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Posted: Oct 4 2004, 12:57 AM
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Your friend did not use DMT.
It was a bad drug probably PCP, or a substitute for true DMT sold by rogues

I can only go by what he said and how he acted while on it.

Whatever he was on, he could barely function and he was really liking it and afterwards he just drifted away, never saw him again.

I really have no knowledge on DMT, its orgins or its effects.

Is there also something called DMX? Perhaps I confused the two?







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Posted: Oct 4 2004, 02:28 AM
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I think DMX is some black rap artist...

If you want to smoke his bone, that's your perogative Mark. I'm neither a homophobe nor a xenophobe, but I'm not about to try it myself, no matter how high you think it will get you...

LOL

Honestly though, the Salvia sounds very interesting and I would like to experiment with it myself. You see, I just started doing Shamanic journeywork just last week. I am doing a session today and and probably again later this week. I was offered training by a very good friend of mine, Michael Schneider, who is best friends with Michael Harner (author of "The Way of the Shaman) and who was on the faculity of the Institute for Shamanic studies at one time.

Have to tell you though. I never used drugs (sans a mushroom once, have to share that experience sometime), but when I did my first journey session last week, I was able to go right into the underworld with NO problem. The entire journey was vivid and exact and well, I don't know if you would still recommend the use of a Salvia or not if one is able to experience things naturally. I think given what I've read about it, the safety level of it in comparison to synthetic or other more harmful and lasting drugs, it might be just be an enhancer as everyone proclaims.

Thanks for bringing this topic up...

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Posted: Oct 4 2004, 04:47 AM
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Just because it is an herb doesn't mean we should consume it. I am very suspicious of anything that alters our perception of reality, as I know that's what NWO wants to accomplish. I never did any sort of narcotics, even stopped drinking over a year ago. Puryfing my body...yeah! smile.gif




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Posted: Oct 4 2004, 07:22 AM
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I smoked some last week. It wasn't potent but I still enjoyed it.
I want to get some that is more potent. My girlfriend wants to try it really bad.




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Hi IGASOP,

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I just started doing Shamanic journeywork just last week. I am doing a session today and and probably again later this week. I was offered training by a very good friend of mine, Michael Schneider, who is best friends with Michael Harner (author of "The Way of the Shaman) and who was on the faculity of the Institute for Shamanic studies at one time.


Please you must share with us what you are learning...for us less fortunate in the ways of funds or contacts. I am so interested in learning about the ways/arts of the shaman. I would seek out a teacher if I could afford it or knew someone local.


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Posted: Oct 4 2004, 05:21 PM
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From--- "Notes on a Weekend with Terence McKenna
A First Encounter with DMT".

I first heard about DMT two years ago as the drug that made acid look like milk. The common experience among DMT users is that they claim to travel to another dimension where they meet and interact with intelligent beings. Found in many plants, including acacia trees and the deadly oleander, pure DMT has been chemically isolated, much as mescaline has been culled from peyote. DMT is also produced by the pineal gland and is rapidly metabolized by other chemicals in the brain. The actual trip is said to last only three to five minutes, during which time the subject enters an R.E.M. sleep-like state. Fifteen minutes after smoking, it's out of your system and not even the D.E.A.'s best lab techs can trace it.


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Posted: Oct 4 2004, 05:27 PM
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Vianova What beautiful photos!

Boy I feel dumb, I had no idea DMT was a plant. I had always thought it was a synthetic drug sort of like ecstacy. DER ME. I got out of the druggie scene back in the mid 80s so I'm not hip anymore, man I'm getting old!

But still I don't think I wish to try it.

You let us know how it was. smile.gif

I hope I posted them in respective spots.

Again they are some very stunning images.

You be careful now when you try that stuff, we don't wanna lose you.

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Posted: Oct 4 2004, 11:07 PM
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Hi Everyone
Thanks to PuPP
some great pictures!!!
of Red Amanitas
I just picked
up at 5500 feet at Mt Baker-Dock Butte
were edited into my first post.
In order
1.In the wild at the top of the mountain
2.An underground sprouting colony exposed by peeling away an inch of soil.
3.Transplant bucket with specimens
4.A transplanted and thriving shroom from the last trip
{This one grew to a 6 inch wide cap 5 inches high }
5. Closeup pf "veil warts"

I now have 4 budding 2 inch amanitas growing in transplant -thriving
and a subsurface colony transplanted and now sprouting

The yellow amanitas dried to an incredible golden-rose irridescent large cap.
This is all a series of experiments...

On DMT
If you are lucky enough to get true DMT
and have the opportunity
do not let it pass.
The transfer to dimensional contact with intelligent beings is a constant observation from all users.
DMT in psilocybin mushrooms is best expressed in Semilanceata.
It has the cleanest Psilocybin high and content.
The test for liberty caps or Semilanceata, is the telltale nipple,dark gills, and when you break the cap, a gelatinous film stays intact across the split gap.
Cyanescens can have more temporary narcotic and paralytic side effects ,
and I do not know the effects of Azurescens.
These are the 3 best for content .
Cubensis can easily be grown at home
and ordered over the net, and some new strains have greater strength.

The BIG TRICK
is
if anyone can ever cultivate Semilanceata....
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If anyone knows how, or in particular successfully accomplished growing liberty caps
please tell me,

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the intake of Semilanceata to accomplish what pure DMT does
is supposed to be 150-250 mushrooms dried.
That is a LOT.
30 -50 is a great high if they are cleam and dried right
and sometimes alcohol really releases the psilocybin from all the vegetable matter of the 30-100 shrooms trying to digest in your stomach.
A beer saved my life one day when I ate too much Cubensis on the wrong food in my stomach.
I was on the coach hanging on to my stomach in hallucinogen agony,
considering going in to Emergency to get my stomach pumped,
So I forced a beer down thinking I might puke it up, but instead
It neutralized the bad digestion and super released the psilocybin rapidly.
15 minutes later after the second beer, all stomach sickness was gone and I felt great.
That 15 minutes was like going from hell to heaven.
Oh what a relief it was !

One clown gave me P. shrooms that were picked in cow shit once....

Pick your own shrooms
or KNOW your picker well.




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Posted: Oct 4 2004, 11:17 PM
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Hey V,
The photo size is ok?


And did I place them in the right spots?


Mr. Jackal, thanks for that info!




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Posted: Oct 5 2004, 05:03 AM
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When I was younger, partying, because of my personality, even my stoner friends would NOT allow me to touch anything natural or otherwise that would alter "reality". Weed..that was it..I was lucky they let me have that. Never really much wanted to do anything "altering" though. I've always sensed and even seen things in my "normal" state..if I did anything like that...I may not come back!

Interesting topic to hear about though.


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Posted: Oct 5 2004, 12:23 PM
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Place bag here

I'm not ready to see the other side just yet, so I will stick with my Calafornia
bubble Gum strain, I've been growing it for years.

Call it what you want it's still hemp to me, and does what I want it to do.


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Posted: Oct 5 2004, 04:26 PM
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Pupp, if you want to learn about DMT click on the link I left for you on this thread(the 1st reply). Of course white gold makes DMT look like Mickey Mouse, and yes I was given a dose a few years ago.


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Posted: Oct 5 2004, 09:12 PM
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Pupp, if you want to learn about DMT click on the link I left for you

Hi Guest, thank you for the link.

If I get some spare time, I shall be sure to check it out. My knowledge on the subject is very limited.





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Posted: Oct 9 2004, 11:54 AM
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DMT the strongest psychedelic is produced by our own body so what is there to be afraid of? I studied some and feel that it is directky related to our 'dreamworld' the more 'lucid' the dream the more DMT released.


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