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Posted: Dec 9 2004, 04:29 AM
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IBM to sell PC Division to China.

History in the making. I think that we are witnessing a major change in world power. Who would have thought 20 years ago that a Chinese manufacturer would be buying IBM PC Division for $1.25bn?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/08/ibm_sells_pc_biz/

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Dear IBMer:
I have important news to share with you.

Today we announced a definitive agreement with the Lenovo Group, China's largest manufacturer and distributor of personal computers. Lenovo will acquire IBM's Personal Computing Division, creating the third-largest PC business in the world. Headquartered in New York, Lenovo's new PC business will be our preferred supplier of IBM- and Think-branded PCs. This will allow us to continue to provide our clients with end-to-end integrated solutions - but with the advantages of a PC business with unique and powerful capabilities: significant economies of scale, global distribution channels, strong brand recognition, an experienced and expert management team and workforce, and number one market position in the world's fastest growing IT market. In addition, IBM will be Lenovo's preferred services and financing provider. IBM will hold an 18.9 per cent equity stake in Lenovo.

Today's announcement is the latest action we have taken in recent years to reposition IBM for leadership in a rapidly changing industry. For some time we have said that there are two ways to create long-term value for clients and shareholders in the IT industry: invest heavily in R&D and be the high-value innovation provider for enterprises, or differentiate by leveraging vast economies of scale, high volumes and price.

IBM is an innovation company. We are committed to being the premier IT solutions partner for enterprises of all sizes, in all industries. This business model requires that we continuously create intellectual capital and that we reinvent everything we do - our technologies, products and services, our culture and our portfolio of businesses. This has been the hallmark of our company and has enabled IBM to grow and to lead countless product and technology cycles over many decades.

Today, computing and its uses are again changing radically - to what we've been describing as on demand business. This is opening up tremendous opportunities for IBM, and it's why we have invested billions of dollars in recent years to strengthen our capabilities in hardware, software, services and core technologies focused on transforming the enterprise. At the same time, the PC business is rapidly taking on characteristics of the home and consumer electronics industry, which favors economies of scale, pricing power and a focus on individual users and buyers. These are very different business and economic models, and they will diverge even further in the years ahead.

By combining our personal computing division with its own, highly complementary business, Lenovo will be much better positioned to capture the opportunities in the PC industry. Lenovo is committed to investing in, growing and winning in PCs. Lenovo will be a formidable competitor, and our alliance gives IBM an even stronger position in China, while strengthening our brand presence there.

Of course, IBM will continue to play a significant role in creating innovations for individuals - and not only through the broad PC alliance we are announcing today. As you know, our company is investing heavily to create the computing platform of the future. Our microprocessors and open software technologies underpin the next-generation on demand infrastructure, which will extend from the enterprise to the home to the mobile product to an expanding array of connected devices. In just the past couple of weeks, we've made significant announcements about advanced microprocessors we are developing in partnership with some of the world's leading consumer electronics companies, as well as initiatives to broaden adoption and support for these open platforms.

We are excited by today's announcement and how it further positions IBM for leadership in the days and years ahead.
Sam Palmisano, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer



Interesting times...
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I posted the bit about China buying IBM, because I see it as a sign that this Dragon is rising, whilst the US declines. I'm not sure how much interest there is on this subject here, but I'll plug away at it. winkNEW.gif

This below is from the Davos conference, clipped to tell more of the same story:-

China has lost faith in the stability of the U.S. dollar and its first priority is to broaden the exchange rate for its currency from the dollar to a more flexible basket of currencies, a top Chinese economist said Wednesday at the World Economic Forum.

China's exchange rate policies restrict the value of the yuan to a narrow band around 8.28 yuan, pegged to $1. Critics argue that the yuan is undervalued, making China's exports cheaper overseas and giving its manufacturers an unfair advantage. Beijing has been under pressure from its trading partners, especially the United States, to relax controls on its currency.

So the real issue is how to change the regime from a U.S. dollar pegging ... to a more manageable ... reference ... say Euros, yen, dollars -- those kind of more diversified systems," he said.

"If you do this, in the beginning you have some kind of initial shock," Fan said. "You have to deal with some devaluation pressures."

ďNow people understand the U.S. dollar will not stop devaluating."

One of the ways Greenspam is using to get the US out of its financial hole is to massively devalue the dollar,
so that in effect its citizens work for less real pay.

The policy only works if other nations keep their currencies at the old level. Since China is pegged to the dollar, and since most US imports are from China, the devaluation isnít working with regard to stemming the import of cheap products from China. Which is why the US is putting pressure on China to relax its controls.

Ironically however, after the initial shock to the Chinese economy when China stops supporting the dollar, China will become stronger as a nation, and the US likely moves into even deeper difficulties. I donít believe that TPTB canít see this, so look out for more focus on this front in the future.

William Parrett, chief executive of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, told the panel that Chinese companies are making significant progress in becoming global giants, led by state-owned companies.

"It's probably at least 10 years before the objective of the government of 50 of the largest 500 companies in the world being Chinese" is achieved, he said.

I think he is a pessimist Ė I think that its nearer 5 years
After all they have started by buying IBM. More to follow at knock down prices?

http://www.rense.com/general62/econ.htm

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Hey Without Fear, thanks for keeping on top of this.

TPTB are creating a society of no real middle class here in America.

It will be a society of those who make 50K - 100K plus a year and those who live at the poverty level.

Yup, no doubt the Chinese Dragon is also part of it.
Same as India. (Nagas)

First off...

We need to Take back the news media, and stop the mind control of the mass public.

We need to abolish the federal reserve, the IRS and the CIA and other alphabet agencies that do more harm than good, and start printing US notes

We need to stop importing so much and create more jobs here. And not just jobs where the poor folks do others laundry, mow their lawns and clean their homes.

We need to start recycling ALL products and all of the waste that we can and even reclaiming rain, flood and tap water that flows to the oceans.

Stop building nuclear reactors, close down the highly polluting energy producing coal burning factories and use clean renewable energy.

Stop the production and distribution of poisons and addicting drugs.

Stop the spreading of decadance and immorality via the porn industry.

Educate the children on conservation and protecting their environment instead of teaching them how to be cool by having the latest designer clothes or stuff they do not need.

But alas, I fear that change will not come until a great event happens.

It's evident to me what people want by looking at how many visitors we have here.

Tis truly depressing.

But hey, did you catch American Idol last night?

The 16 yr old with the nice rack and the horrible voice made it to the next round.




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On Friday January 28, 2005, the Boeing Company and officials from the Peoples' Republic of China signed an agreement for the purchase of 70 Boeing 7E7 Dreamliners by Chinese airlines.

The agreement mentions a fixed price of US$110 million per airplane. The salemen had pulled it off, and managed to sell more than 100 aircraft based only on an artist's impression.

At the Davos conference, Fan Gang, Chinese economist, said, "So the real issue is how to change the regime from a US dollar pegging  to a more manageable reference say Euros, yen, those kind of more diversified systems. If you do this, in the beginning you have some kind of initial shock; you have to deal with some devaluation pressures."

Naturally this means the US Dollar will continue to fall like a stone, going into final freefall when Russia and OPEC decide to start trading their oil stocks in Euros instead of dollars.

So, Boeing has talked itself into the fixed-price delivery in 2008 of more than a hundred 7E7s [now the 787s], with that price fixed in US Dollars.

Oh dear, now how much will the US Dollar be worth in four years time, when the Euro has become the world's only viable reserve currency?

Let us take 25% of its current value against the Yuan and Yen, which means that Boeing will be contractually obliged to deliver brand-new 787 aircraft to China and Japan for today's equivalent price of a second-hand Boeing 737, or declare bankruptcy.

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?C...9#Post293334109

So, perhaps we can soon add the purchase of Boeing at a knock down price to that of IBM PC?

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From Rense it seems at that some are awake in the US, but still havenít fully grasped whats happening.

China now effectively controls the US economy through its ownership of US government debt, and whilst pegging their currency to the US dollar, are assured of uniterupted supply of their products to America.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/nov2004/usde-n08.shtml

They clearly arenít going to play along with the US Government over calls to revalue their currency, and US threats to impose at 27% tariff on China imports are likely to misfire.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8422111/

And so, whilst they can, the Chinese are buying up key US Corporations, and the US government is impotent to react.

Maytag (with brands such as Hoover, Jenn-Air and Amana) is in discussion to sell the company to China's Haier America Trading Company for $1.28bn.

And for good measure, Unocal (the Oil Company) is likely to be bought by China National Offshore Oil Company (CNOOC) for $18.5bn

Give a few more years and these guys will be the only World Super Power.

Better start taking those Chinese Lessons.

This link to the Asia Times gives a good insight:-

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/GF30Ad02.html

Something about an Emperor fiddling while Rome burns comes to mind.

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Hey Without Fear, Good Post!

I've wondered why the Chinese stopped exploring the world in their massive ships 500 years ago.

One of Columbus's ships in front of Zheng He's vessel
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I think the brotherhood is behind almost all nations on Earth. Some are communist, some are democracies, some are socialist, some are fascist and some are dictatorships.

Playing us all against each other via religions, language, race and culture - DIVIDE and CONQUER.




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IBM Sells PC Business To Red China Concern
America Losing Economic War To Red China
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Is the reader aware that the Red China company Lenovo has purchased the IBM Personal Computer division for $1.75 billion dollars in cash and stock equity? It is no wonder why they wanted to keep this corporate takeover relatively quiet. Yet another American company has been taken over by a corporation from Red China -- a corporation that is partly owned and controlled by the Chinese government. This story, which has MAJOR implications to the continuing technology transfers from the USA to Red China, has not been given much exposure in the controlled and heavily-censored American mainstream news media.
 
Red China has nearly defeated America by economic means, and not a single shot has ever been fired. Those in the know keep hearing about Red China's standing military of 200 million strong -- which is approximately two-thirds of the total population of the USA. China is kicking American ass -- and they are doing it by purely economic means. No armies have been deployed, and if our nation continues down the current road we are presently on -- Red China will completely defeat America by means of what I might call 'economic strangulation.'
 
It is beginning to appear that America is being destroyed from within ON PURPOSE -- and if this IS indeed the case -- then those in Washington, DC who are helping this to happen either through myopic monetary and trade policy or through their own failure to act to protect American national security -- are committing treason and should be immediately arrested and taken into custody.
 
In an article for Information Week, the following was mentioned about the national security concerns and the potential transfer of sensitive technology from the USA to Red China that could have occurred because of this corporate takeover:
 
"While IBM and Lenovo officials can now look forward to making Lenovo a global PC giant, the deal wasn't without its hitches. Some U.S. lawmakers expressed concerns that it would result in the transfer of sensitive technology to a communist-led country that some consider a political and economic rival to the United States. Nonetheless, the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States, which is attached to the Treasury Department, gave the deal the green light in March after reviewing its national-security implications. At the time, a source close to the deal said IBM and Lenovo had to make some 'minor modifications' to the agreement to win federal approval. For instance, Lenovo employees working at IBM's manufacturing and design facility in Raleigh, N.C., must be housed in a separate building on the campus," the source said.
 
As the above quote points out -- this transaction was approved in spite of obvious national-security implications. While it may not result in the transfer of sensitive military technology -- there are economic implications here -- as the IBM personal computer division is a multi-billion dollar company unto its own. While the IBM-Lenovo co-headquarters will be located in both the USA and in Red China -- the profits of still another large global American corporation will be forever taken off-shore and away from America.
 
Here are some of the details of this corporate takeover:
 
* Creates third largest PC business with $12 billion combined annual sales (2003 fiscal year).
 
* With IBM buyout, Lenovo quadruples their annual sales on 11.9 million units sold.
 
* New marketplace encompassing 160 countries, for a true global reach.
 
* IBM will now outsource all PC's to Lenovo, with IBM handling customer credit side of business.
 
* IBM takes an 18.9 percent ownership stake in Lenovo.
 
* Founded in 1984, Lenovo brought the PC to Red China, and since 1997, has been leading PC brand in Red China and Asia.
 
* Lenovo had $3 billion dollars in sales in 2003, and IBM had sales of $9 billion of sales in that same year.
 
As the reader can tell by the list above, the Lenovo transaction is an extremely unusual situation. It is quite literally, a small fish devouring a larger fish, as IBM is three-times the size of Lenovo, in terms of sales volume alone. A company with $3 billion dollars in sales is usually purchased by the company with $9 billion dollars in sales -- and not the other way around. Here, the smaller company bought the larger company -- and this raises some red-flags -- leading me to wonder what is really going on here? "We were simply finding a boss for ourselves," said Mary Ma, Lenovo's Chief Financial Officer.
 
Why is ANYONE in the United States allowing a Red China corporation to purchase an American company three-times larger than itself? The article in WIRED magazine called this an "unprecedented union of [Red] China's biggest information technology company and an American institution..." and also points out that the acquisition moves Lenovo from the world's ninth-largest personal computer manufacturer, to the third -- behind Dell and Hewlett-Packard, respectively. This is the spot previously held by IBM, which as a company isn't gaining nearly as much as Lenovo -- a foothold in the American technology sector.
 
The WIRED article also points out that "there's more afoot here than the sale of an American icon to Chinese owners. The purchase creates the first truly globalized -- as opposed to global -- corporation. [ ... ] It's a confluence of forces -- innovation, technology, and free markets -- that makes this moment possible. Isn't this exactly the kind of IBM Thomas Watson Sr., who in the 1930's pitched world peace through world trade,' would have wanted for the 21st century? Is this what globalization hath wrought?" [WIRED pg. 144]
 
Lenovo chose IBM's Steve Ward to become its' next CEO, and SONY did the same earlier in 2005, when they named Howard Stringer as their first-ever non Japanese Chairman and CEO. This is the business world under the regime of globalization -- American business executives training and mentoring their own Red Chinese counterparts as the formerly American company now works against the U.S. -- the very country to which they are supposed to harbor some allegiance.
 
Some might wish to think that this $12 billion dollars is only a small portion of IBM's annual sales of $96.3 billion dollars -- but this fact does not matter much when set against the 'bigger picture.' The anti-trust and the national-security personnel that examined this deal for the U.S. Government have set a dangerous precedent by approving this corporate takeover.
 
I expect to see further deals of this nature -- with larger amounts of shareholder equity flowing permanently out of the USA and into Red China.
 
The deal starts to make sense when one discovers that twenty-eight percent of Lenovo is owned by the Red China government. Could this be an act of economic war against the USA by Red China itself?
 
Here are some of the ways in which the Lenovo deal harms the United States:
 
* Red China communist government owns 28% stake in Lenovo.
 
* Pre-buyout 33% of IBM employees were based in the U.S. Post buyout, it fell to only 17% based in the U.S.
 
* IBM loses half of their employees who were formerly based in the USA, about 10,000 jobs total.
 
* IBM's revenue per employee falls from $1,279,400 to $684,211.
 
* Red China government-backed company operates in America at New York co-headquarters.
 
* IBM PC unit with $9 billion dollars in annual revenue in 2003 is sold for rock-bottom price of $1.8 billion dollars.
 
The takeover of IBM's PC manufacturing business is similar to the $3.4 billion dollar corporate takeover by SONY Corporation of Columbia Pictures Entertainment (and all subsidiaries) on November 7, 1989. Will another company, in the future, be hijacked in a similar manner? I would have to say, that yes it will happen again. America will come to suffer Red China's 'death of a thousand cuts' -- and whether we as a nation will survive is anyone's guess.
 
The signs and symptoms of the situation seem to indicate that we are ALREADY at war with Red China -- and the basis of this war is economic in nature. We have run up an outrageous trade deficit that is largely due to one single nation. We import all matter of cheap and inexpensive goods -- at the expense of the careers and livelihoods of millions upon millions of American citizens -- who now work at a local fast food restaurant because their factory job was relocated to Mexico or Red China.
 
The only solution to this mess in which we currently find ourselves is NOT to purchase goods and/or services from companies like Lenovo-IBM, WAL-MART, and others like them. There still are a few good and honest businesses left -- and it is THEY who deserve our patronage. Why continue to line the pockets of TRILLIONAIRES -- such as when one shops at WAL-MART -- when you can rest your conscience and shop at one of the few remaining honest businesses that can be found? This is a war -- and during times of immense struggle -- the idea should be to support your allies and protest your enemies by refusing to patronize their businesses. While it is certainly true that things cost more at the smaller but honest business -- however I would much rather patronize that honest business than to place my money with some business who is using the profits from my purchases to DESTROY the land that I love so much.
 
SOURCES:
 
IBM Press Release - 'Lenovo To Acquire IBM Personal Computing Division,' December 7, 2004
 
Maney, Kevin - 'The New Face of IBM,' WIRED July 2005, pgs. 142-149
 
McDougall, Paul - IBM Completes Sale of PC Business To Lenovo,' Information Week, May 2, 2005
 
http://informationweek.com/story/showArtic...cleID=162100445
 
WIRED News Report - 'IBM Deal Gets Green Light,' March 9, 2005
 
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,66841,00.html
 
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I find it interesting to note Microsoft the all time heavy weight who by its own nature and status tends to let things show their worth before swooping in then taking it to market,now show Major interest in surveilance cameras /equipment and all things related.going so far as to take the sh*t jobs microsoft plays its hand by taking a large contract to undertake the initiative of "securing"all car parking lots both indoor an out door with an end date somewhere round 2010.
this of course small fry to the soon to be obvious next step to in house surveilence for the "protection" of the future gen where noone will be able to even have privacy in there own homes ,to note its sad that a logical inevitabilty in regards to lighter consciousness is yet again takin to the crappier more exploited side of the coin .
this harkens somewhat strikingly with a website made long long ago from a member of the gratefull dead with a strong theme running throughout ,its message "stop the thought police" .......tick,tock,tick,tock,....are we waiting for it or already there?smileNew4.gif lol




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BEIJING - Unocal Corp has told CNOOC Ltd it will consider withdrawing its backing for a 16.5 bln usd bid by Chevron Corp in favour of the Chinese company's 18.5 bln usd offer if it pledged to meet a number of conditions, the Financial Times reported.

The newspaper, citing people close to the situation, said the conditions include requests for divestments and other demands from US regulators.

The paper said CNOOC and Unocal have been in negotiations over the state-controlled group's landmark bid for the last 10 days.

The US oil and gas group has set out what it would take for the Chinese offer to be declared "superior" to Chevron's.

Negotiations have also focused on specific pledges CNOOC might be prepared to make to defuse US regulators' concerns, the paper said.

The CNOOC bid, launched last month, was pitched at a premium to Chevron's offer partly because of fears Washington could block the Chinese group's takeover.

With the price of CNOOC's bid so far fixed at 67 usd a share, the talks have turned to other details in the merger agreement, such as a "material adverse change" clause as well as the treatment of Unocal management, employees and the pension plan.

People close to the situation warned that CNOOC had not taken a final decision on whether to comply with Unocal's requests. [...]

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