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> Forced Vaccination Of 11 and 12 Year-Old Girls

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Posted: Jul 6 2006, 08:10 AM
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Forced Vaccination Of 11 and 12 Year-Old Girls
LA Times
June 30, 2006
Panel Wants Vaccine to Be Routine

All 11- and 12-year-old girls would get shots against cervical cancer. Some conservatives oppose a mandate; states will have to decide.

Federal health experts recommended Thursday that all 11- to 12-year-old girls routinely get a newly approved cervical cancer vaccine, paving the way for private insurers and the federal government to pay for shots that could save thousands of lives in the U.S. each year.

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices also said females ages 9 to 26 could receive the vaccine on the advice of their doctors.

"This is a huge breakthrough for women's health," Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said after the unanimous vote by the expert committee.

The focus now moves to individual states, which must decide whether to mandate the vaccine for school attendance.

Women's health experts argue that requiring the vaccine is the most effective way to combat the disease.

"Unless you force people to get it, penetration is low," said Cosette Wheeler of the University of New Mexico, who conducted clinical trials of the vaccine.

But some educators and conservative groups say decisions about the vaccine should be left to parents.

"We think this is a matter of parental rights and parental control," said Peter Sprigg of the conservative Family Research Council. "Parents have the rights to make these decisions for their kids."

Called Gardasil, the vaccine blocks four types of the human papillomavirus, or HPV, two of which are believed to be responsible for 70% of the 15,000 cervical cancer cases diagnosed in the U.S. each year. Worldwide, 400,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer each year, and half die.

The four types of HPV blocked by Gardasil cause 90% of genital warts.

The vaccine is most effective when administered to girls before they become sexually active. According to the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 26% of girls have had intercourse by age 15.

Health experts said the vaccine could go a long way toward reducing the 4,000 cervical cancer deaths that occur in the U.S. each year.

Manufactured by Merck & Co., the vaccine is among the most expensive ever produced. A full three-shot series costs $360.

Although private insurers and the federal Vaccines for Children program will cover the vast majority of females, Claire Hannan, director of the Assn. of Immunization Managers, said thousands still fall between the cracks. They include those whose insurance plans don't cover vaccines or have high deductibles. The federal program also does not cover people older than 18.

To provide the vaccine to everyone who should get it, the states would have to pay for those who could not afford it.

Dr. Leah Devlin, state health director for North Carolina and president of the Assn. of State and Territorial Health Officers, said most states did not have the money.

She said the cost of providing Gardasil to all 11- and 12-year-old girls would nearly double her state's vaccine budget, which already had trouble paying for required vaccines.

The federal committee's recommendation will become policy if it is accepted by the CDC, which normally follows the recommendations of its advisory panel.

The CDC's approval is expected in a matter of weeks.

Two national health insurers, Aetna and WellPoint, the parent of Blue Cross of California, said they would follow the committee's recommendations and begin reimbursing for the vaccine immediately.

Cost isn't the only obstacle to widespread adoption of the vaccine. In California, for example, legislation is required to mandate a shot.

Conservative groups have opposed requiring the vaccine, saying it might send young girls an implicit message condoning sex before marriage.

Some school officials also objected, noting that only three vaccines - those against polio, diphtheria and measles - were required in all 50 states.

"This is not a communicable disease that would keep kids out of school like mumps or rubella," said Gerald Tirozzi, executive director of the National Assn. of Secondary School Principals, whose members include middle school and high school administrators.

"To make this a condition to enter school - I think parents would become very upset, and many would see this as a signal to their daughters that they can become sexually active," Tirozzi said. "I think there would be a lot of push-back."

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Posted: Jul 6 2006, 09:24 PM
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Whatever else can or cannot be said for vaccines, the forcing part is always bad.......
But, on my maternal side of the family, both my mother and sister were nailed with the cervical cancer, which, was caught early enough that it could be frozen out!! Otherwise, it brings unpleasant treatments, and\or it can kill.
It may be a genetic pre-disposition, and maybe not linked only to promiscuity (as it's a virus) and if a gentleman is carrying or is affected by it when he marries, the wife gets it (for those of us less promiscous or not at all).
If a parent should desire such for their daughters (like they fear she may be genetically pre-disposed) they can say that it protects them in marriage instead of assuming that it gives them incentive to have sex.
Even with this said vaccine, promiscuity can be deadly, condoms are not by any means real protection against anything: I've known many peers that have had "condom babies" or "pill babies" (when they were attempting to prevent such), that's exactly what they called their offspring!
We all know that the process that gives us children also gives us (both genders) aids, and a whole host of other S.T.D. S (some of which are hard to be rid of).
There is no such thing as "safe sex", and the one way not to have to endure such a horrendous ordeal is not to participate whenever the urge strikes us!!
Some are so up in arms over abstinence education, but ONE TIME can ruin one's life. Most folks aren't going to have their kids play "chicken" with oncoming trains, they are going to have the kids STAY OFF THE TRACKS, THAT'S how you avoid getting hit by the train.
Not a good survival rate there, and, it's even slower and more painful with some disease or a cancer to deal with!!!


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Deaths Associated with HPV Vaccine Start Rolling In, Over 3500 Adverse Affects ReportedBy John-Henry Westen
September 20, 2007 
TORONTO, ( - As Canada, in large part due to aggressive behind the scenes lobbying, rolls out the not-comprehensively-tested Merck HPV vaccine for girls as young as nine, a look at developments on the vaccine south of the border should cause Canadians serious concern. 

In the United States a similar lobby campaign by the same company launched the mass HPV vaccination of girls beginning in June last year.

In just little over a year, the HPV vaccine has been associated with at least five deaths, not to mention thousands of reports of adverse effects, hundreds deemed serious, and many that required hospitalization.

Judicial Watch, a U.S. government watchdog, became concerned while noting large donations to key politicians originating from Merck. A freedom of information request from the group in May of this year discovered that during the period from June 8, 2006 - when the vaccines received approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) - to May 2007 there were 1,637 reports of adverse reactions to the HPV vaccine reported to the FDA.

Three deaths were related to the vaccine, including one of a 12-year-old. One physician's assistant reported that a female patient "died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine." Two other reports, on girls 12 and 19, reported deaths relating to heart problems and/or blood clotting.

As of May 11, 2007, the 1,637 adverse vaccination reactions reported to the FDA via the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) included 371 serious reactions. Of the 42 women who received the vaccine while pregnant, 18 experienced side effects ranging from spontaneous abortion to fetal abnormities.

Side effects published by Merck & Co. warn the public about potential pain, fever, nausea, dizziness and itching after receiving the vaccine. Indeed, 77% of the adverse reactions reported are typical side effects to vaccinations. But other more serious side effects reported include paralysis, Bells Palsy, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and seizures.

Judicial Watch informed that a subsequent request for information on adverse reactions to the HPV vaccine, covering the period from May 2007 to September 2007, found that an additional 1800 adverse reactions have been reported, including more deaths. Exactly how many more deaths occurred will be released in the coming days, Judicial Watch's Dee Grothe informed

The report on the moneyed lobbying efforts of Merck in the U.S. was reported in February.
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However the Canadian lobby effort by Merck's Canadian affiliate Merck Frosst Canada has been underway using powerful lobbyists with close connections to the politicians who have signed off on massive government funded vaccination programs.

The Toronto Star recently reported that Merck Frosst Canada Ltd hired public relations giant Hill & Knowlton to push the immunization strategies using some well-connected lobbyists: Ken Boessenkool, a former senior policy adviser to Prime Minister Stephen Harper; Bob Lopinski, formerly with Premier Dalton McGuinty's office; and Jason Grier, former chief of staff to Health Minister George Smitherman.

Harper's Conservative Government approved Merck's HPV vaccine Gardasil in July and later announced a $300 million program to give the vaccine to girls from ages 9-13. That of course is only the beginning of what Merck likely hopes will be a much larger vaccination of all potentially sexually active women in Canada who are not already HPV infected. In August, McGuinty's Ontario Liberals, on the advice of his Health Minister George Smitherman, announced that all Grade 8 girls will have free access to Gardasil.

One of the major complaints by physicians is that the HPV vaccination program has been implemented before adequate testing has been completed. Long-term effects of the vaccine remain unknown. Many are asking why the seemingly reckless rush?

At least one answer to that question comes from the fact that Merck currently is the sole provider of an HPV vaccine with its Gardasil product. A competing HPV vaccine, Glaxo Smith Kline's Cervarix, is set to hit the market in January 2008. As more children are vaccinated with Gardasil, fewer will be able to later receive the necessary repeat boosters of a competing, incompatible vaccine. Merck is in a race to capture as much of the market as it can, consuming many millions of taxpayer dollars.

U.S. sales of Gardasil are expected to reach $1 billion in the first year of its availability.

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