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  Posted: Oct 7 2004, 12:16 PM
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would almost have to agree with the catamination aspect as it does seem to me to be thrually embeded in the language, which makes for extreme difficulties when attemping to describe an absolutness of non existence, of which i can find no argument



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Hi Thessa,

This guy is trying, but ties-in to the same programmed lies. Below is one instant;

"Be aware and warned that the more one identifies himself/ herself with the so-called scientific ideas that man is an animal, even though a social animal, the more one becomes an animal and is identified with vicious, aggressive, violent, selfish, truly beastly concepts which don't have anything Godly, good, spiritual, or proper nor anything from the image and likeness of the Most High. And that way one truly becomes a devil, a satan, a demon and an evil spirit of the hells. And, of course, the opposite is true. The less one identifies oneself with such pseudo-scientific concepts and the more one dissociates oneself from the animalistic, beastly tendencies, and instinctual, raw emotions and concepts, the more one becomes an image and likeness of the Most High.”

His ideas are skewed where he identifies with "trigger words".


Identifying oneself as an animal is calling a spade a spade. Converting into "animal kingdom characteristics" as result of proper identification of one's animal is quite WRONG as well. This guy claims the silliest stuff!



"Identifying with concepts" is the same as "you think, therefore you are". He gets a big duh for the obvious, no matter how it is stated.

"Meaning that the body, every single cell, was in constant awareness or under the total and complete control of mind, of spirit, of the Inner Mind and particularly of the Most High, from the presence of the Most High in the Inner Mind. Every movement and behavior of the body and reaction of the body was influenced by and was the result and correspondence of the thoughts, ideas, concepts and spiritual states of each unique individual."

This falls under programming and auto-programming.

"No automation of the processes was necessary or conceivable and no autonomic nervous system existed. Everything without exception and exclusion was under voluntary control of the mind. This is the lawful way, this is the Godly way, this is the normal way, this is the natural way. All else, autonomic systems, involuntary states are not a natural, not a Godly, not an appropriate way."

This is in being through the programming/matrix upon creation. Involuntary conditions unGodlike? His "views" stem from a programmed lie.

Another example of searching for the truth based on a lie.

Another snip that indicates a PROGRAMMED perception:

"Instead there is only one state which is the positive state, the state of love and wisdom, the state of good and truth, the state of objectivity and righteousness which is the Most High, the Lord Jesus Christ Who is absolutely positive;"


JC, The absolute truth? ROTFLMAO!!!!! Why do you want an icon to represent the truth? Aren't we capable of such representation?

This guy is an example of severely tainting what could have been a decent message. The same thing could have been said without the tainting of religious programming. Apparently, he believes along the lines of Father, Son & holy ghost. Which of course, is absurd under the scrutiny of "the ONE law".


His writings as read, have some truths mixed with alot of programmed misconceptions (LIES).

He (perhaps) believes in the trigger words he uses so freely.


He has a clue clouded by his "acceptance of concepts" (his own terms).




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  Posted: Oct 10 2004, 02:15 PM
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I face frequently with the contradictory feelings of posting / not posting these texts.

It’s very hard to decide because the base of these teachings is completely different from everything that we know or read or learned. We would need to get into the definitions, concepts, explanations, meanings, descriptions, and so on so we could have a background to understand most of what is related.

But that is impracticable. It would take hundreds of pages literally. And still you need to study them, not just lightly read them.

I post these teachings knowing that they will not be completely understood but hoping that something in them will trigger the curiosity to learn more and that can only be made by reading the books from start to end.

Your reply once again (there were others with similar questions) made me realize that I’m doing the wrong thing with the right intention. I understand your reaction and what you said. You analyzed the text with your own conceptual system and that is not even wrong. Usually it’s the way we all think and rationalize so I can even agree with you if I put myself in your shoes.

I need to rethink about continuing or not to post these texts. My intuition will decide. Probably I’ll give up.

This is an example of how they get us and how we are kept in slavery and in ignorance. It’s through concepts, understandings and knowledge (or their absence). I know you know that and still...

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Hi Thessa,

By placing yourself in my place, I know you know.

You're not wasting your time. I needed something to illustrate. LOL


How could I possibly read further when my anti-programming, programming throws red flag alerts to traditional (lies) programming when I encounter it?

I am programmed to deny that which denies me. That is the religious hooey that guy purveys in his writings. At one time, I entertained and even believed the ABSURD. When I execised by true freedom of choice and considered everything else with the same veracity, the absurd became self evident.

So how could one such as I, see anything other than someone seeking the truth based on a lie? I have considered the absurd once. No need to ponder something that is baised on a concept that denies us "the ONE law". That is of course, if one doesn't subcribe to "the ONE law", one will limit themself by not actualizing it. Accepting pre-programming. (The masses!)

Thessa, it's a great illustration of all that I convey!

You may want to summerize the gist if it's more than Jesus, satan, biblical references, animal is barbaric, explanation of the concepts of bad and good.

Accepting his words is accepting his programming based on his programmed traditional lies.


Am I blind or misdirected because I see this guy as misguided (bad programming)?




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Posted: Oct 10 2004, 04:25 PM
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I try to make the rounds to as many of the threads and topics as I can manage and post my views and opinions. I've been holding off on this one.

Thessa showed me that site almost a year ago from my early days at GLP. I found it very interesting and saw some truths. But I also saw many deceptions or misdirections and the actual text made me feel very uncomfortable.
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His writings as read, have some truths mixed with alot of programmed misconceptions (LIES).


YES, I couldn't have said it better - AND "the trigger words" really affected me.

I cannot read it anymore.

I am not trying to put down the author or the website, I am merely expressing my feelings and opinion.

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I thought that the understanding of this subject could benefit from presenting the other “side” . The positive individual qualities, as this analysis is taken, in human nature.


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Swedenborg called this ability of humans to be rational

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The force of this assertion is intended to eliminate any problematic aspect to the experiencing or recognition of Harmony. The specific account (description) given for what constitutes Harmony is not crucial. It may variously take alternate descriptive forms as follows: Truth, Beauty, the Absolute, the Life-force, and so on. All of these are considered equivalent in that the apperception of Harmony, etc., is part of the definition of "people," man, etc. The proper conditions for the occurrence of the apperception of Harmony may be, however, and is, in most accounts, problematic. An equivalent relation exists in physics between the possibility of perceiving a fact of reality and the proper conditions for such an occurrence (e.g. that the curvature of Earth is directly perceivable is not problematic but the positioning of an observer who can realize that perception requires special circumstances).

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