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Posted: Feb 7 2006, 03:29 PM
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   I know what your thinking. He must be out of his mind. And I do not blame you for having that opinion, however let me present the facts to you before you decide the case of my sanity. I cannot say with conviction that the moon is actually a space ship housing "aliens", I have never been there. So this remains in the murky world of theories, however it is not a theory devoid of any proof or logic. Quite the opposite actually.... 

                                The moon has been observed by humanity for our entire recorded history. This object is identified in the aspect that it has a name and we know its there, even so it cannot yet be disqualified as a UFO. Even after six visits to the moon by US astronauts between 1969 and 1972, the moon remains an enigma to scientists in many regards. Scientists had hoped that by studying the moon they could solve some of the mysteries surrounding the formation of our solar system. Before the Apollo missions, the moon was thought to be the Rosetta Stone of the planets. Yet after the missions, lunar scientists were no closer to answering even the most basic of questions about the moon, even on how it formed. Despite 842 pounds of rocks and soil samples, photos and video tapes, and five nuclear powered scientific stations, the mysteries are still there. Indeed, what we have learned in the wake of the missions has only raised more questions.

                               Consider what writer Earl Ubell wrote: " The lunar Rosetta stone remains a mystery. The moon is more complicated than anyone expected; it is not simply a kind of billiard ball frozen in space and time as many scientists had believed. Few of the fundemental questions have been answered, but the Apollo rocks and recordings have spawned a score of mysteries, a few truly breath stopping." What are these "breath stopping" mysteries? For one, some of the lunar rocks have been found to be 5.3 billion years old. The earth by contrast is thought to be around 4.6 billion years old, while the oldest rocks on the earth are only about 3.5 billion years of age. I suppose the discrepency lies in that the rocks did not formed until the earth had cooled sufficiently. This mystery is compounded by the fact that the dust in which the rocks were located was found to be another billion years older than the rocks themselves. Another discovery was that the moon rocks were a completely different composition than the dust in which they were found. If the dust and the rocks were being formed by impacts, they would be the same. It is a problem without an easy answer. 

                               Another puzzle the moon rocks presented was the fact that they were found to be magnetized. The reason this is so strange is that the moon does not have a substantial magnetic field. The argument could be made that the rocks were magnetized by the earths magnetic field, yet this argument collapses when you consider that if the moon ever got close enough to the earth to pick up a magnetic field, it would be ripped apart by earths gravity. So how were they magnetized? Again, nobody knows. Another mystery surrounds the moons large maria, the large dark areas that speckle the moons surface. That they appear to be the result of large outpourings of molten rock from the interior is not questioned. Yet they cannot easily be dismissed as being the result of natural volcanism either. The
maria are relatively smooth, with few craters on them. Yet, in order to explain them as the result of volcanism, they should have been formed at the very early stages of the moons birth. The interior of the moon is relatively cool compared to the earth, and this suggests that  any volcanism that took place took place while the moon was still hot: ie. in its early years.  

                               So looking at the facts, it appears that the moon ejected large amounts of molten rock by an unknown means. Another interesting fact about the maria is the presence of mascons located almost directly in the center of each maria area. The mascons are large, dense nearly circular areas underneith the marias. They were detected by the space craft that orbited the moon, as fluctuations in the moons gravity. No one has a clue what they are, unless you are willing to consider they may be artifcial in nature. Skeptics will often declare that they are iron meteorites, yet if that were true and they had hit the moon with enough force to go that deep they would have not only vaorized, they would have created huge craters.  

                               I will also quickly comment on the various times that glowing lights have been observed on the moon from the earth. The most common explanation for these events is that they are caused by gasses escaping from the moons interior. Yes thats it, magical glowing gasses (please note my use of sarcasm here). By themself, these events would not seem that odd, yet when considered in light of everything else, they are. 

                               There are many indications that the moon may be hollow. There was actually quite a debate going on about it in the 60's. A NASA scientist named Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated " If astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon be less dense than the outer parts. Indeed it would seem that the moon is more like a hollow rather than a homogenous sphere." MIT's Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote " The lunar orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moons gravitational field...indicating the frightening possibility that the moon may be hollow." Why did he choose the word frightening? The great skeptic Carl Sagan summed it up in his book Intelligent Life in the Universe: "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

                               The most startling evidence came on November 20, 1969 when the Apollo 12 crew, upon returning to the orbiter sent the lunar module (LM) crashing back down into the moon. The LM struck the surface about forty miles from the Apollow 12 landing site, where sensitive seismic equiptment had been left. It recorded something both astounding and unexpected. The moon reverberated for more than an hour like a bell. The vibration wave took 8 minutes to reach a peak and then decrease. At a news conference that day, one of the co-directors of the seismic experiment, Maurice Ewing, told reporters scientists were at a loss to explain the ringing. "As for the meaning of it, I would rather not make an interpretation now. But it is as if someone had struck a bell, say in the belfry of a church in a single blow and found that the reverberation continued for an hour."  Dr. Frank Press of MIT added "None of us have ever seen anything like this here on Earth. In all of our experience it is quite an extraordinary event. That this rather small impact... produced a signal that lasted an hour is quite beyond the range of our experience." The phenomenom was repeated with the Apollo 13's third stage, which was sent crashing by radio command. This time the reverberations lasted 3 hours and 20 minutes. 

                               Many people may recall the astronauts vain attempts to drill into he moons marias. The specialized drills were unable to penetrate more than a few inches, obstensibely due to the presence of titanium. However, this mystery was compounded by the discovery of what appeared to be processed metals. Rocks were found to contain brass, mica and amphibole in addition to the near pure titanium. Uranium 236 and Neptunium 237 - elements not found previously in nature were also found in moon rocks. While trying to explain the presence of these materials, scientists were startled to find rust proof iron in samples from the Sea of Crisis. Iron that does not rust is unknown in nature and is well beyond mans present technology. 

                               Now for myself, the most compelling piece of evidence of the moons unnatural origins come from one of my favorite books The Cambridge Atlas of Astronomy. In the chapter on the moon, three possible origins for the moon are given.


1) It formed with the Earth ; ie from the same material that formed the Earth.
2) It was created during a collision with a large comet or planetoid with the Earth.
3) It was a rogue satellite captured by the Earth.


                           I am happy to say that according to The Atlas, all three theories have been completely debunked. ( Happy because I love a good mystery). The composition of the moon is different than the Earth. The Earth has alot of iron, the moon has almost none. The age of the moon rocks and samples is older than anything on the Earth. So that totally rules out number 1 and most of number 2. Indeed, the differing compositions of the 2 bodies and their age difference really does rule out number 2. However, in support of debunking that arguement, the fact is there is no evidence that the Earth was ever involved in such a collision, and there is no debris left over orbiting the Earth. Another puzzling fact, the moon is the only satelite in the solar system which does not orbit a planet in the plane of the planets rotation.


                      Which brings us to number 3, the moon was a wandering planetoid that was captured by the Earth. Not only that, but was captured in such a way that the same side always faces the Earth, (thus the dark side of the moon). And the moon is the exact distance away to be the exact same apparent size as the suns disc. You can see that if you are fortunate to be in an area of totality during a solar eclipse. Taking into account the size of the moon, you know what the chances of this all ocurring naturally are? Well they are so close to being zero that it is considered the most unlikely of the scenarios. The odds are so astronomical as to be impossible. So there you are, the moon is a UFO!


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Posted: Feb 10 2006, 03:30 PM
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I read a bookcalled From the Stars or something and the author posed another scenario....the moon was "steered" into place from beyond...by some beings ?? the question is by whom?


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Posted: Feb 10 2006, 03:44 PM
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The titanium was the shell of the ship OR the rocket power. The author suggested that the moon was filled with some gases or fuel which was spent as it manuvered into position. Basically, it was parked. It also could be a

The moon is either a spaceship or an empty fuel canister.

I find the legends of the moon very interesting.



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Posted: Feb 10 2006, 08:40 PM
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The idea that the moon is an artificial satelite has been speculated about by many people.

What really intrigues me is how Solar and Lunar eclipses take place. The Moon is placed at exactly the right place to allow a total Solar or Lunar eclipse.

Also, what intrigues me is that we never see the back side of the moon.




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I medidated on this subject this morning. Sorry folks, my subconscious thinks that the moon is totally natural and formed from the same spinning proto-planet gas cloud that formed the Earth. The fact that the rotation of the moon and Earth is in complete lock-step is, IMHO, the clue that gives them the same birthplace.

That the moon is in the right place to give us good eclipses is, IMHO, a lucky coincidence.

As for the analysis of alleged moon rock samples: I am yet to be convinced that humanity has actually set foot on the moon. Orbited?, yes....landed?.....my jury is still out.

I think that if a mass as large as the moon was to be brought into position from an external source it could well destabilise the Earth's orbit to the point that it would fly off into space or into the Sun. Think also of the amount of energy necessary. Any species capable of acquiring and controlling that amount of energy would most likely have left "lighthouses" of manipulation pointing out their interference in many locations.




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