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  Posted: Oct 18 2007, 04:59 PM
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I received this in email...

Since the Pledge of Allegiance and The Lord's Prayer are not allowed in most public schools anymore Because the word "God" is mentioned.... A kid in Arizona wrote the attached

NEW School prayer

Now I sit me down in school,
Where praying is against the rule.
For this great nation under God,
Finds mention of Him very odd.

If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow,
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise,
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

For praying in a public hall,
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.

We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible,
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's "inappropriate" to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such "judgments" do not belong.

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.

It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!


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  Posted: Oct 19 2007, 10:44 AM
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Funny, but mostly frightening, because it's true. I have family still in various school systems, and they've described these things to me, although without such eloquence.

However, a wise man once pointed out that if we set aside time in our public schools for every religion to say aloud a prayer, we would find our schools setting aside time away from learning (the primary purpose of the thing), and instead we would try to appease every sensibility with an alotted time to pray to whatever deity the students wished.

It doesn't take a stretch of the imagination to see that this could degenerate into something that should be viewed as silly, but could spiral into something truly repugnant. (To use an example of a much less pressing issue, look at the Ellen DeGeneres Dog flap in recent news. People have lost their minds over this!)

In addition, the thing would be disruptive. Let's face it, people "discover" new religions all the time, and students may abuse this time to keep from going to class or just to get attention (the class clown begins a prayer to Giggles, the God of Humor!). OK, this may be quite a stretch, but you get the point...

Perhaps we could examine the issue from another view point:

Do we here about this sort of thing in the workplace?

Yes, but not with the frothing, frantic, furor that the subject generates in our schools.


Well, some might point out that our children are impressionable, and therefore we as parents don't want them exposed to religions that for whatever reason (good, bad, OR benign) might disturb the status quo of our carefully crafted environment of the home.

Sound like utter crap? Not to some.

Others argue that the system is supressing our children at an early age, teaching them to remain silent about their beliefs. That such things, while in concept, are acceptable (at least outwardly by some), but in practice are unacceptable, or even offensive to others.

Again with the groans of disbelief? This sort of thing has been said...

I see points of truth in both statements, but let's get back to the workplace:

In this environment, everyone is assumed to be mature, stable, and most especially; compliant. When was the last time you met a compliant teenager? I think that part of the problem stems from the fact that those involved are immature, rebellious, and in varying degrees, unstable. Kids don't like being told what to do. I didn't, and chances are you could think of a few times that you didn't either.

Of course they will be vocal about these things. Youth is notorious for being very verbally opposed to what they see as wrong! They're being oppressed! (This argument is heard resoundingly from BOTH sides ironically...!)

In contrast, I once worked with a French Muslim who every day during his lunch break, would leave the premises to pray in the fashion his deity required.
No arguing, no publicity, no problem...

If it is that important, pray before school. Pray during lunch in a quiet corner to yourself. Pray DURING school in a home-school environment.

I also suspect some of our patented "child-worship" in all of this, too. At what age does a Human Being deserve less love or attention than a child?

I guess my ultimate point here is that public school is not the place for the worship of your chosen deity or faith. It is where you go to learn. For eight hours a day, five days a week, anyone should be able to set aside their religious convictions WITHOUT feeling compromised and simply GO TO SCHOOL TO LEARN.

Or I could just be crazy...


This post has been edited by EvilMonk on Oct 19 2007, 10:56 AM

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