so many links...
so little time..
or maybe we have been given all the time we need ????
i hope so.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm

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Posted: Oct 23 2006, 10:37 PM
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Pentagon Security? Camera Video from 9/11
3 Minutes 12 seconds
At minute 126 in the Google Video, you can see a speck of white for 1 frame.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...F11+video&hl=en

Here's 11 frames I put together from the Google link of the new government released video from the Pentagon security? camera.
It appears to be a slightly different view than the original 5 frames.

Note: The video contained more than 256 colors so my animation lost some image quality, but the video is extremely poor quality to begin with.
(intentionally of course!)

user posted image

The newly released video contained no more evidence to show what actually hit the Pentagon that day than the original 5 frames that has been online for 4-5 years. In fact the quality is even poorer than the original 5 frames.

Also, I see evidence of tampering as I assembled the animation frames.

Here's the original 5 frame animation so you can compare.
user posted image

Here's an enlarged version of the original 5 frames.
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  Posted: Oct 24 2006, 12:34 AM
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Donald Rumsfeld stated, during an interview with a reporter from Parade Magazine, that the Pentagon had been hit with a missile and the "Let's Roll" plane had been shot down over Pennsylvania.

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"It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon"
~ Donald Rumsfeld speaking from the Pentagon in an interview with Parade Magazine Oct 12, 2001




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Posted: Nov 5 2006, 08:40 AM
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Wow, I always just assumed there had been pictures, it's good to know...

Even so, who would have fired a missle? I think if the wound was self-inflicted they could have easily went to the trouble of using a plane to provide pics.


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  Posted: Sep 21 2010, 10:34 AM
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Here's a good video I just watched....

Government Confiscated 84 Camera Tapes

The implications are frightening indeed... we've been had!

Eyewitness Missile hit Pentagon on 9/11, No Plane,
Government Confiscated 84 Camera Tapes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-gmzxnaVs




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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 09:13 AM
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I've actually done some studying of the situation and have also been on both sides of the fence concerning this issue. Did or didn't a plane hit the Pentagon? And if one did, where's the wreckage? Wreckage? Well what most people fail to realize is that a 757, 767 or just about any other airliner is nothing more than a flying beer can. It's mostly aluminum... Aluminum melts. Put a beer can on the barbi or torch it. It burns rather nicely. Put Aviation fuel or even gas in that can and it's gonna burn really good... Ain't gonna be nothing left of it but maybe some white powder that's gonna blow away in the wind.

What would it look like if a jet crashed into a brick wall? Well I can show you what a military jet crashing into a wall would look like... Watch this...

Jet crash into wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR0f8n10DR4

Images of Jet Crashing Into Wall

Now you see it...
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/imgs/f4_1.jpg
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/imgs/f4_2.jpg
Now You Don't!!!
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/imgs/f4_3.jpg

Looks kind of similar to what was seen in the famous security camera animated gif that I will reference a little further down...

Images from this site:

ERROR: 'Aircraft Crashes Always Leave Large Debris'
http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/crashdebris.html

Not much left of the jet was there? And in the case of the Pentagon, everyone says that there was just a 13 foot hole and that a jet could not of made it. What they fail to consider is that a 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. The length of it is 155 ft 3 in and is like a giant missile... It has some reinforcements since it carries a payload and has a weight of 255,000 pounds with the majority of the weight being in the main 12 ft x 13 ft x 155 ft body. But still it is mostly aluminum so there ain't gonna be much of it left when it burns...

Not sure, but I think that it would have been carrying a full load which would have been 11,489 us gal. And where is that fuel located? In the main body of the jet. So now you got a 1 thousand gallon beer can crashing into what is basically a stone wall... Not a concrete wall... Oh wait a minute... The Pentagon wall was a reinforced concrete wall... But it wasn't as thick as the one in which the fighter jet crashed into so there was some penetration which was a rather nice 13 foot hole and there were also two 52 inch diameter markings, that for some reason, they tried to conceal which meant that something about the size and shape of a commercial jet crashed into the wall.

What seems odd to me is that a lot of the evidence was covered up... There was a gigantic scrape mark that was on the ground which was immediately disturbed and covered which indicated that the object was sliding on its belly across the lawn... The landing gear would of been up... Some of the wreckage was purposely covered up by tarps or mysteriously moved. But there was evidence... In one of the photos there were pieces of metal which had a certain color scheme with paint and primer that matched what would have been used in the construction of a 757...

Photo Exhibit One
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/ats...wn-evidence.jpg

Yes members of Above Top Secret did their own investigation as I and also a few of my hard core government conspiracy expert colleagues did and most of us came up with similar conclusions... We also saw evidence of this with flight 800, but in that case, they were just covering up the evidence of a missile impact, which was either a purposeful downing of a commercial jet, which would have been a case of mistaken identity, since another jet, which was delayed, was supposed to be on that same flight path...

The jet that was supposed to be there was one that was carrying French diplomats...

The other scenario that I used was that 800 wandered into a restricted military missilte test area and was impacted by a NAVY missile that was intended to shoot down a drone and that 800 simply got in the way, between the missile and the drone...

Both scenarios would have been plausible and easy to defend, but since the Olympic Games were coming up very soon, the government chose to blame the whole thing on a short in the fuel tank... With that said, I'm no stranger to conspiracies. 800 was over a 1 year investigation for me and I still check any new data that pops up.

I did find it very suspicious that all the military ships did immediately leave the area and were assigned to locations as far away as possible from the area. where the crews could not be questioned...

Don't forget that there is more than one Illuminati family and not all are friendly with one another... WWI, WWII and many other full scale wars were simply little squabbles between some of these families... They're all power hungry, but not all of them were evil, just as not all of the fallen angels were necessarily evil... Some just went along for the ride and were just given the same sentence as the really evil ones were. They would rather play chess with us than just beating up on one another directly so one side sending a plane or two after one of the other families ain't so unimaginable, for lack of a better word.

OK enough of that...

Back to the wreckage. I did say that there were certain paints and primer colors that were used. The primer used on the inside parts was green. Here's a famous piece of wreckage that was found on the lawn, Notice the green primer...

Photo Exhibit Two
http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photod...N-6157F-001.jpg

This is cool... I helped to distribute the famous ainmated gif from the images of the security camera, but never actually tried to break down the gif and try to match up the object pictured in it with a 757, but luckily someone did...

Animated Gif Comparison
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/ats...57/camera1b.gif

One thing that I did do was show that if you carefully watch the original gif, you will see one of the wheels of the object bounce around... I had a little program called the microsoft gif animator which was a very useful tool that I actually used to discect and build quite a few animated gifs so I could break down the image frame by frame...

Well anyway... Let's take a look at the engine or one of them anyway...

Photo Exhibit Three

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Below is a significant portion of a badly smashed RB211 engine in the Pentagon wreckage - what appears to be the diffusor section of the compressor, one of the pumps remains partially attached, some hoses and the familiar webbed wire wraps (to the right of the main ring) and some of the Boeing yellow primed support structure is lying beside it (left, with rivets - again: note the yellow primer, we'll cover that further down).


http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/ats...757/Damage9.jpg

OOPS!!! - Green and Yellow primers were used...

The engine was positively identified as a RB211... Not sure but I think it was an RB211 535 which was used in 757's... Yeah that's right... The 747's used the 211-524.

RB211-535 Engine Image
http://www.rolls-royce.com/civil/products/...raft/rb211_535/

RB211-535 Engine Schematic
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/consp...rb211-535_4.jpg

Pentagon & Boeing 757 Engine Investigation
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

Here's another piece of one of the engines...

Photo Exhibit Four - Damaged Engine Part with Comparison Image
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/consp...-comparison.jpg

Photo Exhibit Five - Exploded Engine Schematic View
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/consp...rb211-535_3.jpg

Photo Exhibit Six - Another Engine Part
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/consp...gon-engine5.jpg

And here is one of the dents that one of the engines made in the side of the Pentagon

Photo Exhibit Seven - Engine Dent
http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/4.jpg

Well that's enough on the engines...

Break time...

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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 09:31 AM
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It would be easier for THEM to simply show us some of the video tapes from the over 80 cameras that captured the event.

I still believe it was a missile and not a large plane.

Here's a video released from a lawsuit...

Rare Pentagon 9-11 Surveillance Camera Video of Impact
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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 10:07 AM
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Back to flight 800 for a moment...

One of my colleagues just sent me this...

Check this out...

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August 25, 1996 Times of London

U.S. officials are investigating reports that Islamic terrorists have
smuggled Stinger ground-to-air missiles into the United States from Pakistan.

Senior Iranian sources close to the fundamentalist regime in Tehran claimed this weekend that TWA flight 800 was shot down last month by one of three shoulder-fired Stingers of the type used by Islamic guerrillas during the Afghanistan war.

The sources said the missiles arrived in America seven months ago after being shipped from Karachi via Rotterdam and on to the Canadian port of Halifax.

They claimed an Egyptian fundamentalist group backed by Iran was responsible for smuggling the weapons across the Canadian border into the United States.

The group, the Gama'a al-Islamiya, comprises followers of Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, a blind Egyptian cleric jailed in the United States over the 1993 New York World Trade Center bombing.

A senior White House official responsible for counter-terrorism told The Sunday Times this weekend that he had seen a report that a Stinger missile had been smuggled into the United States from Pakistan. The official, who is involved in collating intelligence relating to the TWA inquiry for the White House, said investigators were aware of reports that Stingers may have been smuggled into the country.... If a Stinger was the cause of this, our first theory would be that it came from Afghanistan."

The official was commenting on reports from Tehran that claimed several groups funded by the religious authorities in Iran are active in the United States.

The reports claim one previously unknown underground group called Falakh may have as many as 50 highly trained terrorists in the country.


http://www.twa800.com/news/timesoflondon-8-25-96.htm

I was also told to look at this particular line...

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If a Stinger was the cause of this, our first theory would be that it came from Afghanistan." 


Hell let's just blame 800 on Assganifstan or maybe even Iraq... Are we ready to go invade them yet... No NOT yet... Too early... Damn Olympics would have to be now!!! - Let's just say that it blew itself up... Are You Nuts? Yeah... Faulty wiring... Don't some fire marshals or arson investigators blame some house fires and crap like that on faulty wiring when they don't want to investigate it? Sure they do... So do it!!! angryNEW.gif

Just a little internal dialog...

There was also a book or novel out at the time that had a scene in it of a man in a boat or something like that and he supposedly shot down a jet with a stinger missile. Not sure when the book came out but it was sometime around the time of the event which was an impossible scenario because stingers just don't have tthe range... Had to be a ship or sub launched one... Much bigger.

Oddly enough there was an episode of a TV show "Lone Gunmen" or something like that which was a spin off of the X-files with the three brainiacs that had the scenario of a smalll plane being remote controlled that was being guided to crash into , believe it or not, the World Trade Center... This episode came out about a year or two before 911.. So there is evidence that they kind of send messages to one another about doing nasty things to people like let us crash something into some buildings or shoot a jet down with a missile... Of course some psychic people could also be picking up on some of these events subconsciously and writing them down in their story lines and novels.

Here it is!!!

Watch this!!!

It's the most important 10 minutes of video that you'll ever see...

The Lone Gunman, Pilot Episode (Air Date: March 4, 2001)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=384CCzUKHtA

So it came out a few months before 911 and not a few years before it...
My take on it was that it was a very clear warning, but unfortunately... it was ignored...

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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (Mark J. Harper @ Nov 19 2010, 12:31 PM)
It would be easier for THEM to simply show us some of the video tapes from the over 80 cameras that captured the event.

I still believe it was a missile and not a large plane.

Yes it would be easy if they showed us the footage if they had it... Not sure if the good guys confiscated it or the bad guys did. I fully explored the missile scenario and there were just too many holes in it especially the type of launch vehicle that would of had to be used...

There are some rather hostile factions of the government, including the families themselves and what I see here is that the Rothchilds or some of their relative off-shoots went after the Meravingians going so far as to not only cover-up the truth of the event, but also add incriminating evidence or twist it up so much as to make that family look like the ones that were responsible for it... The situation was so bad that we were a heart beat away from coming under martial law if the one family didn't knock it off. Thanks to the stupidity of that one family, there now exists an executive order that gives the President of the United States sole authority to institute martial law which means that if someone sneezes on any President, that President can immediately put us under a state of martial law. That's why everyone is being so cautious around Obama... Obama does belong to one of the rival families of the Meravingians or whatever they're called. The Meravingians were basically the royal family line BTW... House of Windsor, etc...

It was basically let us in or we'll blow you all into little bitty pieces and do worse things than we do in other countries under our influence... They're basically the uncivialized knuckle-dragging extremeists... Power and respect through Violence and Intimidation types and not the Bread and Circus types that we've been being manipulated by...

I know it because I feel all their emotions and it's in my blood... I could of gone down the path of destruction, but I was awakened to the light. I still have the urges, but have basically become civilized...

Though sometimes I must admit that I would just like to... EmoticonHulkMorph.gif and just see how much damage that I could actually do, but I have something that most of them don't...

A EmoticonSpinningHeart.gif and a soul...

Another break...

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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 11:58 AM
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We are all blessed with certain gifts in life - one of mine is to be able to see through someones lies, or to be able to look into their eyes and tell they are lying. I make a bad juror, according to the judicial law.

If I believed the 'Official' tale of 9/11 -- this PuPP's Theories website would not even exist and I would not have lost my free stuff site 8 years ago.
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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 01:24 PM
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Flight 800 was a dress rehersal for us...

Here we go...

Missile scenarios...

Sub based...

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The Cannister Launch System: Missiles from submarines.

Submarine Launched Missiles.

The Submarine Cannister Launch System.

Why Develop And Test An Aegis Guided Sub-launched SAM?

Prior to the present time, ASW aircraft have enjoyed a one-sided game. They get to take all the shots at the sub, and the sub has no choice but to run and try to hide.

Mounting a credible defense against ASW attack from the air presents serious difficulties for the submarine. Even when surfaced, the submarine's shape limits both the effectiveness and range of air-search radars. Surfacing immediately presents a target for a kill from the air in any event. Staying deeply submerged provides the greatest safety for the submarine, but means that the submarine cannot locate and track the attacking aircraft. But the Aegis radars, operating from a safe distance away, provide that function, painting the attacking aircraft, and signaling the cannister launch via VLF or ELF radio.

The advantage of the cannister system is twofold. Launched via conventional torpedo tube, the system can be retrofitted to existing submarines without vertical launch tubes (such as the older 688 boats), and the delay in the cannister's rise to the surface allows the submarine to clear datum, so that the actual missile firing does not reveal the submarine's true location.

Is A Sub-launched SAM Useful For Offensive Tasks?
Clearly a missile that is launched from a direction other than the vector to the Aegis radar greatly complicates the air defense problem of the enemy, by masking the threat direction. Launched from closer in, a sub-launched missile also cuts the reaction time of the enemies air-defense system.

These are two real tactical advantages that the Standard missiles, launched from the Aegis ship itself, do not have.

Submarine VLS.

Meanwhile, its worth noting that the enhanced type 688 submarine includes 12 vertical launch tubes forward of the sail which are admitted to handle Tomahawk and Harpoon. The Mark 41 surface launcher handles Tomahawk and Harpoon and Sea Sparrow and Standards with the same sized tube.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/C..._CANNISTER.html

MISSILE TYPES

The Sea Sparrow Missile

General Characteristics
Primary Function: Air-to-air and surface-to-air radar-guided missile
Contractors: Raytheon Co. and General Dynamics
Power Plant: Hercules MK-58 solid-propellant rocket motor
Thrust: Classified
Speed: More than 2,660 mph (4,256 kph)
Range: More than 30 nautical miles (approximately 55 km)
Length: 12 feet (3.64 meters)
Diameter: 8 inches (20.3 cm)
Wingspan: 3 feet 4 inches (one meter)
Warhead: Annular blast fragmentation warhead, 90 pounds (40.5 kg)
Launch Weight: Approximately 500 pounds (225 kg)
Guidance System: Raytheon semi-active on continuous wave or pulsed Doppler radar energy
Date Deployed: 1976
Unit Cost: $165,400
Inventory: Classified
Aircraft Platforms:
Navy: F-14 and F/A-18;
Air Force: F-4, F-15, and F-16;
Marine Corps: F-4 and F/A-18 http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfi...s/wep-spro.html


Tomahawk Missiles
General Characteristics
Primary Function: long-range subsonic cruise missile for striking high value or heavily defended land targets.
Contractor: Raytheon Systems Company, Tucson, Ariz.
Unit Cost: approximately $600,000 (from the last production contract)
Power Plant: Williams International F107-WR-402 cruise turbo-fan engine; CSD/ARC solid-fuel booster
Length: 18 feet 3 inches (5.56 meters); with booster: 20 feet 6 inches (6.25 meters)
Weight: 2,900 pounds (1,315.44 kg); 3,500 pounds (1,587.6 kg) with booster
Diameter: 20.4 inches (51.81 cm)
Wing Span: 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 meters)
Range: 870 nautical miles (1000 statute miles, 1609 km)
Speed: Subsonic - about 550 mph (880 km/h)
Guidance System: TERCOM, DSMAC, and GPS (Block III only)
Warheads: 1,000 pounds or conventional submunitions dispenser with combined effect bomblets.
Date Deployed: 1986 - IOC; 1994 - Block III; 2003 - Tactical Tomahawk® http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfi...s/wep-toma.html


The Harpoon missile

General Characteristics
Primary Function: Air, surface, or submarine launched anti-surface (anti-ship) cruise missile.
Contractor: The Boeing Company
Power Plant: Teledyne Turbojet and solid propellant booster for surface and submarine launch.
Thrust: 660 pounds (approximately 299.38 kilograms)
Length: 12 feet, 7 inches (3.8354 meters) – air launched; 15 feet (4.572 meters) – surface and submarine launched.
Weight: 1,145 pounds (519.372 kilograms) – air launched; 1,385 pounds (628.236 kilograms) – submarine or ship launched from box or canister launcher.
Diameter: 13.5 inches (34.29 centimeters)
Wing Span: 3 feet (91.44 centimeters) with booster fins and wings.
Range: Over-the-horizon, in excess of 60 nautical miles.
Speed: High Subsonic
Guidance: Sea-skimming cruise monitored by radar altimeter, active radar terminal homing.
Warhead: Penetration high-explosive blast (488 pounds/224 kilograms)
Unit Cost: $720,000
Date Deployed: 1985 http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfi...s/wep-harp.html

That's sub based missiles... Could they have been used against the Pentagon... Nope... All too small... The missile would have to be 13 feet in diameter... I might be going out on a limb for saying this, but as far as I know, there isn't any type of missile launched by any platform that would punch a 13 foot diameter hole in a building.

Any sub based or even ship based missile would have made a small hole as seen in this flight 800 image that shows the hole made by what we consider to be a missile with clear traces of explosive residue... The hole is marked in red.

Side of Flight 800 image
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH...HART/lineup.gif

The largest missiles that we have are the cruise missiles and none of them have a 13 foot diameter. I think that the largest one is about 2 feet in diameter. And if we did have one that big, there wouldn't be nothing left of the Pentagon...

The evidence for a jet hitting the Pentagon and not a missile is that whatever hit the Pentagon slid into it on its belly... Some people say that there was no evidence of a skid mark...

Well here it is...
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/images/image039.jpg

Not only that, but the object in question had wings that took out 5 light poles. Bear in mind that if you backed your SUV up hard enough into one of these poles, they would break rather easily... So not a lot of force is required to knock one down...

Light pole 1
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/images/image035.jpg

Light pole 2
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/images/image036.jpg

Some people also think that it was an Air Force A3 jet that crashed into the Pentagon, but they've all been accounted for... And besides, there's the Pentagon video gif that I really took a good look at and pointed out the Jet shaped object sliding into the Pentagon on its belly...

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/ats...57/camera1b.gif


It would of looked something like this...
http://www.physics911.net/images/c-pentagon_montage.jpg

Diagram of scenario
http://www.physics911.net/images/a-diagram.gif

This is the animated gif that I worked with made from the Pentagon security camera:
http://www.physics911.net/images/e-pentagon_animation.gif

Look on top of the colum-like object and you will see the tail of the jet... and you will also see in the last frame what appears to be a wheel near the left side of the image.

Here's one of the wheels and it was definitely from a 757...

Pentagon 757 Wheel
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_C_vdDiXm0H4/R_Jx...on-wheel-03.jpg

757 Wheel Comparison Photo
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/b757-main-wheel-01.jpg

Both wheels are identical.

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The key features that help to identify the wreckage are further highlighted above. These include:

The shape of the rim around the edge, most of which has been destroyed by the violent impact (highlighted in blue)

A central hole through which a shaft, or hub, attaches the wheel to the rest of the gear (highlighted in green)

Three screw hole projections equally spaced around center hole used to attach a cover over the central hub (highlighted in purple)

A series of 16 bolt holes along the edge of the wheel, note that eight holes are visible over half of the wheel while those on the symmetrical half are obscured (numbered in red)

Eight oval cutouts, six of which are visible while the final two have been covered by surrounding debris (numbered in yellow)
That brings us to the specific comparisons brought up by these questions. Jack Wilson sent a link to the following picture that also included text stating:
"... Government apologists claim the shape of the spokes is the same as that on the 757, and therefore presumably couldn't have come from any other aircraft. Evidently, however, they neglected to notice the fact that the wheel found at the pentagon has only 8 spoke holes, while the wheels used on the pictured 757 have 10. ..."
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This photo was originally posted on an aviation photography site that has since gone defunct, so we have been unable to determine whom the photographer was or the specific aircraft model it comes from. However, it does appear to be a photo of a Boeing 757. Nevertheless, it is not clear why the author claims this wheel has ten cutouts instead of the eight on the Pentagon debris. Parts of eight equally-spaced cutouts are visible on the closest wheel and it seems unlikely that any additional cutouts are hidden behind the protrusion from the center hub. Perhaps the perception of additional cutouts may be due to the angle at which the photo was taken since the lower corner of the wheel is obscured. A better comparison can be found in the following two pictures that provide a clearer view of the main landing gear wheels on the Boeing 757-200.
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Both of these aircraft not only have eight cutout holes but also 16 bolt attachment holes, three center screw holes, and an outer rim matching the Pentagon debris in every detail. According to the official story of what happened on September 11, American Airlines Flight 77 was hijacked by five terrorists and crashed into the Pentagon. The aircraft flown on Flight 77 was a Boeing model number 757-200 with the registration number N644AA. Numerous photos of N644AA were taken while the plane was in service, including the following shot taken just one month before its loss. This picture captures the aircraft shortly after takeoff with its landing gear deployed. Zooming in on the gear, we can see that the main gear wheels of N644AA do indeed have eight cutouts just like the debris found at the Pentagon.


Jet taking off image
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/consp...in-wheel-04.jpg

Another 757-200 Wheel Comparison Image
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/consp...on-wheel-04.jpg

I wish I could remember where my colleagues had posted the Pentagon crash information. In my first post I was pretty much doing it from what I remembered...
I actually supported the missile theory at first, but reconsidered it after looking at the actual evidence to the contrary. And it is as I said, there was a cover-up by one faction of the government to frame the other and proposed some pretty intense scenarios which included the missile theory. If Obama releases the missing security videos then it means that the family that he works for or is a part of were the ones who confiscated them in the first place, leaving the Merivingians with nothing much to prove their innoscense in the matter...


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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 01:45 PM
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When I saw the lawn right after the impact, there should have been debris, lots of debris carried in by the low flying LARGE airliner, but there was not.

The piece of UNCHARRED wreckage, I have the famous photos of it, was not evidence to me that a plane was there, just a piece of uncrumpled uncharred airplane fuselage.

It's ok if you believe what you do - that is our creator given right -- and I've learned that no one can change our minds - except ourselves. Usually upon reflection and re-examining the events, we may come to a different conclusion.

We all know, the bottom line was something smelled bad and it was coming from our govt.

You know I respect your opinion, as you respect mine - Thanks Darmon Ving

But hey --- What did you think of that 'dirty' missile that was launched off of my So Calif coast last week?




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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Mark J. Harper @ Nov 19 2010, 02:58 PM)
If I believed the 'Official' tale of 9/11 -- this PuPP's Theories website would not even exist and I would not have lost my free stuff site 8 years ago.

It's still a conspiracy that was perpetrated by a faction of the ruling class or as Bush called them... His people... and us "The American People...

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Or So He Thought...

It could still be an "Inside Job", but there's no reason to believe that they wouldn't use jets to achieve their objectives and kill thousands of what would seem to be their own people...

More easier to believe that the international bankers were responsible for 911, than some idiotic terrorist cell and even if a cell did it, someone bigger was definitely calling the shots. jam.gif


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Posted: Nov 19 2010, 01:53 PM
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But hey --- What did you think of that 'dirty' missile that was launched off of my So Calif coast last week?

Now that one I'm not sure of yet. Been keeping that one at a low simmer, but it's very possible that a sub from most likely China snuck in as close as they dared to come and fired a missile off over their shoulder as a warning to us... It's something that I would do. That was kind of in the back of my mind when I posted the missile sub launch data...


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I was wondering if you were thinking about that, which is why I asked




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