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Note: This hammer is merely proof of ancient mans existance as the dimensions of the hammer are a puny 6 inches long by 1 inch wide.

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"In June of 1934, members of the Hahn family discovered a rock, sitting loose on a rock ledge beside a waterfall outside London, Texas. The site primarily consists of Cretaceous rock (75 to 100 million years old). Noticing that this weathered rock had wood protruding from it, they cracked it open, exposing the hammer head. To verify that the hammer was made of metal, they cut into one of the beveled sides with a file. The bright metal in the nick is still there, with no detectable corrosion. The unusual metallurgy is 96% iron, 2.6% chlorine and 0.74% sulfur (no carbon). Density tests indicate casting exceptional quality."


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The races of humanity are highly diversified in stature. They range from pygmies some 1 m (3 ft) in height to the tall, slender Watusi of Ruanda-Urundi, whose adult males commonly grow to heights of over 2.1 m (7 ft).

About one in a million people suffer from giantism or the growth disorder acromegaly, which causes various infirmities in additional to exceptional height. The tallest man ever reliably measured was 8 feet 6 inches by the time he was 8 years old, and 8 ft 11.1 in (2.72 m) when he died in 1940 at the age of 22. The shortest person was a Dutch woman who was only 23.2 inches (58.9 cm) tall at the age of 19.

Modern ‘experts’ firmly reject the idea that there have ever been entire races of giants, and are adamant that our distant ancestors were primitive apelike creatures much smaller than ourselves. Worldwide legends and traditions, on the other hand, assert that there were races of giants in days of old. Theosophy agrees, and says that just as many modern animal and plant species had giant ancestors, so did modern humans.1 Over the past few hundred years, humans have grown slightly taller, but the long-term trend, measured over millions of years, is towards a reduction in stature, with relative ‘dwarves’ and ‘giants’ probably existing in every age.

A surprising number of giant human skeletons have in fact been discovered, some of them reaching heights of 4.6 m (15 ft) or more. In many cases, the present whereabouts of the remains is unknown, and many details about the skeletons and the circumstances of their discovery are lacking, including indications as to their possible age. But to dismiss every such find out of hand as a delusion or hoax would seem to owe more to rank prejudice than to healthy scepticism.

During the exploration of North American mounds in the 19th and early 20th centuries, hundreds of bones were recovered, including remains of human giants, mostly 2.1 to 2.4 m (7 to 8 ft) tall, but sometimes as tall as 3.1 m (10 ft).2 The official view is that they were just isolated cases of giantism among the Indians, but some of the skeletons seem to have belonged to an extinct, non-Indian race, and many Indian tribes have traditions of giants once occupying the land. In the case of some burials, the skeletal remains appeared to be uncommonly old and crumbled to dust when exposed to the atmosphere. Scientists from the Smithsonian Institution were involved in some of these finds; many of the bones were shipped off to its huge museum and have never been seen again! Only a small proportion of over a million artifacts in their collection are on public view – but no giants are among them.

A stone mound over 21 m in diameter was excavated near Brewersville, Indiana, in 1879; it contained several skeletons, at least one of which was over 2.9 m (9 ft 8 in) tall. The artifacts were kept in a basket near a grain mill on the property where they were found, but in 1937 a flood swept the mill away and with it the contents of the basket.3 In 1925 a group of amateur investigators dug into an Indian mound at Walkerton, Indiana, and unearthed the skeletons of 8 prehistoric humans, ranging from 2.4 to almost 2.7 m tall, all wearing substantial copper armour. Unfortunately the evidence was scattered and lost.4

In 1833 soldiers digging a pit for a powder magazine at Lompock Rancho, California, hacked their way through a layer of cemented gravel and found the skeleton of a man about 3.7 m (12 ft) tall, surrounded by carved shells, huge stone axes, and blocks of porphyry covered with unintelligible symbols. The giant had double rows of upper and lower teeth – a commonly reported feature that is also mentioned in ancient traditions. When local Indians began to attach religious significance to the skeleton and artifacts, the authorities ordered them to be secretly reburied. The remains of a giant man with double rows of teeth were also dug up on Santa Rosa Island, off the California coast.5

A decayed human skeleton claimed by eyewitnesses to measure around 3.3 m (10 ft 9 in) was unearthed by labourers while ploughing a vineyard in East Wheeling, West Virginia, in November 1856.6 In 1891 workmen digging a basement for a building near Crittenden, Arizona, discovered a large stone sarcophagus 2.4 m below the surface. When opened, a granite mummy case was found which, judging from its size, once held the body of a human over 3.7 m tall. According to the carving on the mummy case, it was designed for a person with 6 toes – reports of 6-toed giants are by no means rare.* Near Brayton, on the headwaters of the Tennessee River, scores of six-toed footprints were found, impressed in what is now solid rock. One of the tracks is 40 cm (16 in) long and 33 cm (13 in) across at the toes, and nearby are giant hoofprints measuring 20 by 25 cm.

Giant bones and artifacts have been discovered in the Lovelock-Winnemucca area. In February and June 1931, skeletons were found in the Humboldt lake bed near Lovelock Cave. The first was 2.6 m long, wrapped in gum-covered fabric. The second was almost 3.1 m long, according to the Lovelock Review-Miner’s article of 19 June 1931. On 29 September 1939 the Review-Miner reported the discovery of a 2.3 m skeleton on a ranch near the town.13

There are countless, often very sketchy reports of giant human skeletons being discovered in other parts of the world. A human skeleton 5.2 m (17 ft) tall was unearthed at Gargayan in the Philippines, and bones of other human creatures over 3 m tall have been found in southeastern China; one palaeontologist put their age at over 300,000 years. At Agadir in Morocco, the French captain Lafanechère discovered a complete arsenal of hunting weapons including 500 double-edged axes weighing 8 kg, of a size that would require a man some 4 m tall to wield them. Other giant stone implements have been found in Moravia and Syria, and the bones of their users were discovered close by. In Sri Lanka explorers found the remains of humans about 4 m tall, and at Tura in Assam, near the border of Bangladesh, a human skeleton measuring 3.4 m was discovered. Bones of humans from 2.6 to 3.1 m tall were found under a French dolmen.14

According to a 1926 press clipping dated Nayarit, Mexico, Capts. D.W. Page and F.W. Devalda discovered the bones of a race of giants averaging over 3.1 m (10 ft) in height.15 In 1929, Dean Byron Cummings of Arizona University and a Mexican government scientist found 3 giant skeletons of 2 men and a woman at least 2.4 m tall and children 1.8 m tall. Their work was halted by local Yaquis, who battered some of the remains to pieces. Reports from Casas Grandes, Mexico, in 1923, announced the discovery of several skeletons of Indians 4.6 m (15 ft) tall, buried side by side with vases of precious stones. A report in the New York Herald-Tribune of 21 June 1925 stated that a mining party had found skeletons 3.1 to 3.7 m (10 to 12 ft) tall, with feet 46 to 51 cm (18 to 20 in) long, near Sisoguiche, Mexico. In 1938, a well-known traveller found the remains of giant men and women at least 2.4 m tall in Ecuador.16

Zoologist Ivan T. Sanderson once received a letter from an engineer stationed on the island of Shemya in the isolated Aleutian chain south of the Bering Strait during the Second World War. While bulldozing a group of hills for a future airstrip, the workmen unearthed the skeletal remains of what appeared to be extremely large humans. Most of the giant skulls measured about 56 to 61 cm (22 to 24 inches) from base to crown. The story was later confirmed by another person in the unit. The Smithsonian Institution apparently took possession of the remains, but they were never heard of again. ‘Is it that these people cannot face rewriting all the textbooks?’ Sanderson wondered.17

Remains of giant humans 4.3 to 4.9 m (14 to 16 ft) tall were reportedly found during road construction in southeastern Turkey in the late 1950s.18 In 1958 Louis Leakey announced that he had found a giant human molar on Middle Pleistocene living floors at Olduvai in Tanzania, in association with many giant herbivores, including two giant pigs the size of a hippopotamus, with teeth like normal elephant tusks.19 Further details about the tooth are lacking.

In old Pleistocene river gravels near Bathurst, New South Wales (Australia), amateur scientist Rex Gilroy has found huge stone artifacts – clubs, pounders, adzes, chisels, knives, and hand-axes – weighing 3.6 to 11.3 kg, scattered over a wide area. He believes that the oldest finds date back 240,000 years, and that some must have been made and used by humans over 3 m tall. He has also found what he considers to be teeth and fossilized footprints dating from the Pliocene which point to the existence of even taller giant hominids.20 The aborigines believe that, long before their arrival, the Australian continent was inhabited by many races, including giants.

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Thanks, PuPP. More on giants! Yes, there were giants on the earth before the Great Flood, and after. We have just as much evidence that they are still here, as described in the Solomon Islands article about Guadalcanal during WWII.

A snip from your post: "... one palaeontologist put their age at over 300,000 years." I am of the firm belief that these geologists/palaeontologists date their findings for hundreds of thousands to millions of years ago to throw us off track. In one of the posts above, there is a mention of St. Christopher! He was one big dude, and it wasn't thousands of years ago that he walked on earth. Then there was Admiral Byrd who saw the underground caverns where they live. That was either during or right after WWII, so we are looking at a time period of about 60 years. Of course, none of this was ever publicized. Top secret? Not anymore!

There are some verses in the Bible that says these "humanoids" were to live underground. They aren't man. Will look them up and post my findings.

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>In the 1800s, in Pennsylvania...buried about 1200 A.D....

Sorry to be so late with this. That was Sayre Pa. My mother (92) knew the persons (antiquarians) who made the find. She says they were honest people not given to exaggerations. We are from the area (Chemung NY).

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Great thread pupp.....I believe giants were worldwide and that only so many were killed in flood. These were originally from the Nephalim/Watchers, it is said that they came down and mated with womankind that the women had to have Cesarean births as the baby's were so large. Most of our Giant fairy tales are derived from folklore from this era.
The original Nephs were said to be up to 18 feet! (Phew) but have since interbred and now have become much smaller thro the generations.
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I was once told by an elderly gentleman a few years ago that a group of giants had crash-landed on earth and that there was even a photograph of one of their females that was supposedly discovered somewhere in the US wearing some sort of an amulet that resembled a UFO. I just wish that I could find some way to verify his story concerning these giants or at least find out what happened to the picture that he said that he had personally seen.


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Ancient Civilization Beneath Death Valley?
EXPEDITION REPORTS NINE-FOOT SKELETONS
August 4, 1947 edition of the San Diego Union.
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TRACE OF GIANTS FOUND IN DESERT

LOS ANGELES, Aug 4. (AP)-- A retired Ohio doctor has discovered relics of an ancient civilization, whose men were 8 or 9 feet tall in the Colorado desert near the Arizona-Nevada-California line, an associate said today.

Howard E. Hill. of Los Angeles speaking before the Transportation Club, disclosed that several well-preserved mummies were taken yesterday from caverns in an area roughly 180 miles square, extending through much of southern Nevada from Death Valley, Calif. across the Colorado River into Arizona.

Hill said the discoverer is Dr. F. Bruce Russell, retired Cincinnati physician, who stumbled on the first of several tunnels in 1931, soon after coming West and deciding to try mining for his health.

MUMMIES FOUND

Not until this year, however, did Dr. Russell go into the situation thoroughly, Hill told the luncheon. With Dr. Daniel S. Bovee, of Los Angeles -- who with his father helped open up New Mexico's cliff dwellings -- Dr. Russell has found mummified remains together with implements of the civilization, which Dr. Bovee had tentatively placed at about 80,000 years old.

"These giants are clothed in garments consisting of a medium length jacket and trouser extending slightly below the knees." said Hill. "The texture of the material is said to resemble gray dyed sheepskin, but obviously it was taken from an animal unknown today."

MARKINGS DISCOVERED
Hill said that in another cavern was found the ritual hall of the ancient people, together with devices and markings similar to those now used by the Masonic order. In a long tunnel were well-preserved remains of animals including elephants and tigers. So far, Hill added, no women have been found.

He said the explorers believe that what they found was the burial place of the tribe's hierarchy. Hieroglyphics, he added, bear a resemblance to what is known of those from the lost continent of Atlantis. They are chiseled, he added, on carefully-polished granite.

He said Dr. Viola V. Pettit, of London, who made excavations around Petra, on the Arabian desert, soon will begin an inspection of the remains.

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1947! Those were the days of freer, investigative journalism. Today, there are archaeological finds that go unreported. Openess is no longer permitted.

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WELCOME TO THE SOLOMON GIANTS.COM

Contained in this Website is extraordinary information that brings to the forefront worldwide issues that has been tormenting intellectuals for centuries. It is about two phenomenal discoveries that I have found existing in the Solomon Islands and this Website is a further attempt once again to bring them to the attention of the Modern World.

The first discovery is about how the people of the Solomon Islands have shared their Islands with ‘previously undiscovered to the modern world’ race of hominoids for millennia right to this present day, and for a variety of reasons explained, this has not been known about by the rest of the World, until now. The second discovery is about the whereabouts of hidden UFO Bases that I have found existing in the Solomon Islands for quite possibly the same amount of time, and how there seems to be a link between the Giants and the Extraterrestrials making the Solomon Islands their home.

For many reasons, these groundbreaking discoveries have compelled me to share them with the rest of the World. It has always been my sincere hope that hundreds of researchers follow up my work by going to the Solomon’s to continue on. Science is definitely a progression of new discoveries, and these are some of them.

The Solomon Islands people name the undiscovered hominoids mentioned “The Giants”, which is linguistically ironic for the isolated Solomon Islanders, as throughout history, including in the Bible and other prominent books, the same name has been used in other parts of the World to describe these huge elusive hominoids. To explain some facts about the Giant race existing in the Solomon Islands, I will use the Giants of Guadalcanal as an example.

“The Giants of Guadalcanal” are named as such by the Guadalcanal people, and from my observations they seem to be very similar to the Sasquatch, Bigfoot, Yeti, Yowie and such suspected to be found in other parts of the world. At this moment of time, there are hundreds quite possibly thousands of these Giant people (and I use the word people for a reason) living inside the huge tropical rainforest Jungle Mountain ranges of Guadalcanal, as the Guadalcanal people will tell you. All claims made on this Website about the Guadalcanal Giants can be support by the indigenous Guadalcanal people of the Island, as it totally plays the major part of their entire grass-roots culture, past and present.

Apart from being known for building timber base structures with sheltering sago palm and other leaf, they have vast cave systems running within the majority length of the mountains of this 200 plus kilometre long tropical Jungle Island. Some of the Guadalcanal Giants live in organised lifestyles with social structures, and I have come across many Guadalcanal people that believe they can go from east to west through their cave systems without seeing the light of day, and many believe that their population numbers in the thousands. The Guadalcanal Islanders also believe that there is a huge city of them living inside or underneath the big mountains of the Island. “Mount Tatuva” is definitely one of this city’s main entrances, and if anyone ever wished to film them, the closest villages to Mt. Tatuva, where they are also seen regularly is a good starting point. But that is not required, because they are all over the place and are seen on a daily basis somewhere around the Island. Actually, I can think of a dozen places around the Island apart from the Mt. Tatuva area that are good starting places for the beginnings of gathering documentary photographic evidence of them. For that matter, I can think of dozens of places around the Solomon Islands, and Vanuatu that would be the same.

Virtually, you can ask anyone from Guadalcanal, and for that matter the Solomon’s, if any of their recent ancestors, or themselves has had past exchanges with these Giants, and one finds a very positive response with many tales supporting their existence. I know for a fact that upon arriving within the Solomon Islands, one can ask the first person they see as to whether the Giants can be found there, and they’ll start pointing in every direction, and if not, they’d quickly steer you onto someone who would tell all about them.

To my understanding, there are three different species or types of these Giants. The larger and more commonly seen are over 10 foot tall, but I have come across numerous Islander accounts with evidence that supports that they do grow much taller than that. These Giants have very long black, brown or reddish hair, or a mixture and when they want to have a good look at you, they pull it aside from their face with one hand. They have a protruding double eyebrow, bludging red eyeballs, and flat nose wide gapped mouth facial features, and have an unmistakeable odour, which the coastal people would once use as a sign of their presence, depending on the wind. From the large hairy type, they range down in size with reducing amounts of body hair. The smaller version, although bigger than normal human beings, are like a wild man living in the jungle and are not as hairy as the big ones. This is the way the Guadalcanal Islanders describe them. Inherently, when they see these small giant half human people, they make efforts to kill them. These smaller versions are lower down in the Giant social order, living predominately outside their caves systems in the jungle, although all three (types) are found in the Island’s jungle. Incidentally, there are many newspaper reports, even recently, of these hairy Giants in Papua New Guinea, and also may I say that I know for a fact that the Vanuatu people have also had a similar past with their Giants as the Solomon Islanders have had, as those that follow up on my research will find out.

I must point out, that the Solomon Islanders, and I suppose the PNG and Vanuatu people are lacking understanding that their Giant race living with them are something big in scientific discoveries to the rest of the World. Whether by intentional design or not, it is appropriate that the Solomon Island’s National logon is “The Place That Time Forgot”.

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Hi, LaughingWolf! I reported the site concerning the Giants of Guadalcanal on the first page, but that's all I posted. Nice of you to offer more! It is a long read, but an interesting one, considering that we can't call this "ancient history".

I think the author said that the Japanese were run off Guadalcanal in fear of their lives because of the giants there during WWII. That's only 60 years ago.

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Ivan T. Sanderson, a well-known zoologist and frequent guest on Johnny Carson's TONIGHT SHOW in the 1960s (usually with an exotic animal with a pangolin or a lemur), once related a curious story about a letter he received regarding an engineer who was stationed on the Aleutian island of Shemya during World War II.
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While building an airstrip, his crew bulldozed a group of hills and discovered under several sedimentary layers what appeared to be human remains.

The Alaskan mound was in fact a graveyard of gigantic human remains, consisting of crania and long leg bones. The crania measured from 22 to 24 inches from base to crown. Since an adult skull normally measures about eight inches from back to front, such a large crania would imply an immense size for a normally proportioned human.

Furthermore, every skull was said to have been neatly trepanned (a process of cutting a hole in the upper portion of the skull).

In his book, The Natural and Aboriginal History of Tennessee, author John Haywood describes "very large" bones in stone graves found in Williamson County, Tennessee, in 1821. In White County, Tennessee, an "ancient fortification" contained skeletons of gigantic stature averaging at least 7 feet in length.

Giant skeletons were found in the mid-1800s near Rutland and Rodman, New York. J.N. DeHart, M.D. found vertebrae "larger than those of the present type" in Wisconsin mounds in 1876. W.H.R. Lykins uncovered skull bones "of great size and thickness" in mounds of Kansas City area in 1877.

George W. Hill, M.D., dug out a skeleton "of unusual size" in a mound of Ashland County, Ohio. In 1879, a nine-foot, eight-inch skeleton was excavated from a mound near Brewersville, Indiana(Indianapolis News, Nov 10, 1975)

A six foot, six inch skeleton was found in a Utah mound. This was at least a foot taller than the average Indian height in the area, and these natives- what few there were of them -were not mound builders.

"A skeleton which is reported to have been of enormous dimensions" was found in a clay coffin, with a sandstone slab containing hieroglyphics, during mound explorations by a Dr Everhart near Zanesville, Ohio.(American Antiquarian,1880)

Ten skeletons "of both sexes and of gigantic size" were taken from a mound at Warren, Minnesota, 1883. (St. Paul Pioneer Press, May 23, 1883)

A skeleton 7 feet 6 inches long was found in a massive stone structure that was likened to a temple chamber within a mound in Kanawha County, West Virginia, in 1884. (American Antiquarian, v6, 1884 133f. Cyrus Thomas, Report on Mound Explorations of the Bureau of Ethnology, 12th Annual Report, Smithsonian Bureau of Ethnology, 1890-91)

A large mound near Gasterville, Pennsylvania, contained a vault in which was found a skeleton measuring 7 feet 2 inches. Inscriptions were carved on the vault. (American Antiquarian, v7, 1885, 52f)

In 1885, miners discovered the mummified remains of a woman measuring 6 feet 8 inches tall holding an infant. The mummies were found in a cave behind a wall of rock in the Yosemite Valley.

In Minnesota, 1888, were discovered remains of seven skeletons 7 to 8 feet tall. (St. Paul Pioneer Press, June 29, 1888)

A mound near Toledo, Ohio, held 20 skeletons, seated and facing east with jaws and teeth "twice as large as those of present day people," and besides each was a large bowl with "curiously wrought hieroglyphic figures." (Chicago Record, Oct. 24, 1895; cited by Ron G. Dobbins, NEARA Journal, v13, fall 1978)

The skeleton of a huge man was uncovered at the Beckley farm, Lake Koronis, Minnesota; while at Moose Island and Pine City, bones of other giants came to light. (St. Paul Globe, Aug. 12, 1896)

In 1911, several red-haired mummies ranging from 6 and a half feet to 8 feet tall were discovered in a cave in Lovelock, Nevada. In February and June of 1931, large skeletons were found in the Humboldt lake bed near Lovelock, Nevada.

The first of these two skeletons found measured 8 1/2 feet tall and appeared to have been wrapped in a gum-covered fabric similar to the Egyptian manner.
The second skeleton was almost 10 feet long. (Review - Miner, June 19, 1931)

A 7 foot 7 inch skeleton was reported to have been found on the Friedman ranch, near Lovelock, Nevada, in 1939.(Review - Miner, Sept. 29, 1939)

In 1965, a skeleton measuring 8 feet 9 inches was found buried under a rock ledge along the Holly Creek in east-central Kentucky

Bathurst, Australia... In fossil in the 1930's deposits found around Bathurst from a depth of 6 feet below the surface a fossil lower back molae tooth was found. The owner would have been at least 25 ft. tall.

Also found were huge stone artifacts -- clubs, pounders, adzes, chisels, knives and hand axes all of tremendous weight, scattered over a wide area weighing from 8 to 25 pounds, implements which only men of tremendous proportions could possibly have made and used. Estimates for the actual size of these men range from 10 to 12 feet tall and over, weighing from 500 to 600 lbs.

At Gympie, Queensland, a large fragment of the back portion of a jaw which still possessed the hollow for a missing lower back molar tooth was discovered. The owner of the tooth would have stood at 10 feet tall.

Blue Mountain In the Megalong Valley in the Blue Mountains NSW, a depression found in ironstone protruding from a creek bank was the deeply impressed print of a large human-like foot. This footprint measures 7 inches across the toes. Had the footprint been complete it would have been at least 2 feet in length, appropriate to a 12 foot human. The largest footprint found on the Blue Mountains must have belonged to a man 20 feet tall!

Mulgoa A set of 3 huge footprints was discovered near Mulgoa, south of Penrith, N.S.W. The prints, each measuring 2 ft 7 inches across the toes, are 6 ft. apart, indicating the stride of the 12 ft. giant who left them.

Macleay River Noel Reeves found near Kempsey, N.S.W. monstrous footprints were discovered in sandstone beds on the Upper Macleay River. One print shows toe 4 inches long and the total toe-span is 10 inches suggesting that the owner of the print may have been 17 feet tall.

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Twenty Giant Skeletons Found

A mound near Toledo, Ohio, held 20 skeletons, seated and facing east with jaws and teeth "twice as large as those of present day people," and besides each was a large bowl with "curiously wrought hieroglyphic figures." (Chicago Record, Oct. 24, 1895; cited by Ron G. Dobbins, NEARA Journal, v13, fall 1978)

Nine Foot Skeleton Found

George W. Hill, M.D., dug out a skeleton "of unusual size" in a mound of Ashland County, Ohio. In 1879, a nine-foot, eight-inch skeleton was excavated from a mound near Brewersville, Indiana(Indianapolis News, Nov 10, 1975 Giant Skeletons




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I came across this info and thought it was very interesting.
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ELS

Giants are defined as 'Els', El Anakims, based on the mythed 'EL-der Race, tied-in with the ancient Hebrew traditions, Evadamic heritage, having a very tall stature. Nephs or Nephli. Also known as the Titans. Not to be confused with the Elohims
El ( Could be 'elite') May be from the Orion group with an outpost base inside the Planet Mars.

Some prophesize that there will come a time of a great battle between the Els and the Serpent Race and use Revelations for the reference. REVELATION 12:7: 'Now war arose in Heaven, Michael and his Angels fighting against the Dragon and his Angels...'

The "Book of Enoch" from the Dead Sea scrolls says how these men married Earth women, who bore 'giants 3000 cubits high'. (Note, a cubit is 1 Sacred Jewish inch, so 3000 cubits would be about 250 feet.). These people may have helped build the pyramids.

The Men of Renown - the red and blonde haired Aryan giants of that epoch are dug up today all over the world, including the United States. *Red and fawn -haired mummies - 8-11 feet tall. See Giants But the words for red and the red haired race have found their way into biblical names - all of the following denote the Race that formerly ran the 'Garden of Eden' Adamites Scythians, Phoenecians - from the root phoinos or blood red. The Garden of Eden in Greek literature - the Garden of the Hesperides – and as Dionysius Periestis once said '.. in the Hesperides whence tin comes dwell the sons of noble iberes' - tin comes from south UK at cornwall. The garden was known as the Fortunatae Insularae, the fortunate isles of Bretannides, or Ultima Thule - the farthest land -

Biblical History and Prophesies of the Els:

Enoch in his Gospel suggests that this Kingdom of Ruling Aryans, proud, arrogant and cruel were stockpiling weapons of immense sophistication and power for conflagration - the Satans - or Saturnians as referred to in the Ethiopic Book of Enoch were fomenting rebellion and conflagration. Amongst them, the Cabiri necromancers who created abominable things led by the group of fallen angels such as Azazel, Samael etc The War between the false Gods of Eden and the Powers lasted 13 years it is said, and Greek myth shows Athene dragging off shapechanging giants. The Titans were defeated finally when 2 great meteorites struck the Atlantean kingdom of Thule, reversing climate and ocean and the continental plates. That place now known as Scotland, the epicenter Scotlands western isles at Staffa - near to where the evil capital was said to be - is now very cold and wet.

Still commemorated in the local place names - Ben Cruachan, Argyll – Mount of the Bloody Serpent. Or the land of Mhor/giants - Morayshire. What we thought we knew about Egypt according to Beaumont is the result of the more contemporary migration of 1 million 'Scottish/Thule' survivors - taking their surprisingly similar legends of floods, high tek and alien hybrid unions to every corner of the planet - and the memory that somewhere in the land of the pharaoh a nordic word for chief or prince or Aryan or noble - are the real Faroe islands or the isles of Fergus. to the north of Scotland. [not Egypt - a land named after a latter day King]

As Roman Historian Pomponius Mela said ' the pharusii dwelt by the Atlantic where they stretched as far as the hesperides' [hesperides = farthest ultimate west] (North American)Vitrified Forts blasted by laser and nuclear activity scatter the globe and are found in Moray in Scotland - the land of the giants - at the Center of the universe - eastern Scotland. The Pictish pre Celtic stones eg. Golspie stone illustrate the twin meteorite strike - whilst the Tartan wanderers, the displaced turn up in stone dolmens all over the world taking their tartan even to China.
Io, or Isis, the Mother of the race as it were is commemorated by the holy isle of Iona very near the epicenter of the strike on the corrupt capital, an unassuming island next to the holy of holies on the Isle of Mull.

Homer states that the saved Noah and his crew rested in Boggie and indeed Tap O Noth is Glen Noe in the Bogie District of Scotland now a massive vitrified fort on a 2000 foot high artificial hill.

Another claim to linguistic ancestry comes from the claim that the Ethiopians were the first men and women that knew sex/gender differentiation - but Beaumont suggests that it was an error by Herodotus that placed them in Africa and denoted them negroid. He suggests that the Ethiopians of legend were Red haired, bronzed and ruddy sailors. Akin to the Canaanite sailors. They were the Anthropoi, the earliest race, the Adamites, Atlanteans.

Britain in myth was always known as the land of the dead or Hades and it is suggested that Hades, the isle of Skye, the Styx and many western place names and practices are still commemorated in place names and folklore. The earliest race/Aryan/ reds/ Ethiopians - were also collated under other names such as Meropes, Meru, Meroe [Merovingians] and merope it is suggested is the root of Europe. Lenormant in his L'Histoire Ancien de L'Orient suggested that the human race originated in Upa Meru - Northern Europe. The source of evil Aryan splendor that corrupted the Garden of Eden with gorgons, titans etc is said to be North Scotland, moray and the Orkney islands or Orcus - the dragon family.

The Culhua - serpent race or giants/ Aryans/ Ethiopians/Phoenecians/ reds/ Edomites may have had it coming. The leader of the Satans was imprisoned underground, though the evil machinations of the dark Cabiri sorcerers that practiced later in Denmark and founded the very early practices of masonry with which Solomon and David would become familiar - may yet to this day plan their revenge on the offspring of that very first interracial marriage.

This ancient fear of menstrual blood and the occult practice of drinking it, and its causal connection with contemporary anecdotal and early mythological shapeshifting - may be one reason that in masonic practice women are thought unclean vessels and not allowed within the hallow of the Lodge - where some of the participants may get a very nasty surprise if their best friend changes into a very large Reptilian Being and tears all his good clothes.

It may be that the Cabiri plan to reunite and repossess their inheritance, to reclaim the territory that was taken from them as punishment long long ago. To that end, they may incite all the damned prejudice that fomented the Atlantean cataclysm so long ago

It may be that Edinburgh , Scotland, City of Theion and tribe of Gad, the highest most noble Jewery may wish to reclaim all that is best and noble in Interstellar Fraternity - and it may be as Nostrodamus predicted x66-68 that Michael will also await to gather for a test of strength one more time as the Els of that most Noble and High line strive to assert the Judgments of the Emperor God over the darkness that comes to thwart it. The prize is nigh and the Angels of Light have returned to counter the machinations of the evil Cabiri. Templars, Merovingians, Bloodlines, Theosophical Aryan 6th Root Races that are once again pure and hermaphroditic - cleansed of the ancient flaws; culls, cleansing, world convulsions, cloning, evil scientific practice and injustice - nothing may have changed since those times - but lets not lose hope that nothing will ever change.

We may have fallen in disgrace - but we shall rise again and touch the stars, ignoring the pretension and vanity that keeps us from our birthright. The human race may turn out to be the only reason this planet could ever have been called a home.

But what of the Atlantean Kingdom of Thule, buried so long ago by the revenge of the Gods for the desecration of their bloodline. We may note that all the columns and splendors of what we thought Greece to be are but recent demonstrations of the art in a place that was not historically called Greece, and that the majesty of the Cheops pyramid was built after the Scottish catastrophe - yet there are only the remnants of nuked vitrified forts in the land of the Giants at Moray in a place traditionally called 'the Center of the Universe' We know from all subsequent renaissance art that the Goddess IO of Iona, aka, Isis or Aphrodite is traditionally represented as coming from the sea, the clam being her symbol. [even L Ron Hubbard’s Wall of Fire Initiation in scientology maintains that man is descended from clams - mind you he also said that DC10 airliners flew between the stars] The aquatic connection of Atlantis and Scotland persists in the area of the detonation - 'the blue men of the minch' [Kirk 1697AD], the folk myth 'I am a man upon the land, I am a silkie upon the sea' and the connection of the God Poseidon, God of the Sea depicted in his chariot pulled by aquatic dragons. The Sidh or She tradition of Scotland remembers that the most gifted seers with advanced powers of spirit resided amongst Scotland’s Western Isles, the area of the Original palace of the Gods. Scotland’s largest city in the west, Glasgow, takes its name from the root of the Gaelic word for blue. And around the Hebridean Isles, eg. The Flannan Isles there are still stories of the peoples that stay underwater in the Minches.

Elsewhere in Templar records and in folk myth, there are records of great technological stockpiles under the Scottish Mountains; robots or 'dollmen', particle weapons, and great 'alchemical laboratories'. It may be that much of the splendor of Atlantis was partially submerged and inhabited by a semi aquatic species from which came the princess of the original dynasty that mated with the original Aryans. The marriage of the Mero and the Vingians, and the subsequent creation of humanity - a sexual gendered species happened in Scotland.

The symbol of the Bloodline and the Goddess descent is indeed the clamshell a device used by Robert the Bruce a King of Scotland. Indeed the historic pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostella in Celtic Spain actually more anciently went farther to the port of Finistere also known anciently as the End of the Earth - the pilgrim traveled clamshell in hand to what must have been a muster point at which to take flight to the stars. The pilgrim route is known as the Milky Way. From the Center of the Universe in the land of the Giants or Mero in Moray northeast Scotland to the End of the Earth - folk history records that these people took ship to the stars.

It may then be that after the fall and the destruction - the remainder of the architects of Eden took their skills and deployed them amongst the cultures they then wandered into.

It is a truth that History belongs to the victors - and over the millennia - much of what we take today for history has been distorted and edited to glorify the interests of the strongest and the few - usually covering up crimes of great magnitude.

The truth about the Holy Land of Scotland went to print by an author called Barry Dunsford - who amongst other things pointed out that Pontius Pilate was born in central Scotland at a place called Fortingale, near Killin. It always seemed strange that a family - the Pilate family central to the destruction of one of Gods and Histories central characters was located not very far from Edinburgh, Scotland.

Dunsford’s source was the books by W Comyns Beaumont on the riddle of prehistoric Britain, and Britain - the key to World History.

It is therein suggested that the ancient Merovingians wandered the planet but that the origins of the Jews may well be rooted in the Scottish Atlantean Mystery. After the deluge - the ruling tribe of Aryans returned. These people were known historically as the People of the Cat, the lion rampant their symbol - the popular flag of Caledonia Scotland and also of the King of Norway - also anciently a country part of Atlantean Thule. Edinburgh, having a very sphinx like hill later called Arthur’s Seat, which looks like a lion couchant was also known as the City of the Lion. The patron Saint of Edinburgh is David.

It is pointed out by these authors that the biblical references to Jerusalem refer to a fertile land, full of mines and minerals and crops with a seaport called Joppa. That fits exactly the locality of Edinburgh - not the Jerusalem in Palestine - which has a very distant port called Jaffa and whose only extract in a barren land may be salt or potash.

Given that history favors the victor - then something sure must have gone real wrong to make us all think the things we now think about Jerusalem. But the records show that Rome built a boundary chain around Jerusalem some 80 miles and indeed, there exists the chain of forts called the Catrail that is almost exactly 80 miles. The People of the Cat, or the Gadeni or the Gad were the ruling tribe of Jews, and the entire fertile area of Edinburgh and the Lothians was populated by some 1 million people - a place which was biblically recorded to be a hub of civilization. Today, all the Roman signposts have been defaced and deleted – for something terrible happened in Edinburgh . At a time of serious instability in the Roman Empire, the Jews of the tribe of Gad, the Silurians, revolted and the retribution from Rome was terrible indeed. There was a massacre of some 80-100,000 people by the Legions and the Emperor ordered that not a stone remain standing and that salt be put on the Earth.

Beaumont’s book details the map of Edinburgh /Jerusalem as it was. The citadel being Edinburgh Castle on the impregnable rock of 3 precipitous sides - more ably conforms to biblical descriptions than our current understanding of the citadel in Jerusalem in Palestine. The Dung Gate corresponds with the Cowgate in Edinburgh, the Temple Mount on the way of God, Edinburgh’s Royal Mile, the Temple Mount there stands St Giles Cathedral and a commemorative Heart in the cobbles outside which signify the Heart of the Lothians. Opposite St Giles on the Temple Mount - the law courts. And one of the oldest Masonic Lodges also stands near the Royal Mile, whilst the Mount of Olives was Arthurs Seat, Golgotha was Gogar, and Holyrood Palace was the Palace of Cedars - and Joppa has always been a port of Edinburgh.

The broad estuary upon which Edinburgh stands, City of the Lion, of the Gad, of the sovereign tribe of Jews, is called the Firth of Forth, translates as the way of ways - and this crossing of a broad estuary at Jerusalem is noted in the Bible. With Pontius Pilate staying just North of the Roman Fort chain which fenced the area in like some ancient Ghetto comprised of one of the richest and most powerful hubs of civilization in the ancient world with its lead and silver mines, fertile lands and rich people - the Scottish Jerusalem was a powerful place. It is recorded that King David, on the run from Solomon consulted a seer of Gad. Edinburgh has had many names; Kaer Eden, Dun Gad, Giudi-ail-Guarth – Place of the Jews of Gad, Chaonia - place of Chaos. In 134AD, the Jews proclaimed a new 'messiah', Bar-Cocheba, son of the star, and the chief rabbi anointed him King of the Jews. A coin was minted showing him horsed with a crown, and on the reverse side was a Thistle - the symbol of Scotland - the coin symbolized the first year
of redemption.

Beyond the Boundary Forts, near the Pilate family residence that place was known as Epidamnus - beyond the damned. The tribe of Illyna - the Silurians were mercilessly and brutally put down by the Romans in an ancient act of genocide - and the city of Edinburgh today remembers those ancient constructions by its very old underground workings, not the brickwork of the later city fathers. Today, Edinburgh is still known for its seven hills, the ancient lineage of the Aryans and Giants, the Earl of Orcus or Orkney, descendent of Thule and Atlantis, keeper of the Bloodline and his Rosslyn Chapel.

It may have been that the Templars brought vast treasure here to rebuild the Temple of Jerusalem in the City of the Gad, and it may also be that the prophesy of the Brahan Seer 'as Rome was, London is and Edinburgh shall be' is part of the future of the destiny of Mankind.

In popular press, Rosslyn Chapel is a repository of all the world’s ancient artifacts; spear of destiny, cup of destiny, grail, Excalibur, scrolls, treasure, but in reality the truth is far stranger than the fictions.

My recent activity in Edinburgh, Scotland has brought me a lot of attention. MI5 Dept of Parapsychology, Special Branch - all seem to be keeping tabs on me as my group continues to put stuff out about shapeshifting reptoids - and the true historic and global significance of Edinburgh, Scotland. Draco, Scotland, Edinburgh, Bloodlines and MI5 all seem to go together. Edinburgh was a holy city at the time of Atlantis - and the remains have been carefully enshrined in masonic secrets and buildings in and around Edinburgh.

An 18th Century architectural folly on an aristocratic estate just outside Edinburgh uses technology and design to calculate the shadows of latitude. The Theory being that Jerusalem in Palestine, nearer the equator produces a different length of shadow from a cubit rod, than a Jerusalem in Scotland - due to the curvature of the Earth - this shadow is called the Tena Brosa and all part of the big secret of masonry and perhaps even the Scottish Rite itself.

It is most likely that the original dispute that sparked the war amongst the shining ones or Els happened in Edinburgh - for that part of Scotland was also once part of Thule of Atlantis. The author Comyns Beaumont describes the real significance in his 1946 book 'Britain key to World History' the rights to which are owned by the CIA and an International Esoteric Temple called the Star Temple What is on the cards is probably that Scotland will again revert to being an ancient priest kingdom and Edinburgh will again revert to being a Holy City. - in this New World Order.

The Prophesies of the Brahan Seer 'as Rome was, London is and Edinburgh shall be' and of Nostradamus of the political frost that exists between the Windsor dynasty and Scotland, the UK-USA agreement and the king of terror [stanzas 66-68] also predict the return of the Els - the angels of god – which, by the way, many many people are seeing in and around Edinburgh , NASA are filming them etc etc. The pearls of great price - the shining angels or star beings of the Magi. These Stars or Angels are interdimensional beings - and witnesses and abductees alike note that they have appeared in Edinburgh and elsewhere in Scotland - sometimes very up and close. The witnesses say that these are the Angels of God - returned to pass Judgment on the Earth and its various human and non-human races.

So also being on top of the shapeshifter thing in the UK - we have found ourselves the target of some mysterious enquiries. One such happened recently.

A very strange lady on the pretext of wanting to find out about the angels and shapeshifters, describing herself as a freelance researcher met me at lunch time today - and she asked me various questions. She appeared to know nothing about anything - but asked many many almost personal questions about aliens, my abduction, the angels, Edinburgh and tried to get all the evidence I had for shapeshifters in the UK. An attempt to see what we had. She parted on the note that how did I get into all of this - I said that many heavy people over the course of the years who have accused me of all sorts of dirty criminal deeds made me curious for it was as if I was supposed to know something that I didn't know and that this made me find out the stuff that has made me today what I am - 'ah its come full circle' she said. But I wasn't convinced that this was a spook agenda and when I got home I felt so tired and weary that I fell on my bed and started having a lucid dream as if I was being scanned. And I'm pretty sure I heard her say that she was going to tell the truth, and was interested in the Humans and the North Star. It’s true that in my eyes at night when I close them, I see the constellation of Orion and that these light move and coalesce into one pearly shining light.

The old temple mount of Calton Hill in Edinburgh had Greek style temple pillars erected there in the 18th century to signify the Disgrace of Edinburgh - as is there an architectural folly on the outside of Edinburgh that shows Edinburgh s position as the Jerusalem of Atlantis.

I am hoping beyond hope that these light, these beings being seen now by many of us around here, are the returning forces of good. I was told by Russell Penman - who calls these beings down from the sky at will in front of witnesses that when the cataclysm came we should walk towards these lights and be saved or translated ie. beamed up ----- so it may be that various parties are starting to catch on to the possibility of something incredible happening again in Edinburgh as it rises from its Age Old disgrace.

The returning King is celebrated by Tolken in his Lord of the Rings and not to be confused with the disinformation newly published in Laurence Gardner’s book on the Ringlords.

The returning King and EL called Aragorn/Elessar of the tribe of elder people called the Dunedain [the ancient name for Edinburgh ] retake the Earth after the last battle, their Kingship returned from the last of the human stewards or Stewarts. This 'alleged fiction' actually fits in with the various prophesies AND the architecture, geography and ancient history of Edinburgh /Dunedain. Non-human politics in Edinburgh have just taken a new step forward.

Thus I had to ask myself that if she was interested in the Humans and the North Star - so who might the North Star be?? All the Stars may well be Angels - the Els - some may have power to materialize - some may just be physical, some shapeshifters, all, powerful. The pearly stars may have guided the Magi to Bethlehem, and recent research points to the burial place of Mary in the Isles of Britain.

I've heard about Stars in the East, the West, the morning star and the evening star, usually always associated with the Satans and the bad guys and the Fallen Angel Lucifer, so the North Star had to be the exiled leader of the Merovingians, the returning 'Christ' or King, Leader of the Peoples of the North.

Lets hope that this is the good guy, maybe its Uriel - guardian of the gates of Hell, for it was said that hell or Hades referred to the underground prisons and damnation of the fallen in Scotland and perhaps the El called Uriel - is a guardian of the interests of Humanity policing the Underground society as it strives to regain dominion.

For their punishment, the Fallen were put underground - the Satans/red peoples were put in 'hell'. The other part of the enigma is the red dragon that will point many researchers to the two meteorites and their fiery tails. However, the secret thirteenth house of astrology, the red serpent points to the constellation of Serpens - a fact secretly commemorated in star maps as making all constellation plus or minus to the ground zero of the Serpens constellation. Ophiucus, its other name was the 'Greek' God of medicine - depicted as a big guy in a toga with a serpent coiled around him.

It is possible that the Reptoid bluebloods from Serpens were red in color, and that this may be a fact commemorated by the Red of the Lion Rampant of the Peoples of Gad, Scotland.

Lets hope that the North Star returns soon, he is probably not the El called Michael who most likely will or has returned with the Interstellar contingent - but the North Star probably refers to the exiled King, the Fallen Angel who has worked to redeem the sins of Atlantis over the millennia.

The local variation on the Global theme of the fall and the desecration of the Blueblood princess has a variation in the Lothians. For King Lot of the Lothians [Tolken’s Lothlorien] was given the title by King Arthur. Lot was a descendant of the Atlantean Dragons and Magicians of Thule and Orkney [Tolken’s Orcs] The princess has been called Enoch, or Thenew or Denw or Thanay, and the prophecy goes as I read it, that it was said that the new hybrid human dynasties would breed and out reproduce and outfight the Aryan lines, and that the princess - mother of the human species was to be destroyed by crashing her flying vehicle into a local mountain.

She escaped but was again caught and cast adrift on a raft to die - but was saved by a contingent of her relatives who rescued her - and probably took her to a ship from whence she headed back to the stars

This same story is told in countless ways in countless cultures the world over - but all remember the Mother of the Human Race pictured with Clams throughout history.

In Edinburgh, though, the Emperor Hadrian instructed that the city be raised to the ground AD70 and its name forever struck from history and that Jerusalem would be somewhere else of his choosing. It was decreed by the Emperor that the locality of Jerusalem would be renamed - and it would then take its name from the farthest north boundary fort at Falkirk, Scotland.

I don't know how that fares with the modern Jerusalem that we know of today, other than the biblical descriptions accurately fit Edinburgh - though I have always suspected that one day the New World Order will again claim Edinburgh to be the Spiritual Center of the World after the destruction of Christianity.

But the Jury of History is still out on that one.

Having been captured by overwhelming force, the reds or Satans, Aryans or Nobles were imprisoned underground initially under the remaining lands of Thule or Scotland. Scotland was anciently known as the land of the dead or Hades. The Exiled Star or Angel of the North was set a task of watching and policing the Gates of Hell. His was the wandering Nobility given that task that he may redeem himself in the days and millennia that were to follow before the return of the Galactic Empire.

The Fallen, however, were to regroup and re-organize, setting themselves the task of revenge and the retaking of their Empire. In the underground halls, they reassembled their social structure and equipment, taking inventories - and set about the surreptitious task of the recovery of their stockpiles and any and all high tech equipment they could find.

Then became the task of rebuilding their manufacturing capacity and arsenal for the day that they would again fight the war with the Gods.

In the meantime, Humanity, the freely spreading virus that they foresaw would one day overwhelm them - Humanity the cause of the War - was to be their next target. They reasoned that Humanity would spread and populate the planets surface in the next few millennia, so they made sure that that species would never come to the knowledge that would make them HiTek and an outright competitor. For if that happened, then humanity would make Interstellar Allies and representation before the Fallen were ready to fight.

So the ideas of bad beliefs and misleading cosmologies were planted and the seeds of disinformation sewn. Everywhere, the physics of free energy and interstellar travel arose – the inventors died, from the 16th century till the 21st century - knowledge and truth would die on the vine. Only the inner school of the Illuminati sorcerers taught the truths of the cosmos, and many Humans there were that paid dearly for those. The ancient systems theory, holistic in its approach was suppressed and even today modern science creates knots and paradoxes by having been taught to reduce down and decontextualize. Everywhere the hated Human Race would be encouraged to war and be ignorant - for the enemy divided, could be conquered. There the alleged forgeries of the protocols of the learned elders of Zion ring true - for the political systems theory in use in the protocols appears to be the ancient systems theory that have led Tesla, Plichta and others to Free Energy. A systems theory also taught by the Secret School of the Theosophical Illuminati - these alleged protocols speak of the body politic as an organism and its means of operation in terms of a functional relativity that is indeed highly advanced and never taught in any human University.

As far as the Protocols were used to encourage anti-semitism it is fair to say that in reality NO HUMAN BEING could EVER be one of Gods Chosen People - for the Master Race that probably wrote these protocols are asexual, Hermaphrodites and Non-Human - these are probably the only original Jews at least as far as they are concerned. The protocols of Zion are the most hateful anti-human and intelligent masterpieces of antiquity, forgery or not, they are betrayed by their advanced use of an alien systems theory - and therefore most likely the work of the Satans, the imprisoned Aryans of Atlantis - the Hidden Masters of Theosophy.

Where that puts the whole Jewish thing - I am unsure - for I suspect, as the prophesies tell, that the Satans will re-emerge soon - and the whole matter of where Jerusalem really was - and why many learned Human Jews believe what they do will come into question - as part of a Satanic Takeover.

The Satans or Aryans or the Fallen have not been idle as they labored to divide and rule humanity for they also sought to forge interstellar links with other civilizations. They were working to a timescale - for they knew that Humanity would be destroyed by Earth Movement - and had to ensure that they held all the keys by the early third millennium AD - the schedule of the return date for the Empire.

The Interstellar Civilizations they sought out would all have chips on their shoulders and be sworn enemies of the Empire - however it was never in the Satans minds that they would escape in ships for the Interstellar Entities who uphold the Empire can reach Intergalactic space in a matter of seconds and quite simply there isn't a ship anywhere that could outrun them.

The stupid brute civilizations they wanted to engage the Empire above the planet Earth were to provide merely a diversion - whilst the Fallen made their escape through a portal or 'stargate'. in the meantime, the Human Race on the surface was partly used to supply the allies of the Fallen as bargaining counters - produce, software, hardware, DNA, artifacts - they sold it all.

The stockpile of the Satans was supplemented and increased, and their intelligence network kept tight control of human military power and research, whilst suppressing every instance of the truth. This in anticipation of the return of the anointed one - the King of the World - Chief Satan - Rex Mundii - as per the 19th Century Tibet pronouncement at Llasa.

The Human Race, however, source of all their ancient hatred and angst were to be set up for a hideous Cull - and indeed conspiracy evidence of; poisonous food and water, corrupted food chain, new diseases, bad learning, HAARP and MK - has emerged. Such poisons would leave their ancient foe helpless.

But the ambitions of the Satans may never be fulfilled for the returning Empire would simply crush them as they had before. Illuminati folklore is full of references to opening of ways and gates – and its probable that the hermaphroditic Aryans - those that are evil – intend to go.

They probably could have gone already, but their use of any gate would have been detected and found them unready to create a diversion or shield.

The shield invasion was more recently bought with Human Labor and Industry.

Like any couple of punks involved in a drug store heist caught by the police - they would naturally want to hold a gun to the shop keepers heads and demand a fast car etc.

They have some options however, and taking hostages is definitely one of them.
Recent leaks from US military intelligence suggest that soul capture technology has been recently manufactured, and this coupled with the other forbidden technology that they salvaged would also create a useful personal shield for the escaping thugs.

Where can they go - time travel, dimension travel, intergalactic travel, or a rusty old ship trying to outrun the Angels? Surrender or peace was never on their agenda - and indeed their all-consuming hatred may well be their undoing.

They may wish to completely destroy the planet when they leave, however.

What are the Empire options though - to infiltrate their ranks, take hostages, sabotage their stargate project or their anti-human works, or conduct a species specific technological or biotechnological warfare of their own and maybe ultimately, making them an offer that they can't refuse.

One thing is for sure - both sides will be lining up their targets - organizers, administrators, politicians, leaders, lieutenants - all put into lucrative isolation whilst they maximize their intelligence for the coming conflagration.

There may be Interstellar war above the Planet soon but it won't last long - for the Fallen will be trying to make their escape - perhaps even jostling for a place higher up in the queue at the stargate, for the first wave out may well be the last - for the remainder will be swiftly taken for another head to head with the Emperor.

Andrew T Hennessey

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/alien_races.htm




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Joe Taylor is an interesting individual because he is a paleontologist who knows his subject as well as being an artist whose casts and reconstructions are acknowledged by professional and museums nationwide. Although Joe and I have very different views on the age of the earth, he caught my attention when our local television station(the only one I can get on my tv) showed Joe digging up a mammoth out near Colorado City, Texas. My jaw hit the floor when they showed the bones in situ in Triassic red sandstone. It took me almost three years to find out who Joe was because it was one of those stories the local people read off cue cards, make some,"Gee ain't that sumpin'" remark and forget as soon as they break for commercial. What really blew my mind was the total lack of response from any of the major universities. A mammoth in Triassic sediment should have had every truck owned by the Dallas Museum of Natural History breaking speed limits all the way to the
Abilene cutoff. Yet three years of questions turned up nothing. When I saw Joe with that femur of the giant I recognized him immediately. That is how I know he is not standing beside some Mesozoic monster sloth or such. Joe knows his bones. Still as what I suppose you would call an Old Earth advocate I cannot accept that the sandstone is less than the hundreds of millions of years old that the mainstream says it is or that non mainstream, non christian Old Earth Creationists such as the Hindus and Michael Cremo agree it is. I cannot resolve this paradox in good conscience without positing a para temporal/ para dimensional portal.

Now there is another giant skeleton which was found in the usual bark lined sealed tomb July 1974 on Chalk Mountain near Weatherford. I saw it in David Childress's book but when I enquired further he did not provide me with anymore information. The story appeared in the Dallas Morning News but they wanted two dollars a copy for a photo copy and I could not locate the specific article or date without going downtown to their archive seventy miles away. If any of you live in Dallas I would appreciate your help on this. I heard a very obnoxious senior Texas archaeologist boast that he "knew where the giants were buried" and ulike the rest of the people figuratively fawning at his feet, i knew he was probably telling the truth. I also knew that truth would go to the grave with him and his cronies before they would reveal it to me. So I will have to find it myself. Luckily I've narrowed it down to a searchable area which is fortunately public access.

Finally, in talking to the quarryman with the stone spheres and a bench covered in mammoth molars, I was told that the rest of the bones crumble to powder almost moments after they are removed from the wet sand they are found buried in. Sound familiar? scratchinghead.gif


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Posted: Oct 7 2004, 08:54 PM
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Hey Tex, thanks for your input.
It's nice when this information and Joe Taylor gains some credibility as most people cannot seem to fathom that there really were "giants in those days". Too many hoaxes turn peoples minds off, sort of like GLP. lol.gif

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Now there is another giant skeleton which was found in the usual bark lined sealed tomb July 1974 on Chalk Mountain near Weatherford. I saw it in David Childress's book but when I enquired further he did not provide me with anymore information. The story appeared in the Dallas Morning News but they wanted two dollars a copy for a photo copy and I could not locate the specific article or date without going downtown to their archive seventy miles away. If any of you live in Dallas I would appreciate your help on this. I heard a very obnoxious senior Texas archaeologist boast that he "knew where the giants were buried" and ulike the rest of the people figuratively fawning at his feet, i knew he was probably telling the truth. I also knew that truth would go to the grave with him and his cronies before they would reveal it to me. So I will have to find it myself. Luckily I've narrowed it down to a searchable area which is fortunately public access.


I have a VHS tape of David Hatchers Childress, called Ancient Civilizations, real fascinating stuff. He was the first to put Nam Nadal (sp) into the public eye to my knowledge. One day maybe we'll do a thread on those islands, totally formed and built out of those octagon or hexagon shaped (basalt) rock columes. I'll have to find some photos and info.

And the sunken monuments off of Japan, or other newly discovered sunken sites. There's so much out there that we're still unaware of. Or at least I am.

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Giants of Ohio and the Mound Builders

Mary Sutherland



Estimates of the number of moundworks in Ohio alone—at the end of the Colonial period—topped ten thousand. Today, less than one-twentieth of these exist in reconstructed form.

The first record of giants in Ohio can be traced back to 1829. A near by mound was being used to furnish the material to build a hotel in Chesterville. As they dug into the mounds, the workers dug up a large human skeleton. [I]The local physician examining the skeleton said that the skull could have easily fit over a normal man's head with no difficulty. Another pecularity of the skeleton was the additonal teeth it had compared to modern man.


In the Ohio River Valley, Indian Mounds abound. In 1872,Seneca Township, Noble County, Ohio, in what is now called 'Bates' Mound three skeletons wre found. All three skeletons unearthed were at the very least eight feet tall in heighth with bone structure proportional to their height. Another amazing discovery about these skeletons is that they all had double rows of teeth.

Later, in 1878, another discovery in the county of Ashtabula County, Ohio. Mounds were excavated on land belonging to Peleg Sweet, a man of large features. In the first mound, theyt unearthed a skull and jaw which were of such size that the skull would cover Sweet's head and the jaw could be easily slipped over his face. Excavating further, they discovered these mounds contained the graves estimated between two and three thousand. Many of the skeletons found were of gigantic proportions.
According to Indian Legend there were two different races of strange humans that pre-existed their culture. One was the Archaic people who had slender bodies with long narrow heads.. The other group was the Adena people who had a massive bone structure with a short head. The Archaics were living in the Ohio River Valley prior to the Adenas. In what is assumed to be around 1000 BC, the Adenas moved into the area , coming up from the South, to claim dominion over the land. After a great war, the Archaics were destroyed by this more advanced and powerful race. From the Adenas the art of mound building was established .
David Cusic, a Tuscorora by birth, wrote in 1825 that among the legends of the ancient people there was a powerful tribe called Ronnongwetowanca. They were giants, and had a "considerable habitation." He states that when the Great Spirit made the people, some of them became giants. They made themselves feared by attacking when most unexpected. After having endured the outrages of these giants for a great long time, the people banded together to destroy them. With a final force of about 800 warriors, they successfully annihilated the abhorrent Ronnongwetowanca. There were no giants anywhere after this, it was said. This was supposed to have happened around 2,500 winters before Columbus arrived in America, i.e. circa 1,000 B.C.-the time that the Adena seem to have arrived in the Ohio Valley.

Modern day archaeology and anthropology have literallly sealed the doors to the true history of our ancestors. Archeological discoveries have become a one way door. What was discovered went to the Smithsonian Institute and others like it where the contents have been virtually sealed off to all but the elite few. But by digging through the archives of old newspapers, remaining documents, diaries and Indian legends we can form some idea as to what laid in our past.

The Scientific American, in 1883, published the following account:

Two miles from Mandan, on the bluffs near the junction of the Hart and Missouri Rivers, says the local newspaper, the Pioneer, is an old Cemetery of fully 100 acres in extent filled with bones of a giant race. This vast city of the dead lies just east of the Fort Lincoln road. The ground has the appearance of having been filled with trenches piled full of dead bodies, both man and beast, and covered with several feet of earth. In many places mounds from 8 to 10 feet high, and some of them 100 feet or more in length, have been thrown up and are filled with bones, broken pottery, vases of various bright colored flint, and agates ... showing the work of a people skilled in the arts and possessed of a high state of civilization. This has evidently been a grand battlefield, where thousands of men ... have fallen. ...Five miles above Mandan, on the opposite side of the Missouri, is another vast cemetery, as yet unexplored. We asked an aged Indian what his people knew of these ancient grave yards. He answered: "Me know nothing about them. They were here before the red man."

From the Ironton Register, a small Ohio River town newspaper, dated 5 May 1892,:

Where Proctorville now stands was one day part of a well paved city, but I think the greatest part of it is now in the Ohio river. Only a few mounds, there; one of which was near the C. Wilgus mansion and contained a skeleton of a very large person, all double teeth, and sound, in a jaw bone that would go over the jaw with the flesh on, of a large man; The common burying ground was well filled with skeletons at a depth of about 6 feet. Part of the pavement was of boulder stone and part of well preserved brick.
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Evidence for the occupation of this region before the appearance of the red man and the white race is to be found in almost every part of the county, as well as through the northwest generally. In removing the gravel bluffs, which are numerous and deep, for the construction and repair of roads, and in excavating cellars, hundreds of human skeletons, some of them of giant form, have been found. A citizen of Marion County estimates that there were about as many human skeletons in the knolls of Marion County as there are white inhabitants at present!

The History of Marion County, Ohio 1883
compiled from past accounts, published in 1883
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Mastodonic remains are occasionally unearthed, and, from time to time, discoveries of the remains of Indian settlements are indicated by the appearance of gigantic skeletons, with the high cheek bones, powerful jaws and massive frames peculiar of the red man, who left these as the only record with which to form a clew to the history of past ages.

The History of Brown County, Ohio
(complied from past accounts, published in 1883)
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She said also that three skeletons were found at the mouth of the Paw Paw Creek many years later, while Nim (Nimrod) Satterfield was justice of the peace. Jim Dean and some men were digging for a bridge foundation and found these bones at the lower end of the old buffalo wallow. She thought it was Dr. Kidwell, of Fairmont, who examined them and said they were very old, perhaps thousands of years old. She said that when the skeletons were exposed to the weather for a few days, their bones turned black and began to crumble, that Squire Satterfield had them buried in the Joliffe graveyard (Rivesville). All these skeletons, she said, were measured, and found to be about eight feet long.
Now and Long Ago-A History of the Marion County Area
by Glen Lough (1969)
(This citation on West Virginia courtesy Dave Cain.)
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Collected Accounts of James Mooney (1861-1921), tells of the visit of very tall people from the west:

James Wafford, of the western Cherokee, who was born in Georgia in 1806, says that his grandmother, who must have been born about the middle of the last century, told him that she had heard from the old people that long before her time a party of giants had once come to visit the Cherokee. They were nearly twice as tall as common men, and had their eyes set slanting in their heads, so that the Cherokee called them Tsunil´ kalu´, "the Slant-eyed people," because they looked like the giant hunter Tsul´ kalu´. They said that these giants lived far away in the direction in which the sun goes down. The Cherokee received them as friends, and they stayed some time, and then returned to their home in the west...
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A document dated March 3 1880 records an excavation in Brush Creek Township, Muskingurn County. A site was excavated on the farm of J.M. Baughman. In this particular muond was discovered the bones of men and women, buried in couples . The length of their skeletons exceeding eight and even nine feet! The excavation was started in early December 1870.

What is most interesting and IMPORTANT here is the discovery of a large stone tablet inscribed with an ancient eastern form of writing. These are what is now refered to as the Brush Creek Tablets.


Modern anthropologists have put forward the theory that once the giants existed in great number, and were the dominant race prior to the advent of modem and smaller races of men and women. Being warlike, they diminished their number in great wars (as the thousands of mound burials in the Ohio River Valley attest), and were eventually subjugated by the smaller, but more numerous races. Although the giants of yesteryears may have been destroyed, the genes still rise in modern man ie. children born with 6 toes or fingers, double rows of teeth and giant sizes.


We can find another example of the existence of giant 'bearded' men, through the tradition of the Chippewa, Sandusky, and Tawa tribes.,
"In this connection I would say that Mr. Jonathan Brooks, now living in town, stated to me, that his father, Benjamin Brooks, who lived with the Indians fourteen years, and was well-acquainted with their language and traditions, told him and others that it was a tradition of the Indians that the first tribe occupying this whole country, was a black-bearded race, very large in size, and subsequently a red bearded race or tribe came and killed or drove off all the black beards, as they called them."
The Firelands Pioneer (1858


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