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Posted: Aug 22 2004, 09:10 AM
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An example of the low resolution photographic mud that was published by Life can be seen 2/3 of the way down this page. Notice neither the fast fragment lines or the trench in JFK's head are visible. But for the owners of the original film, these artifacts were very visible and they were able to publish these clear images. But did not do so.

See: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ2.htm

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Posted: Aug 24 2004, 05:27 PM
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Since we have the photos working well on Pupp's pleasant internet forum, and I appear to the "speaking to the Choir" on crooked Government and Conspiracies, some more icon photos for you all to consider.

Most of you all know the Vietnam war broke out of the the issues of Catholcism taking some control of the rulers of Vietnam. The war broke out over trying to protect these Catholic crusades in Vietnam.

So, the Pope and company were none to happy when JFK was going to pull out of Vietnam and let these people support their own wars and choose their own religions. JFK learned a lot on religion and perhaps even that God was created for Man's purposes and not vice versa. He certainly learned to let the people of Vietnam choose their own directions. All that, despite shutting down the CIA funding methods for Cuba using drugs.

With that laid on the table, an interesting statue is in the Garden of St. Mary's Catholic church in Oak Ridge, Tn.. For those that seek to find it, This church is on the main street in Oak Ridge and right across from the downtown mall area. The Mary statue faces the wide grassy plain next to the main road.

Here are two photos of this statue and it has some interesting meanings of the sort that Michaelanglo would imbed in his works.

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As one can see this is the statue of the Virgin Mary, but with some interesting modifications. Jewish Mary wears the hat of the Old World Pontifs.

Mary stands on the classical snake that represents the poisons from the Earth that must be controlled for good health and longevity.

Mary stands on a globe with an atom symbol.

Notice the Sun sign in the middle. Astrological sun sign is a circle with a dot in the middle. Most of the really old religions originated from the worship of Sun and the Natural Order.

Notice the Atom orbits form the Star of David, the principle sign for the Jews. The Jews were highly into discovery of the nuclear things, from fission on up to making the nuke bombs work.

The chilling and sinister thing is that the statue faces the Y-12 nuclear weapons plant, just adjacent to downtown Oak Ridge. This is the home of the plot that offed JFK, all based on the Jewish/Israel issues.

Only the top insiders in Oak Ridge know the full significance of this Icon statue in downtown Oak Ridge. In Oak Ridge, it is more of a secret sign than the Creation Painting on the ceiling of the Sistine.

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The details to keep in mind are that the plants in Oak Ridge were code named to Jewish linked code names. Plants like Y-12 were linked to Yahwah and the 12 disciples. X-10 was named after the X for God in Catholicism and the Ten Commandments. Initially, lots of the Jews thought they were chasing the power of God with the nuclear experiments and the thing that caused the destruction of the Euphrates Valley. [See Truman's July 25, 45 diary entries.]

The other plant ended up being more related to this God effect, and the K-25 plant was named for the Kellex process that used 25 percent of the Manhattan Project's funds to make what they called product 25 or HEU for the bomb.

The K-25 plant ended up being a fluoide disaster on health and environment and its impacts on humans like the real destruction in the Euphrates Valley from volcanic effects causing great rains and floods. These same effects today are related to the need for chemtrails to control fluorides effects on the atmosphere and health.

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Posted: Aug 25 2004, 06:27 AM
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" JFK learned a lot on religion and perhaps even that God was created for Man's purposes and not vice versa."

Perhaps not. Spiritual sentiment overrides scientific theory, which has become a "god" to those who believe that God doesn't exist except in the minds of man. Oh, boy, are they in for a rude awakening.

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Posted: Aug 25 2004, 09:53 AM
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This image still has me semi-stunned.

The Star of David and Nuclear energy (the atom) forming one symbol.





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"This image still has me semi-stunned.
The Star of David and Nuclear energy (the atom) forming one symbol."

Wow! Makes me wonder how many other symbols we have seen yet not "seen", thinking them to be artwork or just scientific symbols. They are really a hidden sign language, which we are just now beginning to decipher.

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Posted: Aug 26 2004, 06:32 AM
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BJ, Pupp, all,

Old world sculpting and even some art is loaded with hidden meanings, and religious icons especially. Most people walk around the South and don't even notice a common Civil War code for statues:

"If a statue in the park of a person on a horse has both front legs
in the air, the person died in battle.
If the horse has one front leg in the air the person
died as a result of wounds received in battle. If
the horse has all four legs on the ground, the person died of natural
causes."

Even in playing cards there are symbols:

"Each king in a deck of playing cards represents a great king from
history: Spades - King David, Hearts - Charlemagn, Clubs -Alexander, the Great,
Diamonds - Julius Caesar."


And another little noticed fact is that----"Intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair." This is an artifact of low fluoride. Fluoride alters beneficial trace metal retention in the body. Fluoride affects manganese levels, which is directly linked to the susceptabilty toward HIV transmission in populations.

In the Icon statues of old world religion there are the hidden meanings:
In the orginal Mary statue the snake coming from the Earth and bitting into the Apple: this is all about the same issues as it linked to Eve and the poison apple in the Garden of Eden. Mary's foot on the apple suggests that toxics entering the food chain from the Earth need to be controlled. Which is one of the huge problems that we have today----this factor is not well controlled------especially not with the rat poison called fluoride.

In the case of Eve and the Garden, this toxic effect leads to issues of falling off the eternal life equation, longevity, and leads to much too high a rate of reproduction in the population of the planet. I think the entire world notes these effects today and it is a top issue in the national security business. The toxic effects even drive afrodesiac effects----and one can see the object of most persons thoughts in this area today and on TV.

Per nuke bomb and power of the atom, The Jewish were always the ones into the Bomb research, so it is not unusual that the atom symbol for nuclear has embedded the Star of David. Watch the movie called "Fat Man and Little Boy" sometime. The very beginning of the movie starts with a meeting with "The Creation" being shown. Michaelangelo and others of his time were into sketching detailed drawings of the human organs, like the brain---despite this being forebidden by the Pope at these times.

Put simply, all religious icons have a veiled meaning----and when one grasps those little hidden meanings--------the world becomes much more clear. Lots of religion in the US tends to ignore the real meanings of these icons.

Even in the old days, when hebrew was the language, iconistic names were largely related to God doing or causing all things. In reality, they likely should have said something like the natural order of things. But, they didn't. And one can observe iconistic names from the hebrew langage:

http://www.totallyjewish.com/parenting/bab...x=boys&letter=m

Emmannuel from the Hebrew, meaning 'G-d is with us' (Manny).
Eden from the Hebrew, meaning 'enchanting'.
Eden from the Hebrew, meaning a 'pleasant place'.
Adam from the Hebrew meaning, 'formed of the red earth'.
Eve from the Hebrew, meaning 'life giver' (Evie, Evita).
Noah from the Hebrew, meaning 'rest, comfort and peace' (Genesis 5.29).
Moses from the Hebrew, meaning 'taken from the water'.
Mary from the Hebrew, meaning 'bitter' (Mara, Polly, Molly).

The entire message from Noah was more about volcanic effects, than any issue linked to a big boat.

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Posted: Aug 26 2004, 08:00 AM
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Thanks, JEP, for enlarging on the signs in artwork and names! While reading the Scriptures, I often wondered if the use of names applied to a greater concept than just the naming of an individual.

There are many ancient symbols, in use today, which can be traced back to early Egyptian times. In PuPP's "Skulls" thread, much of these can be traced back to the tribe of Dan, which spawned the Merovingians, who are prominent in politics today, who use the same signs in archetecture and other artwork covertly as messages. We might liken them to fingerprints of the ancestry of these people.

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Posted: Aug 26 2004, 10:20 AM
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All those old cultures had real reasons for their icons and symbols, which are sometimes called myths these days. These so called myths were icon symbols for certain lessons learned from nature, astrology, and from mans interactions with man. There are a few folkes that understand a good deal of these old relationships and why there were made into icons. It helps to go back to the beginnings to get a grasp on what was important.

The explanations are note very popular because of what the information will do to modern concepts for religion and medicine. We have some real problems with mythological hydras these days and there appears one from religion and one involving the US Govt. Despite lots of resistance, many are beginning to help chop of the heads of these hydras and are getting to the central concepts of the problems of the world.

These old cultures learned things the hard way and it is hard to devalue 10,000 years worth of human experiences. Take, for instance, the myth on Frankenstein. The real legend comes from Germany and Dr. Dobson, staying on a rich estate, decided to examine these peoples ancestors bones in the estate cemetary and found them to be laden with lead visible on the surface. So, the fella decided to try cyanide, prussian blue, methods to cause the lead to shed in living people. This is one of the legendary stories from the trails on alchemy. These days, we know these like effects being associated with B-17 and laetrile.

The Roman Empire took a wrong turn with metals and pretty much killed itself with lead used in food storage and water supply systems. Old cultures like in France learned better cooking methods and started using tin lined copper cookware. This is part of why they fare better with health, plus the use of lots of wine---another alchemical orgin idea.

Even when we get into learning about coronary artery diseases these days and the value of copper in keeping these cleaned out-----it gets right back into a fluoride problem. Fluoride exposures alter copper retention.

All these old artists were into alchemy to a large degree, because they had to be magicans with metals that were used to make their colors for artworks. Some dug deeper and appears a few learned the internal magic of trace metals.

Humans knew more of health and longevity in these old times than all the modern medicines of today. They lived a thousand years only by simple methods of putting only beneficial things into the body. Lots of their observations and learning things the hard way were about avoiding the bad side effects of a terrible element called fluorine.

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Posted: Aug 26 2004, 11:54 AM
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Hi gang, just a quicky to let ya know I was here and I truly appreciate the information provided on this subject of metals.

It really ties in many things.

Soooo much to absorb.... oh wait, I'm already absorbing toxic metals that are stripping me away from years of my life.

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Posted: Aug 26 2004, 12:56 PM
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Anyway,

Back to JFK. Despite the denial of the Warren White Wash on Ruby's ties to the mofia--Ruby had extensive associations and networking with the Mafia.

See what the HSCA dug up when someone cared to look:
http://ourworld-top.cs.com/mikegriffith1/id153.htm

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More details that tie in the Jewish equation on JFK. Obvious one was Rubenstein. Then Lansky. Then Permidex, which is Trade Mart, the place JFK was going to do a fund raiser lunchon. The link Garrison found.

If the leaks had been good enough----Garrison should have connected Jack Ruby and his Jewish support------then connect him to Oak Ridge and back up to CIA Jesus Angleton.


http://www.rense.com/general42/enemies.htm

What the book does say is that: When New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison charged businessman Clay Shaw with participation in the JFK assassination conspiracy Garrison stumbled upon the Israeli Mossad connection to the murder of President Kennedy. Shaw served on the board of a shadowy corporation known as Permindex. A primary shareholder in Permindex was the Banque De Credit International of Geneva, founded by Tibor Rosenbaum, an arms procurer and financier for the Mossad.

What's more, the Mossad-sponsored Swiss bank was the chief "money laundry" for Meyer Lansky, the head of the international crime syndicate and an Israeli loyalist whose operations meshed closely on many fronts with the American CIA.

The chairman of Permindex was Louis M. Bloomfield of Montreal, a key figure in the Israeli lobby and an operative of the Bronfman family of Canada, long-time Lansky associates and among Israel's primary international patrons.



http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/Critical_thinking/Chance.html

Kennedy was brought to Oswald by three strokes of chance. The first was the last-minute cancellation of Kennedy’s honorary degree by Texas Christian University in Forth Worth. That created a slot only partially filled by a breakfast event there. To complete the schedule JFK decided on a motorcade in Dallas, the second stroke of chance.

The third stroke was choosing the venue for the luncheon on the 22nd. Kennedy and the Secret Service preferred one location, but Governor Connally insisted on the Dallas Trade Mart and won out. With the first location, the motorcade would have passed through the middle of Dealey Plaza at high speed and with Mrs. Kennedy between Oswald and JFK. The new site required driving slowly along the edge of the plaza, in the opposite direction and right in front of the depository. This brought Kennedy within easy shooting range and made him a slower, unshielded target. The route first appeared in the papers only three days ahead of time.


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http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwallaceM.htm

McClellan and others before him have discussed the fact that LBJ faced some pretty awful prospects, including not only being dumped from the 1964 ticket but also spending a long, long time in the slammer as a result of his role in the rapidly expanding Bobby Baker case - something few have speculated about because the full facts were never revealed by the media, which didn't want to know, or report, the truth...

Bobby Kennedy, called five of Washington's top reporters into his office and told them it was now open season on Lyndon Johnson. It's OK, he told them, to go after the story they were ignoring out of deference to the administration.

And from that point on until the events in Dallas, Lyndon Baines Johnson's future looked as if it included a sudden end to his political career and a few years in the slammer. The Kennedys had their knives out and sharpened for him and were determined to draw his political blood - all of it.

In the Senate, the investigation into the Baker case was moving quickly ahead. Even the Democrats were cooperating, thanks to the Kennedys, and an awful lot of really bad stuff was being revealed - until Nov. 22, 1963.

By Nov. 23, all Democrat cooperation suddenly stopped. Lyndon would serve a term and a half in the White House instead of the slammer, the Baker investigation would peter out and Bobby Baker would serve a short sentence and go free. Dallas accomplished all of that.




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Posted: Aug 27 2004, 10:23 AM
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Just especially for you all on Pupp's place.

What you are about to read now is the real missing pieces from the Oak Ridge link to the JFK assasinations and follow on killings. These are the pieces that are most highly classified within the DOE/CIA/DOJ NS systems. It should become a little more clear why I keep putting the issues of fluorides health effects into the JFK assassination thread, at this point.

By now you all have figured out that LBJ was your basic old fashion low class crook that killed people to get to where he was in politics. He was in big trouble as JFK was being offed. He was so low that he was even connected to killing his own sister, plus many many more.

LBJ, Ruby, Ferrie, etc. teamed up with the Oak Ridge thugs that were working the Cuban stuff to promote keeping their jobs. Oak Ridge found a covert way to kill people.

Oak Ridge found one of the CIA's biggest killing secrets, and the roots of the mind control system. Fluoride was the big secret. Put it in the water and it dulls peoples minds, makes them take near anything they are told at face value. Lowers IQ, energy, etc.

Oak Ridge found that a fluoride called HF, or hydrogen fluoride, could be used covertly to cause sudden death via heart attacks. They saw this in a worker named Jack Owens, who died of a sudden heart attack after he visited the Y-12 green salt operation and sat on HF wetted green salt. HF goes right through the skin and causes damage to heart cell mtDNA that is cumulative over a few days, resulting in heart failure.

For more on this fluoride effects seen in the Manhattan Project, see the book called Fluoride Deception by Bryson. Probems with HF have been known from the beginning. Read sudden death effects from Donora, Pa. and so on.

Using HF to kill people is as simple as making some 20 percent HF solution and accidentally tossing it onto someones skin. In a few days, they will die. It is that subtile a poison.

Fluorides also kill the immune system by greatly increasing susceptabilty from cancers. Keep in mind that David Ferrie, Oswald, and a Dr. Judith Baker were working on a plan to kill Castro using cancer. The way that worked best was to kill the immune system with a poison, then cancer will take up residency in the body. Fluoride in the air is linked to pneumonia type issues of the lungs.

These are the really big CIA-CUBA secrets to which the crooks of the Oak Ridge Y-12 plant were meddling. Y-12 supplied the good ole boys working on killing Castro with the secrets of HF and fluorides on health. Possibly even the killing effects of beryllium dusts.

Variants of the HF killing methods use things like freon burned in cars, which makes a type of fluoride anesthetic gas, that will knock persons out. This was the technique used against Karen Silkwood in the Oklahoma Kerr-McGee mess.


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Read about the most secret of the CIA/Oak Ridge methods used for LBJ's Murder Syndicated.

http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetruth/reststory/witness.html

Tom Howard, who died of a heart attack, was a good friend of District Attorney Henry Wade, although they often opposed each other in court. Howard was close to Ruby and other fringes of the Dallas underworld.



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Oak Ridge was into the Cuba issues mainly because they had found a covert
method to assassinate persons using fluorides and especially hydrogen fluoride.
The Manhattan Project had serious health effects from HF releases that took a
toll on workers health. So, they came up with a way to conceil this effect by
making it part of the CIA methods to covertly assassinate foreign leaders. 20
percent HF solutions splashed onto unsuspecting persons skin with go into the
blood stream and cause cumulative damage to heart cell mtDNA resulting in
sudden heart attacks. This effect was found in HF fatality situations such as Y-12
worker named Jack Owens being exposed to HF via skin in the "Green Salt"
operation and then dying after a few days. Books like Fluoride Deception by Bryon
now exposed some of the HF problems linked to the Manhattan Project and
industry.




Oswald's home town was New Orleans and he knew persons like David Ferrie from
his Civil Air Patrol Days. CIA asset David Ferrie was into ways to kill
Castro and take back Cuba. One of the methods was to induce cancer into Castro and
a doctor named Dr. Judyth Vary Baker was helping Ferrie with experiments.
Ferrie's home was filled with lab mice to do these experiments. Oswald was a
friend with both Ferrie and Baker, as they worked on this project. Oswald knew all
about the most covert operation to kill Castro, that came to involve Oak
Ridge. Oak Ridge interjected the use of toxics to induce cancers or latent sudden
death via heart attacks. This was to be used by placing a person close to
Castro. Ruby was helping this project along.


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