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Posted: Jan 30 2008, 10:08 PM
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I know somebody will have a quick, one-line response to this but I'm seeking something more in-depth. I started thinking about it when I read this news report (linked from my news post)

Voices made me do it, says schoolgirl who filmed herself 'trying to kill her parents'

A schoolgirl accused of filming herself attempting to murder her parents claimed a voice inside her head insisted that she kill them.

Here are a few selected highlights...

...a voice inside her head insisted that she kill them.

said she never intended to hurt her parents.

She told a jury she pretended to carry out the voice's instructions in the hope it would go away for long enough for her to get psychiatric help.

She described how she had asked for counselling at school when she began hearing the voice - which made derogatory remarks and said she was worthless - in Year 8, and said it sometimes manifested itself as images of dead people in her head.

At first, she said, she managed to make it go away but she gradually had to take more extreme measures - hitting, slapping or taking a blade to herself - to make it disappear.

When she went upstairs, the voice started to talk to her, jabbering "Do it. Do it", she said.

"It gave me an image of my mother with a noose around her neck, my father with a knife in his chest," she said. "They were dead."

She thought about the consequences of what the voice was insisting she did, and contemplated suicide, she said.

She spoke into the camera, but never really planned to carry out the voice's bidding. "I never wanted to hurt them.

"I needed them to see something was wrong and to be able to accept it."

"I made this film so that no-one could say it was only manslaughter, or self defence or anything else. I want full credit for this. I murdered them."

I can't make a definate judgement here because of my inexperience researching cases like this.

It's really the last statement that shocked me into thinking mode. She not only VIDEOTAPES it but makes that bizarre statement. It doesn't gel with her claims.

My thinking is, if she would go through all that trouble to tape it, and she wants credit, why would she turn around and plead guilty? It doesn't make any bloody sense.

I'd welcome your input, members.

A. Do you think she was a mind control victim, or just a loony?

B. If it was mind control, what would be the purpose behind it? What item on teh agenda equals, "let's make a teenager kill her parents."

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Posted: Feb 1 2008, 02:33 PM
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Mind Control

Remember Joan of Arc?

The race which rules the world are masters of the primal human mind and they can manipulate our thoughts in our dreams and even while we are wide awake.

I know this from my own mind control/religious experience of 2001-2002.

In a dream, on May 29th 2002, I was given a vision of a massive tsunami that was coming. But I thought it was for west coast USA.

The voice in my head claimed to be the god of abraham.

That's enough for now... I don't like remembering what I went thru...

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Posted: Mar 18 2008, 04:09 PM
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At face value: schizophrenia.

BUT if you're going at it from the mind control angle: she's an MPD Delta.

The bit about wanting to film herself displays not only disassociation, but a conscious awareness of this disassociation to some degree.

Meaning: she knew she was "not herself" and knew it enough to film it.

lt's also very possible someone wanted to buy this footage for whatever reason, also a programmed part of the action.

0ne of the girls in the Charles Manson Family claimed she felt they were being filmed, like they were part of a movie, while Charlie was with them in the desert, training them to kill.

lt's a known common disassociational illusion to feel one isn't really oneself but rather enacting a scene in a movie. lt is necessary you see, to substitute reality in a sense in order to perform a heinous act such as murder.

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Posted: Mar 22 2008, 05:29 PM
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There are several patents on technologies for making people hear voices in their heads. The most recent one I heard of was a billboard advertisement that targeted people walking by it.

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Restrictions Needed On
EM/RF Mind Control Technology
New Devices That 'Talk' To The Human
Mind Need Debate, Controls
By Eleanor White - Correspondent
The American Reporter - Vol. 6, No. 1290

HAMILTON, Ont., Canada - The recent flap over invasive "X-ray" devices at Los Angeles International Airport that can scan the human body more invasively than ever before is just the tip of a technological iceberg which has been growing for half a century and has now yielded devices literally capable of "broadcasting" directly to the human mind.

Yet, in spite of considerable material published over the past half-century, the arrival of a time when any moderately wealthy person can purchase or have devices made to order that can "talk to" the brain and nervous system, has been met with silence. Indeed, in a response ( to a 1975 request to the National Security Agency (NSA) for information on mind control devices, the NSA said one responsive document obtained from the Russians by the Defense Intelligence Agency could cause "exceptionally grave damage" to national security if released.

The seminal event in the developments that have produced "electronic mind weapons" was the discovery during World War II that radar technicians could hear the buzz of the radar signal in their skulls, no receiver needed, when they worked in close proximity to an energized antenna. Radar signals are a uniform train of short pulses of microwave signal, and the audible effect matches the pulse rate.

This told scientists that by pulsing a radio signal, it is possible to have the signal interact with the brain and nervous system.

Radar hearing was studied on a grant from General Electric in the early 1960s by scientist Dr. Allan Frey, at Cornell University in upstate New York. Dr. Frey's work has been reported in several scientific journals, including the Journal of Applied Physiology, 17(4): 689-692. 1962.

Dr. Frey found that a wide spectrum of "carrier" frequencies, (that is, the "spot on the radio dial" of the test signals,) when pulsed, and from about 125 megahertz (lower TV channel range) well up into the microwave region, could cause buzzes or clicks to be heard by the test subject. If a steady train of uniform, short, sharp pulses was aimed at a test subject's head, a buzz was heard. If a single pulse was transmitted, then the subject heard a pop.

In general, unclassified experiments on human beings lay dormant for the next decade, at least according to information dveloped by a Canadian organization, Citizens Against Human Rights Abuses (CAHRA), has been able to unearth. The pulses needed to place a signal power of about three-tenths of a watt per square centimeter on the subject's skull in order for the signal to be heard.

For ethical scientists, this power level -- about the same as when basking under an infrared heat lamp -- indicated caution. Further studies at the cellular level have turned up sensitivities to certain signals far, far below that level. Dr. Ross Adey of the University of California at Riverside, a leading experimenter in this area, has recently warned ( that "there are important biomedical considerations associated with long term exposure to any environmental factor capable of tissue interactions."

Other scientists studied "microwave hearing" by means of exposing animals to various combinations of carrier frequency, pulse shape, and power level. The animals were tested at the simplest level for "startle" response, by applying a simple pulse or pulse train to a caged or restrained animal.

More invasive unclassified experiments were performed in which electrodes were implanted into the brains of the animals, in areas of the brain where vision, sound, and other perceptive functions were known to reside. These electrodes measured the response of each perception region to different signal types.

These animal studies found that various perception effects are frequency and power dependent. That is logically to be expected, since the size of the animal and its sensory organs and brain region vary in size. Size affects how much of the power from an incoming signal is absorbed, and absorption is necessary to generate effects.

One of the most notable scientists in the animal exper- imental field was Dr. Jose Delgado, Director of Neuropsychiatry at Yale Medical School in the early 1970s. In a segment titled "Special Assignment" on CNN in 1985, Dr. Delgado demonstrated that by mounting a transmitter on an animal, and having received radio signals converted to stimulating pulses fed to implants in the animal's brain, behavior can be dramatically altered. A bull apparently intent on challenging an experimenter with a radio transmitter stopped moving toward the experimenter when the appropriate button on a small transmitter was pressed.

While this was not direct radio signal-to-brain technology, it did demonstrate clearly that the brain can be controlled by electrical stimulation. It also, significantly, demonstrated intent. Demonstration of intent is crucial to anyone interested in arousing public interest in getting electronic mind weapons exposed, debated, and controlled.

Three other effects were discovered during these animal experiments: Window effect, bio-amplification, and bio-detection.

Window effect means that, just as with drugs, there is both a minimum and maximum signal level which will cause a desired effect. Bio-amplification is the more significant phenomenon, as what it means in practical terms is that at just the right frequency and pulse shape, a given effect can be produced with very small power levels, far below power levels required to produce heating. Under grants from the government, Dr. Adey studied how electromagnetic (i.e. "radio") signals interacted with cells down to the molecular level.

Bio-amplification also makes possible signals which do not interfere with radio and TV appliances, and which are extremely hard to detect. Hopping these small signals around in a band of effectiveness makes then virtually impossible to detect.

Bio-detection means that a cell is not simply "stimulated" at a certain signal frequency, but can actually behave according to "modulation" applied to that signal. The old crystal set radios are one of the simplest detectors of "modulation". When voice is superimposed on a steady carrier frequency, that variation in the signal is called the modulation. The crystal set extracts the voice and causes the attached headphones to reproduce the original voice.

Headphones alone cannot respond to frequencies as high as, say, AM broadcast band signals, and the detector, the crystal or diode, converts the radio signal into a voice signal. Cells can do the same thing. This leads to the next stage in radar-hearing human experimentation: The successful transmission of, first, morse code, and then voice, to a human test subject.

That milestone was apparently been achieved a quarter of a century ago. In the Journal of the American Psychological Association in March 1975, Dr. Don R. Justesen wrote:

"Communication has in fact been demonstrated. A. Guy (Note 1), a skilled telegrapher, arranged for his father, a retired railroad telegrapher, to operate a key, each closure and opening of which resulted in a pulse of microwave energy. By directing the radiations at his own head, complex mess- ages via the Continental Morse Code were readily received by Guy.

"Sharp and Grove (note 2) found that appropriate modulation of microwave energy can result in "wireless" and "receiverless" communication of speech. The recorded by voice on tape each of the single-syllable words for digits between 1 and 10. The electrical sine-wave analogs of each word were then processed so that each time a sine wave crossed zero reference in the negative direction, a brief pulse of microwave energy was triggered.

"By radiating themselves with these "voice modulated" microwaves, Sharp and Grove were readily able to hear, identify, and distinguish among the 9 words. The sounds heard were not unlike those emitted by persons with artificial larynxes."

This early '70s success forms the basis for the powerful mind weapons that are still classified today. This writer makes no judgement here as to the truth of the allegations of CAHRA's 300 members, who claim to have been targetted by devices based on technology like this. Pain, manipulation of body parts, and hypnotic effects have all been reported, with a high degree of sameness among those reporting such effects.

However, the experimental results above make it plain that the means to communicate electronically with the brain and nervous system have existed for some time, outside the classified realm.

Audible words may be transmitted, as described above. A more recent technology can be coupled to "microwave hearing" to produce a signal which can carry vocal content which is not consciously audible, but is "audible" to the human mind. This is called "SSSS" or "S-QUAD" or "Silent Sound Spread Spectrum" technology.

The first unclassified patent found by CAHRA is U.S. Patent 5,159,703, by Dr. Oliver Lowery, dated October 27, 1992. This technology converts a hypnotist's voice to non-consciously-audible ultrasound, which can be sent using microwave hearing, or piggybacked on to commercial broadcast sound. This powerful combination of technologies can be used to apply hypnosis, undetectably over months and years.

Britain's ITV News Service, in March of 1991, reported the use of ultrasound carried via a commercial FM channel (100 MHz) to entrain the brains of Iraqi troops to pulse rates set to produce despair, during the Gulf War. Clearly both means and motive exist to use technologies developed over the past half-century. But has there also been a motive for criminal use of such devices?

Potential For Abuse

To recap, new devices which can "talk to" the human brain and nervous system are a reality. They have, in their classified form, been a reality at least since Dr. Joseph Sharp's successful transmission of voice using pulsed microwave radio signals in 1973.

In the first part of this article, scientific research was summarized describing the events which led to Dr. Sharp's success. The chain of events was begun with the World War II discovery that radar signals can be "heard" buzzing within the skull of technicians working in close proximity to energized equipment.

Studies on animals, and Dr. Allan Frey's human experiments at Cornell University showed that this phenomenon is both frequency and power level dependent. Also discovered were that (a) cells assist in amplifying radio signals at certain frequencies, and (b) cells can not only respond to a radio signal, but can actually "detect," that is, "decode" any modulation, such as voice, superimposed on the basic carrier signal.

Finally, brief reference was made to a form of sound conversion, "Silent Sound," in which both mood setting ("brain entrainment") signals and ultrasound voice facsimile can be used to undetectably communicate with the human brain. The radio signal or "microwave hearing" phenomenon can carry "Silent Sound," or, "Silent Sound" can be carried on top of an audible radio or TV sound broadcast.

This capability to carry inaudible "voice" or "mood" signals sets the stage for undetectable and repetitive hypnosis. Although the full details remain classified, the British ITV wire service received reports that the U.S. military used Silent Sound, piggybacked on FM broadcasts to Iraqi troops, to set them up for a quick surrender.

To this point, then, we can see that the potential for extremely invasive, undetectable, and unethical use of these technologies exists. Being undetectable and easy to suspend when witnesses are present, the world's justice systems can offer no remedy should the equipment be used against citizens in their homes and communities.

The question now is: "How likely is it that the unethical, involuntary, aggressive or voyeuristic use of these technologies has happened, is happening, or may be happening, by those who possess these devices?"

To evaluate this likelihood, one must answer this question: "Why would anyone use invasive, silent electronic equipment to both cause pain and discomfort, or, to read the state of mind, including said-to-self vocal thoughts and images, on a non-volunteer subject?"

One word sums the answer up quite thoroughly: "MKULTRA." MKULTRA was originally a collection of 149 psychological warfare and interrogation experiments commissioned in the 1950s by the CIA. These experiments were spurred into existence by the "brainwashing" tactics used on Korean POWs, which involved torture, sensory deprivation, and drugs.

MKULTRA planners decided that for brainwashing and other types of "mind control" activity, it was essential that involuntary test subjects be used. (No doubt, too, that volunteers for such horrible experiments would be nearly impossible to recruit.)

Among CAHRA members, and a parallel organization named ACHES-MC (Advocacy Committee for Human Experimentation Survivors - Mind Control), are severely and seemingly permanently mentally damaged survivors of the kidnap/institutional/drugging/torture forms of MKULTRA activity.

Most of the survivors' torment ceased shortly after the exposure of the non-electronic atrocities, by the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearings, chaired first by Senator Frank Church, then by Senator Inouye in the late 1970s. None of the perpetrators of those atrocities were ever brought to trial.

However, even though the perpetrators were not punished, and the neuro-electromagnetic experiments were not brought to light, the MKULTRA experience demonstrates undeniably that a modern, "civilized," western country which places a high value on freedom, still harbors a motive pool capable of unspeakable cruelty.

Add to the MKULTRA experience the continuing revelations of individuals who prey on children (Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy, for example) and it becomes clear that once invasive electronic devices fall into the hands of society's "baddest apples," the devices will be used in the worst possible ways. That is historical certainty, not speculation.

To sum up: We have shown that both the means and the will do exist, and have existed for some time, to carry out what the 300 members of CAHRA and ACHES-MC report.

But there is even more cause for concern: The basic technologies to inject long-term silent hypnosis (which can be used to generate hypnotic body pain) and to read sub-vocalized word-thoughts and even images seen by the target's eyes, can be bought or had built by the average millionaire. Not all "millionaires" are entirely ethical or altruistic.

Here is a list of technologies and their characteristics which can be had by the wealthy at this point in time:

Through-wall, through-clothing, undetectable passive radar scanners from Millivision Corp., Northamptom, Mass. This item also allows perpetrators to see if witnesses or test equipment is set up, and allows the perpetrators to shut down, rather than be detected. Radar-based life detectors, used for rescue and law-enforcement, but also available to stalkers and pedophiles. Can also "illuminate" a dwelling's indoor areas for the radar scanners above, for better visibility. Simple "brain rhythm entrainment" machines, which are transmitters pulsing at rates which can alter moods without the target realizing a signal is aimed at them. (The first of which was used during the Korean War, the Russian "LIDA" machine.) Involuntary voice-to-skull transmitters, capable of forcing a neighbor to listen to inescapable sounds while trying to sleep. Modified telephone voice converters, making a hypnotist's voice inaudible to the target's hearing sense, but still audible to certain parts of the mind. Can be transmitted using the pulsed microwave voice-to-skull transmitters. This "silent sound" equipment can also be transmitted over cable TV to the intended target, or over the target's favorite radio channel.

For the more determined aggressive device owner, a ruse involving less-than-ethical doctors can be set up where the new Applied Digital Solutions Inc. satellite-trackable implants can be surreptitiously placed during surgery for other conditions, resulting in the whereabouts of the targetted individual being known at all times to the perpetrator. This type of atrocity lends itself more to large organizations like government agencies or defense and intelligence contractors; and for such agencies this is not difficult to arrange.

What can be done? What should be done? CAHRA is a non-profit organization, meaning, by law anyone speaking or writing on behalf of CAHRA may not attempt to influence legislation either directly or indirectly by way of influencing voters. CAHRA's role is to supply information to others, that others may independently take action they see as appropriate.

Speaking here as Eleanor White, world citizen, and not as an agent of CAHRA, I suggest that the European Parliament's resolutions passed on January 28, 1999, be also passed by the U.S. Congress and the Canadian Parliament. Excerpts from those resolutions follow:

Resolution adopted by the European Parliament, 28.1.99 Environment, security and foreign affairs A4-0005/99:

23. Calls on the European Union to seek to have the new 'non-lethal' weapons technology and the development of new arms strategies also covered and regulated by international conventions; ...

27. Calls for an international convention introducing a global ban on all developments and deployments of weapons which might enable any form of manipulation of human beings;

Impetus for making such resolutions can be derived from a speech by Jean-Pierre Changeux, of the Paris Pasteur Institute, published in the prestigious scinetific journal Nature in January, 1998:

But neuroscience also poses potential risks, he said, arguing that advances in cerebral imaging make the scope for invasion of privacy immense. Although the equipment needed is still highly specialized, it will become commonplace and capable of being used at a distance, he predicted. That will open the way for abuses such as invasion of personal liberty, control of behaviour and brainwashing. These are far from being science-fiction concerns, said Changeux, and constitute "a serious risk to society".

It is hoped the reader will take away from this article the need to get this matter of weapons-capable electronic devices on to the agendas of those we elect and pay to defend our nations from involuntary experimentation and atrocities.

Eleanor White is an engineer and technical advisor to the Ontario-based Citizens Agaionst Human Rights Abuses.

This article was recently published by the University of Technology, (

and is posted here with thanks to the Andrew Searle:





The Mind Switch refers to the technology that has been developed which allows a person to turn on and off an electrical appliance, such as a desk lamp or TV in 2-3 seconds using EEG signals, without training.

Proportional control, such as turning up or down the volume of a radio is also possible with the technology. This research is being carried at the University of Technology, Sydney (UTS).

Background - General

Early in 1994 while studying the response of the brain to environmental factors Professor Ashley Craig and Mr Paul McIsaac of the Department of Health Sciences at UTS, noticed an effect which appears to be common among all persons.

That effect is an increase in a particular brain signal when a person closes his/her eyes for more than one second.

The important question that Ashley and Paul then asked was could this effect be used to do something useful?, ie - could the control of the brain signal be used, in turn, to control something else?

At this stage Ashley contacted Professor Tony Moon, the Dean of Science at University of Technology, Sydney (UTS), to find out if anyone could help answer the technical questions and design a system that might exploit the apparent change in the signal level when a person closes his/her eyes.

Professor Moon introduced Ashley to Assoc Prof Les Kirkup who is a associate professor in the department of Applied Physics at UTS, who has experience in developing electronics and instrumentation. It was thought he could offer important input to the project.

He was initially skeptical that signals as small as those that are present on the scalp, (where electrodes are placed to pick up brain activity) could be detected reliably and analysed sufficiently quickly to allow activation of an external device, such as a lamp or TV.

The data that had been gathered on signal levels with eyes open and eyes closed showed that a significant increase occurred in the 8-13Hz part of the "brain spectrum" commonly referred to as the "alpha" region.

Les built a detection, discrimination and analysis system based on Ashley and Paul's data and, much to his surprise at least, the first person (Lucy) connected to the system showed the capability of operating a switch which could control an electrical appliance.

Background - Technical

Serious work done on brain signals began with Berger in 1929 [Berger 1967]. Since that time the acquisition and analysis of brain signals, referred to as Electroencephalography (EEG) has advanced to such a state that EEG is regularly used to assist in the diagnosis of schizophrenia, epilepsy and brain tumours. [Geddes and Baker, 1989].

EEG has also been used in biofeedback studies in which subjects may learn to modify their EEG signals in response to visual representation of their EEG signals. This control usually take weeks or months to learn and is not highly reliable.

The system we have developed does not rely on any learned skill by an individual. It simply requires a person to close his/her eyes for more than 1 second to effect sufficient change in the signals levels to allow for the reliable operation of a switch.

It turns out that it has been known for many years that increase in signal level occur upon eye closure, but this is the first example (to our knowledge) of the recognition of its potential and the exploitation of the effect.

The system used to detect the change in signals consists of amplifiers, filters and other signal processing elements (full details are still classified at the moment!). As there are other sources which can generate signals which can interfere with brain signals (and hence cause intermittent switching on and off of appliances) we have developed a noise suppression system which eliminates the effect of those noise sources.

This feature is very important as we are currently developing the technology for disabled persons (we have a three year grant from the Motor Accident Authority of New South Wales, MAA) and reliability is a major issue.

The funding from MAA has allowed us to appoint Mr Andrew Searle who has become a key figure in the technical developments regarding the Mind Switch. In addition Mr Perez Moses is developing new noise suppression techniques to be applied in this work.


Berger, H. 1967. On the electroencephalogram of man (trans. by P. Gloor).EEG Clin. Neurophysiol., Suppl. 28:1-350

Geddes, L. A. and Baker, L. E. 1989. Principles of applied biomedical instrumentation 3rd ed. (Wiley, New York): pp726-727

Copyright 2000 Joe Shea The American Reporter. All Rights Reserved.

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