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> WHERE THE HELL IS MAR'S MOON PHOBOS?, The 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse here?


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Posted: Feb 27 2005, 07:30 AM
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WHERE the hell is PHOBOS ??!!??!!

Phobos has a distinctive shape. It appears to be a flattened out sphere with a huge crater (Stickney Crater) at one end. The other end has a slight (comparatively speaking) indentation. it WAS ORBITING MARS.

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The distinctive shape of Phobos can be seen in each of these images. We believe that these images are all of the same object - namely Phobos. Stickney Crater can be seen in each image. The entire body is masked in the photos due to darkness of the shot or by the increase of ambient light in the image. The first image, "A" was a 35 millimeter camera shot of the moon at night, Christmas 1998 (more on this image in a few paragraphs). The second shot, "B", was taken over Turkey during the August '99 eclipse (Credit is given to the photographer on the larger image). And the the last shot is an image shown previously in this article and was taken on April 13th, 2001 in Western Europe. We first estimated the distance of each object and then postulated if each object were actually Phobos and ten miles in diameter, would the size and distance collate. Down to a point each object is ten miles in diameter! Our doubts, if any, were crashing down like the Berlin Wall. This is Phobos and it is absolutely not obeying natural laws.


from:
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We had become convinced that there was something flying around in the skies above the earth. We knew that they were not simply satellites or aircraft.

Many people would think that if an object the size of Phobos or Deimos were flying through the skies above us, the moons could be easily seen. Phobos and Deimos are respectively approximately ten and five miles in diameter. In Dr. Frank's (the discoverer of house sized comets hitting the earth) explanation pertaining to the visibility of these house sized comets,we can easily understand that these objects could not be seen without special equipment.

To briefly explain; This article is titled as it is because of four immediate threats to the safety of the earth and her inhabitants. We will present each one according to our discovery of each as we researched the encounter between 76P and Mars and other issues on this site. We can say that we believe the threat is real and that we recognized the threat in reference to the last two years of work. It very may well be that what we present is conjecture at times or that we simply just do not know. We are human and guided by the resources available to us.

One more final point, before we get started. We believed at the time that Phobos may or may not have been affected by 76P. What we have discovered is that Phobos may have left Mars' orbit prior to June 2000! In fact the story appears to go back to before the passage of comet Lee. The following will reflect the fact that at first we thought June 2000 was significant. But what we found was a story much broader and more fitting to the behavior of NASA and their involvement with the planet Mars.

The following proof is irrefutable. There will be many that will doubt it, there will be many that will be astonished, however, it is for every individual person to decide for themselves. As always your opinions are welcome.

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Posted: Feb 27 2005, 11:16 AM
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Hey OP.. i would like you to read this article too...
http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/mars/bartjordan_1.html

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THE MOONS OF MARS
by Bart Jordan

Bart Jordan is a classical guitarist who studied with Andre Segovia in Spain. He also has a degree in comparative literature, and has initiated research regarding the art and science of prehistoric humankind. An extraordinary mathematical ability led him, at a very early age, into an audience with Einstein. After reading Gulliver's Travels in which Swift, although writing fiction, had accorded two moons to Mars, Jordan wanted to know the exact revolutions and distances of the moons because he thought they might hold a key to their actual dimensions. In 1944, aged seven, he calculated the distances of Phobos and Deimos from the center of Mars. These were later published by Encyclopedia Britannica during the sixties. In the following article, he provides mathematical evidence for his theory that the moons of Mars were culled from the Asteroid Belt between Jupiter and Mars. His Cesium Second Equation is the most spectacular of all his evidence, suggesting that Man was clearly the author of this event.


it is copyrighted so i cannot cut and paste more than this...

it is copyrighted so i cannot cut and paste more than this...

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Posted: Feb 27 2005, 11:47 AM
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Thanks TwoStones

This is the kind of thing that needs to be checked, and carefully too.

If true........
Well I guess after 911 the "Visitors" don't trust press releases about anything that lands on the white house lawn.


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Posted: Feb 27 2005, 01:33 PM
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following the logic behind Jordan's calculations...

from the Anagram
Phobos and Deimos:

You may want to check your self...these are only a fraction

IM NO PHD ODE SOS AB
IM NO PHD A ODE SOBS
MI PODS BASH ON ODE
IM A NO PHD BODE SOS
IM A NO PHD BODE SOS
read TWO STONE'S Link....

BAD MESS NO DO HOPI
HOMOS END AS BIPOD
ASK TREE HUGGER about RA and the LAW of ONE

DOD MOON SHIP BASE
MOON SHIP SAD BODE
MOON SHIP SAD BE DO
MOON SHIP AS BODED
MOON SHIP BASE ODD
MOON A BODED SHIPS

ION POD BEADS OHMS
ION POD BASED OHMS
ION PODS BAD HOMES
ION PODS BASH DOME
I was just remarking the other day that junior science kitchen table ION drive experiments that I saw in the early 60s have dissappeared from the text books.

oh I just caught this..from TwoStones link as well
in regards to the two moons being synchronized to the cesium second time clock..

"Cesium? Was the metal involved in ion-propelled vehicles used for their capture from the he Asteroid Belt?"

I bet, and they used the charge differential of the eliptic to power them...

HOMOSAPIEN BODS D
HOMOSAPIEN DOD BS
HOMO SPINS BAD ODE
HOMO DO SPIN BEADS
HOMO BIPEDS ADON(i)S
HOMO SENDS A BIPOD

MOON SHIP BAD ODES
MOON SHIP BAD DOES
MOON SHIP BAD DOSE

MAN BODED HOPI SOS
MAN BODED HOPIS SO
HOPIS BAD DEMON SO
HOPI OMEN BAD DOSS
HOPI OMEN DAD SOBS
HOPI OMEN DAD BOSS
HOPI OMEN ADD SOBS

BAD HOPI DEMON SOS
BAD HOPI DEMONS SO
BAD HOPI MENDS OSO
BAD HOPI DOME SONS

BISHOPS OMEN A ODD
BISHOPS OMEN A DOD
BISHOPS OMEN AD DO

BISHOP A ODD MEN SO
BISHOP A DEMON DOS
BISHOP A DEMON SOD
DEMONS DO A BISHOP

BISHOP A ENDS DOOM
DEMON SAID PHOBOS
DEMONS AID PHOBOS

BAD MESS OHIO POND

EIN PODS BASH DOOM
ION PODS BASH DOME

OHIO MEN BAD PODS
OHIO DAMPED SNOBS
OHIO BAD POND MESS
DEMON PODS BASH I SO
HOME PODS DO BASIN

SOME posters here will remember that a possible Psychic on GLP predicted asteroid hits in the Ohio area last April.
I've noticed from constant use of the I Ching, that the hardest thing to predict is the when, because time is fluid in the realm of psi.

I SOB DAN DO HEMP SO....there you have it...truth in ANAGRAMS.

I always said that after the fall, if I had my druthers, it would be a hemp based society based on the 6 nations form of government with the I ching and Tai Chi
thrown in for good measure, maybe ....

ODIN A BOSS DO HEMP
Me too, after reading this list

Watch the skies, carefully.

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Posted: Feb 27 2005, 09:04 PM
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When I converted some of jordan's derived numbers to letters using the standard numerology system...

i got some interesting results.
these numbers translate to a reletivly small number of actual words.

53461
Cave skulls
Vulcan
Venus

918
Iraq
Haj

Cesium second

Cosmic seed
cosmic eden us
cosmic deus
cosmic DU seen
cosmic dues en
deus omen sicc
DEUS SCC NEO I'M
DEUS SCC NEO IM
DEUS SCC NEO MI
DEUS SCC EON I'M
DEUS SCC EON IM
DEUS SCC EON MI
DEUS SCC ONE I'M
DEUS SCC ONE IM
DEUS SCC ONE MI
DEUS MICE CONS
DEUS NICE CMOS
DEUS SINCE COM
DEUS ICES CMON
DEUS COMES INC
SCIENCE MOD US
SCIENCE MODUS
SCIENCE MUD SO
SCIENCE DO SUM
SCIENCE DOS MU
SCIENCE SOD MU

ya I know...Thin


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Posted: Feb 28 2005, 11:57 AM
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Have Phobos and Diemos Disappeared!
Cosmic Conspiracies were shocked to receive news that the Moons of Mars, Phobos and Diemos, have disappeared and that any pictures that are released by NASA of Phobos are years out of date. Below we have compiled the latest information available about this event that has been commented on by several top space scientists and astronomers.

We know from Malin Space Science Systems that the Mars Orbital Camera on the Mars Global Surveyor observed the shadow of Phobos on the surface of Mars on August 26, 1999, September 1, 1999, September 8, 1999, and September 25, 1999 and November 1, 1999. Due to the changing geometry of the MGS orbit relative to that of Phobos, the shadow is actually seen in MOC global map images about a dozen times a month. That being the case, would it really be so much trouble to show some Phobos shadows after June 4, 2000? With all the assets presently at its command, NASA could resolve the issue of Phobos in a heartbeat with a current shadow image without having to change any of its mission plans.

With the latest speculation that Phobos and Deimos have vanished, it is critical that someone comes forward with new observation data. With the recent global dust storm on Mars, and the increasing sightings of rare meteor events here on Earth, the sense of urgency for closure is being reinforced. Above all others, NASA has the assets to resolve this issue quickly and decisively. Yet, it hides in the shadows.

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Posted: Feb 28 2005, 12:28 PM
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Hey Twostones, thank you for the link.

Very interesting info indeed!


Hey DNA Bones, thanks for making sure that I would see it.
(Psssst, I see all! - heh)


IMHO, the Moons of Mars resemble asteroids more than they resemble moons.

One of the messages I received in 2002 was...

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And last night, I had a dream.

I saw our moon thru the trees, it was a left hand crescent shape brilliant orange color shining thru the trees.

The awesome thing was that it was 10-20 times its normal size.

It was an incredible dream.

I was then taken to an above view of the Earth, like I was onboard something.

And I saw the Earth below... coming closer... closer... closer... moving very fast as if the frames of a movie skipping frames in between.

Then I saw the Central USA, and then Impact!

It was as if I was riding on an incoming object that will impact the Central USA.

But the view I saw was like a map of the USA... and I saw Nebraska as the impact zone.

Rest assured, it was just a dream.




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Posted: Feb 28 2005, 01:07 PM
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Mars is a wasteland. What happened to its atmosphere?


Most likely the same thing that is happening to Earth.

The same species - planet destroyers - are here now.

Breeding worker slaves, mining the Earth for ore and ensuring its demise by poisoning the planet.

Just my theory of course.

But enjoy those all you can eat buffets and entertainment shows.

Why worry about the future of your children?




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Posted: Feb 28 2005, 11:39 PM
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the 3D rendition of Phobos was fabulous.
It does not look like a moon to me either.
An asteroid that was captured sounds perfect.

The Bart Jordan stuff was fascinating.

if the asteroid was moved there, then it was optomized as a space base
If it is gone,
NASA cannot hide the info forever......


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Posted: Mar 1 2005, 02:05 PM
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can you do the same also with this words

1 BROBDINGNAG

2 LAPUTA,

3 BALNIBARBI,

4 LUGGNAGG,

5 GLUBBDUBDRIB,

6 HOUYHNHNMS

These are the places visited in Gulliver's Travel....
ere is a piece from that book.. from Chapter Three

A VOYAGE TO LAPUTA, BALNIBARBI, GLUBBDUBDRIB, LUGGNAGG AND JAPAN

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This loadstone is under the care of certain astronomers, who from
time to time give it such positions as the monarch directs. They spend
the greatest part of their lives in observing the celestial bodies,
which they do by the assistance of glasses far excelling ours in
goodness. For although their largest telescopes do not exceed three
feet, they magnify much more than those of a hundred yards among us,
and at the same time show the stars with greater clearness. This
advantage has enabled them to extend their discoveries much farther
than our astronomers in Europe; for they have made a catalogue of
ten thousand fixed stars, whereas the largest of ours do not contain
above one third part of that number.
They have likewise discovered two
lesser stars, or satellites, which revolve about Mars, whereof the
innermost is distant from the center of the primary planet exactly
three of his diameters, and the outermost five; the former revolves in
the space of ten hours, and the latter in twenty-one and a half; so
that the squares of their periodical times are very near in the same
proportion with the cubes of their distance from the center of Mars,
which evidently shows them to be governed by the same law of
gravitation that influences the other heavenly bodies.


The book is written (or published) in 1726 even before the moons of mars were discovered.... as far as i know.

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in the same chapter he is flying in something that we would call a UFO nowadays...




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Posted: Mar 1 2005, 10:38 PM
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Discovered 1877 August 18 by Hall

Mars' mythological attendants: fear (Phobos) and terror (Deimos).

Stickney Crater
One of the most striking features of Phobos, aside from its irregular shape, is its giant crater Stickney. Because Phobos is only 28 by 20 kilometers (17 by 12 miles), the moon must have been nearly shattered from the force of the impact that caused the giant crater.
***Grooves that extend across the surface from Stickney appear to be surface fractures caused by the impact.
Near the crater, the grooves measure about 700 meters (2300 feet) across and 90 meters (295 feet) deep. However, most of the grooves have widths and depths in the 100 to 200 meters (328 to 655 feet) and 10 to 20 meters (33 to 65 feet) ranges, respectively. (Courtesy NASA)


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Posted: Mar 4 2005, 08:01 PM
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Twostones:

Those collections of letters are the least anagramable collections of letters I have yet tried.

I tried the letters NOT in them, adding a set of vowels, and combinations of the different "words"
still dry'

What I also can't find, is any "proof" that the premise of the thread is incorrect...

Now, if the last thing a probe saw was an object, then the the probe malfunctioned,
If I was a G-man I would be right on that..

One thing I did find was from
Johnathan Swift
John wants faith.
and
telling in an odd sort of way
FAITH wants Johns

FEAR AND TERROR
A RAFTER DRONER
FERRO DNA TRADER (FERRO refers to an iron composition and is asociated with mars and war, why is mars associated with war?)
FERRO DART NEAR
FERRO RADAR NET
DNA A FRET ERROR (fret as in clasical guitar fret)
DNA AFTER ERROR
DNA RAFT ROE ERR
FERRO A RNA DR ET
TERRA NEAR FORD ( the crossing?)

FDA A RENT ERROR ( why did rumsfeld approve aspertame, bovine growth hormone, etc?








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