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  Posted: Oct 7 2004, 03:12 AM
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Hi All.
I think the GLP post was amonst the stuff i deleted when i did a folder tidy up no can find.
But here is some stuff from one of the Couple of sites i did keep.
It is Both scientifis and has some alternative in their as well.

Simple Models of Climate
http://www.aip.org\history\climate\simple.htm
What determines the climate? Explanations proliferated-models for climate built out of little more than basic physics, a few equations aided by hand - waving. All began with a traditional picture of a stable system, self-regulated by natural feedbacks. A few nineteenth-century scientists suggested that a change in the level of carbon dioxide gas might cause an ice age global warming, but most scientists thought the gas could not possibly have such effects. Yet climate did change, as proven by past ice ages. Some pointed out that feedbacks did not necessarily bring stability: in particular, changes in snow cover might amplify rather than dampen a climate shift. In the 1950s, an ingenious (although faulty) model involving changes in
the Arctic Ocean suggested a disturbing possibility of arbitrary shifts. Experiments with fluids made that more plausible. Apparently the interlinked system of atmosphere, ice sheets, and oceans could swing in regular cycles or even in random jerks. Worse, around 1970 highly simplified computer models raised the specter of a catastrophic climate runaway. In the 1980s, the center of research shifted to large and complex computer models. These did not show a runaway, but reinforced what many simpler models had been suggesting. The next century would probably see significant greenhouse warming. Meanwhile the simple models remained useful for
exploring questions that the large models could not handle.
Basic general greenhouse effect ideas and observations are covered in the core essay on the Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect. Technical calculations on how radiation and heat move through levels of the atmosphere are described in a supplementary essay on Basic Radiation Calculations and for the large-scale computer work, see the essay on General Circulation

Models of the Atmosphere
"Meteorology is a branch of physics," a weather expert remarked in 1939, "and physics makes use of two powerful tools: experiment and mathematics. The first of these tools is denied to the meteorologist and the second does not prove of much use to him in climatological problems." So many interrelated factors affected climate, he explained, that you couldn't write it all down mathematically without making so many simplifying assumptions that the result would never match reality. It wasn't even possible to calculate from first principles the average temperature of a place, let alone how the temperature might change in future years. And "without numerical values our deductions are only opinions.
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Posted: Oct 7 2004, 12:19 PM
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Hello you guys,

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Blue Eyes, I,ve been obsesed with that for the past seven years, just starting to chill out now......


What made you start to chill out? I’m a bit curious about that since I just recently started to get INTO this obsession...

It’s a fact that there have been prior pole shifts and ice ages. And now earth changes are just escalating. Even though we don’t know what happened prior to the other pole shifts (we don't know what signs to look for I guess) I have this bad feeling about the decade to come… especially when I follow the animal anomalies around the world – animals are the first to recognize that something is about to happen.

Hmm… even though I wish you are right…


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  Posted: Oct 8 2004, 01:42 AM
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I think you would make a great beach babe ..
HHHMM, a ciggie smoking CAMEL.
In A Bikini, that i'd love to see.
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Posted: Oct 8 2004, 01:56 AM
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I think the GLP post was amonst the stuff i deleted when i did a folder tidy up no can find. But here is some stuff from one of the Couple of sites i did keep.
It is Both scientifis and has some alternative in their as well.


Morning Hoss, and thank you for the link:o)
I've printed it so now I have something to do this weekend as well. wink.gif
>>laughing<<

BTW - I think Donna has left the building - I may have to drop by the refugee camp to say hi I think...

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  Posted: Oct 8 2004, 03:00 AM
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Yep B E.
She is over at the REFUGEEE CAMP,
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Posted: Nov 7 2004, 01:59 PM
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I saw you were online, so I just wanted to say good morning to you:o)

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  Posted: Nov 10 2004, 06:52 PM
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Hi All, hi B E.
Hows things, At least here is more connectable that GLP, now GLP is refusing to let me in?? Their's a de-camping in the air upsetforgiven.gif
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  Posted: Nov 11 2004, 04:03 AM
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Oh well, i've found an old site or two.
A few new uns'. Guess i cannot complain.
GLP seems to be working dunno for how long tho'.
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Hi, MET! You wrote:

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I dug out an old copy of 98SE, and am using it, so far everything seems ok, it seems to do all the things I use the compter for, mostly surfing the net & burning cd's.


Wise that you saved it! I offered to buy, off a lady, her copy of 98 for $100. After I told her it was the safest program Microsoft put out, she declined. Me and my big mouth. As for cookies, you will still get them, but if you right click on IE, you will get a button that will delete your cookies, and another that will delete your surfing history. Checking to be sure, you have a cookie folder.

Best to have some sort of protection like a firewall, and one like Ad-aware. I'd rather be safe than sorry. You never know.

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  Posted: Nov 11 2004, 06:40 PM
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YEP, it sure do. Just tried GLP the spamming is back. Quetion is tho??
IF WE HAVE TO DISABLE Firewalls? is GLP worth the risk.
As it is apperantly only GLP with a problem, everything else is working??
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  Posted: Nov 14 2004, 02:24 AM
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Hi Alll

A Nice Update

Australia will be in a good and bad situation re the pole shift.
Safe Locations
Dialog with the Zetas on the Relative Safety
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during and after the 2004 Pole Shift.

. The western 2/3 will go suddenly under water, due to the plate shared with Indian sliding under the Himalayas. However, the eastern 1/3 along with New Zealand will benefit from this, raising slightly out of the water, gaining land above where the melting ice caps will place sea level within two years after the pole shift. The eastern half of Australia and New Zealand benefit from this plate movement, lifting up as India is plungedunder the Himalayas. Thus, even with the rising seas from melting poles, the mountains in eastern
Australia and New Zealand will afford safe living areas. Due to its attachment to the plate including India, the continent of Australia will both suffer and benefit from the coming pole shift. During those moments when the Earth's crust stops moving, after having been dragged along with the core during the pole shift, the western half of Australia will suddenly go under the waves. This will seem, to the stunned residents, as though a tidal wave were steadily moving inland, and where the crest of the wave will not at first be high, the waters will just keep rising until all not afloat are drown. Those in boats may survive, though there is risk of capsizing, and they will find themselves out at sea and the washingabout that will occur afterwards.

Cape York
The Cape York Peninsula on Australia is vulnerable from several angles during the pole shift. First, it is proximal to the many volcanoes in Indonesia, and will be awash with hot ash, being downwind, for decades after the shift.
Second is stands in the wash-way between the Pacific and Indian Oceans, and the water rushing to and fro will cause high and rapidly moving flood tides along its coasts.
Third, it will be inundated by a flood of human refuges prior to the pole shift, and will be the wash point where these desperate people arrive by boat after the shift, from any survivors in Indonesia
Fourth, portions of the peninsula will go under water within two years after the shift, due
to polar melting. Going beyond these matters, however, those who do settle there after the shift will find easy access to ocean fishing and an agreeable climate.
Queensland Province
Where the highlands in the eastern half of Australia will remain above water during the shift and
after the polar melt, and will stretch along the new equator, survivors will find their life affected by which end of these highlands they are situated upon. The current will flow toward the former
Antarctica pole, and no inhabited lands lie in that direction, and thus Australia will seem like a last hope to cling to for those in boats. Those in the Queensland province will find the current, flowing as it does today in an easterly direction, coming toward them from the countries of Indonesia and Java where survivors often have the their islands melting under them as the seas rise from the melting poles. In addition, survivors afloat when the shift and ocean sloshing stops will find the current carrying them in an easterly direction, to Australia. Queensland will thus find itself with all manner of flotsam arriving on its beaches - survivor's afloat, dead and bloated bodies, and anything washed from the cities or countryside that has stayed afloat.

Brisbane
Cities lying along the east coast of Australia, such as Brisbane and Sydney, will find their life
radically changed as the pole shift approaches. Being on high ground, predicted to rise even higher during the shift, they will be seen as a refuge for many situated in the Pacific who see the land sinking under their feet due to rising ocean waters. Australia is a land of hardy folk, but the newcomers who arrive will be the wealthy and soft, used to a servant class and demanding service.Where the cities themselves, like all coastal cities, will experience tidal waves and tidal bore into ravines, and will not survive beyond being a shell of it's former self, the mountains surrounding these cities offers refuge from the waves and hurricane force wind. Survival communities forming in these mountains, on the fringes of these former cities along the east coast of Australia, will find themselves burdened with the whining formerly wealthy. These situations result in one of two outcomes - either the unwelcome citizen' s are ejected and starve or are shot, or they drag the group down with their demands until all starve. Since the cities themselves will not survive the devastation, remaining there or near there during the shift is hardly advisable.

Victoria Province
The highlands in the eastern half of Australia will remain above water during the shift and after the polar melt, and will stretch along the new equator the equatorial sun, rapidly melting. The tipping of the Indio-Australian plate under the Himalayas will raise eastern Australia some 300 feet in sea level elevation, reducing the amount of land going under water as the existing poles melt. Migration of wild animals from the rapidly flooding western half of Australia can be expected, as they will swim and run toward land, which will be eastern Australia. As in Alaska, where wild bears will become a problem for survivors, formerly civilized areas of Victoria may find surprising and unexpected neighbors. Being situated on the high land bridge connecting the highlands of Queensland to Victoria, potentially crowded situations where wildlife and new immigrants collide with existing residents could also occur, all hungry and desperate and driven by fear. Keeping a low profile so as not to attract unwanted attention is a means of dealing with a human horde, but wildlife finds food by smell and will not be so fooled. Thus, survivor camps in Victoria should prepare to defend against wild predators, and hide from human predators.

Sydney
Where the east coast of Australia will bounce up, due to the tipping of the plate upon with Australia rests, during the pole shift, it will be subject to onslaughts of tidal waves during the shift itself. Water movement during the week of rotation stoppage will cause the waters of the Pacific to move toward the poles, and after the shift back to the new equator when rotation starts again. This will cause water to move from the existing South Pole to the new equator, where Sydney will find itself, through the channel between Australia and New Zealand. This water will rush along what is now the east coast of Australia. In addition to this water movement, there is the compression of the Pacific, which will push water up along any coast line directly bordering the Pacific. Without the protection of any islands, most of the east coast of Australia will experience a direct assault. With at least two large current flows during the shift, swirling will occur, a serious danger to any boats and likely to create unpredictable tidal waves assaulting the coast. Residents of Sydney are advised to leave their beloved city for high ground during this time, if they hope to survive.

Melbourne
Melbourne lies on a southern tip of Australia, pointing toward the South Pole. In this regard it
needs to take extra precautions over and above the other coastal cities along Australia's eastern
coast. Melbourne has many advantages - being on a plate that will tip up, slightly, during the shift, and being close to the sea for fishing opportunities and snuggled within mountains for safety from floods and tidal waves. However, there will be extraordinarily strong ocean currents rushing between the Pacific, which will be compressed and need to empty, and the Indian Ocean. This affects any city directly along the currents. Boats will disappear in a wink in the flow, and not surface for days. The water may be somewhat higher than normal just prior to the shift, too, as the stagnating earth will pool her waters at the poles, not the equator, when rotation stops. Thus, the rush of water away from the Pacific will not only be forceful, but high, rather than low - a double danger.

Adelaide
Adelaide lies on the coast, close to the mouth of a large river draining the mountains of eastern
Australia, and on a continent that is destined to tip and sink under the waves so that the western half is no longer land. With all this against it, can it be safe? Surprisingly, it will do remarkably well. As the plate upon which Australia rests tips, submersing the western side, the eastern side will rise above the waves, resting at a higher altitude after the shift. However, as with all lands close to the coast, caution against tidal wave sloshing and rivers flooding over their banks should be taken. Go inland, up into the mountains, and well away from any valleys that could take the overflow from swollen rivers or themselves fill up during a downpour. The city should stand, aside from old buildings that will crumble at the slightest quake, and may provide a good base for fishing boats for Survivors. After the polar melt, with the ocean much closer than before, Adelaide, or at least her highlands, will be on the coast.

Perth
Perth, situation on the extreme western edge of Australia, will be under water long before the hour of the shift. The pressure during the week of rotation stoppage will have pulled land along the north Atlantic down by 150 feet due to the core continuing to move while the crust is frozen in place by the magnetic attraction of the rapidly approaching comet. This pressure continues around the globe, with the Red Sea and the lands of Pakistan being stretched and the point where the land becomes reluctant to compress, where India is being squeezed under the Himalayas, feeling this pressure. Thus, the plate holding both India and Australia is likely to begin tipping early, causing a drop in sea level even before the shift. Combined with the tendency of water to leave the Equator and move to the poles during that week of rotation stoppage, this increase in sea level will have the residents of Perth with few places to go except inland into the neighboring mountains or onto boats. They will take the latter, due to flooding roads, and thus when the shift itself occurs, will be roiled about with ocean tides moving in different directions, often creating giant whirlpools. Some residents in boats will survive, eventually washing up onto the shores of Australia, now inland and filled with flotsam and hapless survivors from as far away as Indonesia trying to gain a foothold on land. Thus, survivors of Perth, who will be few, will find themselves moving from one horrific
drama to another.

Tasmania
Below, the eastern portion of Australia and sharing, a spot. of the same end of the plate
That will tip up during the shift as India dives down below the Himalayas, will benefit from the shift in that it will get an increase in elevation over its present elevation. Tasmania can expect to be some 1,000 feet higher than present, thought the polar melt will return that gain by almost 700 feet. The climate will change to be more tropical, lined up closer to the new equator, so
vegetative growth on the island will eventually be more lush after some decades.

New Zealand
Where New Zealand will remain well above sea level after the shift and polar melts, it will be
subject to the same forces during the shift as all other lands. Tidal waves will assault its coastlines, and where cliffs or mountain ranges lie along a coastline, tidal bore can occur, bringing rushing water to a height not expected. As New Zealand is a land of mountain ranges, stay well inland during the shift, returning to the coastlines only some days after the shift has occurred and the sloshing oceans and high tides have settled. Where New Zealand lies along a fault line, and thus. Has active volcanoes and geothermal area, due to the tipping up of the plate New Zealand lies on, pressure will be reduced during the hour of the shift, not increased, and the incidence of exploding volcanoes and the like lessened for this reason. In essence, there will be a new space under the tipped plate for lava to fill during the shift, which will reduce the press of lava upward. Where New Zealand rests primarily on the plate shared with Australia, a fault line runs to the east and to some degree under the land, and this will separate. When the Pacific shortens, the plate to the east of New Zealand will drop below the tipping plate shared with India, bolstering the tip up that New Zealand will experience. Tipping a plate that plunges, on one end, under a mountain range, will be in the main a continuation of what is already happening. However, for the several hundred feet that Indian will drop below its current sea level, there will be a commensurate raise at the far end of the plate shared with Australia and New Zealand, with the major benefit of this raise at the New Zealand end. New Zealand can expect, after all the sloshing about has stopped, to find itself 500 feet above the current sea level. With the melting poles expected to raise the sea level between 650 and 700 feet, this gain will disappear, but what the raised land does mean for New Zealand is that more of it's land will be above water after the poles melt, than elsewhere in the world.

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Cities along the coastline in New Zealand, such as Christchurch and Nelson and Auckland, will
find themselves in an unpredictable position during the day of the shift, when the waters surrounding their island country. At any given moment, the water might be migrating toward the existing South Pole (during rotation stoppage). Returning from the existing South Pole (during rotation restart), pushing in directly from the Pacific or rushing. Between Australia and New Zealand (during the hour of shift due to shortening of the Pacific). Coming around Australia from the Indian Ocean (as water in motion pouring through Indonesia into the Indian Ocean), or as a reaction to any of these forces due to the tendency of water to slosh. Thus, those in New Zealand are advised to seek safety in the mountains, well above an wave action, until equilibrium in the oceans has returned, a period of some days.

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Curious if there was any mention of the Alice, in the pole shift scenario. I'd think that they would stay high and dry.


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  Posted: Nov 14 2004, 07:57 PM
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HI ALL, HI GUEST.
Tis, hard to say what will happen if the Earthchanges as ZETA predicts no Alice will be wet ""IF"". I remember one about Australia i read in the 1960's> That was most of the outback would return to ocean with a ring of islands. Most of VIC, NSW and QUEENS LAND would be okay.
TRouble is today the continant is not were it was therefore differant scenerio.
The inland out back is also predicted to become an inland freshwater paradise. The Early inland explores claimed it was and there is a lot of evidence to support the claims. Remember Australia is on of the dryest contienents on the planet with great extrems.
Whar-ever happens i very dependant upon what exactly happens, which is something we will not know untill that manifests.
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Hey Hoss, you haven't let Dommy drive you from GLP have you????????

Your new av looks a lot like Zen Do Kai Karate's Red Dragon.....

MET (Your fans still want you over at GLP)

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  Posted: Nov 15 2004, 03:01 AM
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It's more than just DOMI . there are no good threads any-more and just a lot of plain attack on people plus the not getting in and the drop-outs. I am petty easy going but the mindles drivel is sooner or later going to get to me. Plus the one person signing in under many AV's the forum just to drivel shit morethan annoying with the rest of the probs/ , today it dropped out once to often.
This has beencoming for a whille.
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