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Posted: Feb 9 2005, 12:21 AM
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An international moratorium on the use of one of the world's most controversial GM food technologies may be broken today if the Canadian government gets seed sterilisation backed at a UN meeting.

Leaked documents seen by the Guardian show that Canada wants all governments to accept the testing and commercialisation of "terminator" crop varieties. These are genetically engineered to produce only infertile seeds which farmers cannot replant.

Jointly patented by the GM company Monsanto and the US government, the technology was condemned in the late 1990s by many African and Asian governments who called for a permanent ban.

Monsanto and other GM companies which were developing similar technologies voluntarily pulled out of research after concerns were also raised about the "terminator" genes spreading to non-GM crops, and international outrage that poor farmers would not be able to use seeds from their crops, as they have always done.

But leaked instructions to Canadian government negotiators at the Bangkok meeting of the Subsidiary Body on Scientific, Technical and Technological Advice, a group which advises the UN's Convention on Biological Diversity, show that Canada will request today that all countries open their doors to the technology.

The papers, leaked to the environment group ETC, also show that the Canadian government will attack an official UN report critical of the potential impact of "terminator" seeds on small farmers and indigenous peoples. The report recommends that governments prohibit the technology.

The Canadian government team in Bangkok was last night unavailable for comment.

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Posted: Feb 9 2005, 02:33 AM
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These technologically advanced beings which are taking over the world and rule over us, seek to have FULL control over all energy, resources, food supplies, water and even the very air we breathe.

They eliminate all natural food sources, such as the slaughtering of the buffalo in America and then replace it with their cloned meats - cows, chickens and pigs.

One day, if we do nothing, we may be seeing oxygen bars - (like in Japan and Pakistan already) - all over the place and then domed cities (or underground) for the elite while the poor die a suffering agonizing death.

DEATH TO GM CROPS - BAN THEM ALL!




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Posted: Feb 10 2005, 11:53 PM
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The papers, leaked to the environment group ETC, also show that the Canadian government will attack an official UN report critical of the potential impact of "terminator" seeds on small farmers and indigenous peoples.

Makes me sad and angry that my country's the main force behind this sadoriginal.gif

If we really must genetically modify nature's creations, can't we at least stick to doing things that are intended to be beneficial? Because anyone who can look me in the eye and say that forcing poor farmers to use sterile crops is in any way a good thing must have endured a good, hard smack in the head.

What really kills me is that people don't starve to death because there isn't enough food in the world--they starve because they don't have enough money to have food distributed to them, while those of us that do throw it away without a second thought (and I know that I'm guilty of this too...)

But the real question that's burning in my mind is this: where do terminator crops end? If the fertility and/or lifespan of a crop can be programmed through genetic modification, then what's the next level that they'll be taking this too? Will farmers be forced to buy sterile, genetically modified versions of their own carefully bred livestock? What about humans? How long before these modifications reach us? Even if it doesn't reach us intentionally, how will consumption of these terminator crops affect us?

I know some of that may seem a little farfetched, but I can think of a good many things that seemed far out not that long ago, and are now quite common.




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Posted: Feb 11 2005, 01:30 AM
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Forced Human sterilization will be in our future if we do not change things and continue to allow these beings to rule over our lives.

I totally agree with you Nightshade, what IDIOT would think that sterile seeds are a good thing?

An idiot with millions of dollars?

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what IDIOT would think that sterile seeds are a good thing?

An idiot with millions of dollars?

Millions of dollars, and a cold, black heart, I believe.

That Mark Twain quote's one of my favorites smileNew4.gif




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Friday, February 11, 2005
http://www.etcgroup.org

Suicide Seeds - Bombshell in Bangkok Canadian-Led Coup to Allow Terminator Technology Narrowly Squelched at UN Meeting

Percy Schmeiser, a Canadian farmer who was sued by Monsanto, spoke today at a UN meeting in Bangkok - harshly criticizing his governments' efforts to promote field-testing and commercialization of Terminator seeds (plants genetically-modified to render seeds sterile at harvest time).

"The Canadian government has acted shamefully. It is supporting a dangerous, anti-farmer technology that aims to eliminate the rights of farmers to save and re-use harvested seed," said Schmeiser. "Instead of representing the good will of the Canadian people or attending to the best interests of the Biodiversity Treaty, the Canadian government is fronting for the multinational gene giants who stand to win enormous profits from the release of Terminator seeds around the world."

Schmeiser is the 74-year old Canadian farmer who was sued by Monsanto for patent infringement when the company's patented, genetically modified canola seed invaded his farm - unwanted and unwelcome. A victim of genetic pollution and a champion of Farmers' Rights, Schmeiser courageously fought Monsanto all the way to the Canadian Supreme Court.

A Canadian government proposal to unleash Terminator was leaked to the ETC Group on the first day of a UN meeting in Bangkok, February 7-11 (SBSTTA, the scientific advisory body to the Convention on Biological Diversity - CBD). The news stunned farmers' organizations, government delegations, and civil society worldwide.  Ottawa's instructions to the Canadian delegation in Bangkok called for an all-out push for field-testing and commercialisation of sterile seed technologies, effectively un-doing the precautionary, de facto moratorium on Terminator seeds adopted by governments in 1998. Even worse, the Canadian delegation was instructed to "block consensus" by governments attending the meeting if it didn't get its way. ETC Group has also learned that, in advance of the Bangkok meeting, Canadian embassies around the world asked governments to support a recommendation for "field testing and commercial use" of Terminator. Canada's blatant promotion of an anti-South technology does not bode well for the G8 meeting of world leaders in July in Scotland where Canada will propose to introduce nanotechnology on the G-8 agenda.

After being swamped this week by protest emails and letters, the Canadian government was forced to soften its public position on Terminator, but it continued to press a solidly pro-Terminator view in the corridors and in a committee appointed to negotiate draft text on Terminator.  (The drafting group on Terminator included representatives from Canada, the European Community, Peru, Tanzania, and the Philippines.) By Thursday morning Canada and its seed industry allies had drafted text that included language promoting Terminator field trials, capacity building for the use of Terminator in the developing world and specifically invited the research participation of "private sector entities."

"The draft text on Terminator released Thursday morning was appalling - it looked like it was written by the multinational seed industry," said Jim Thomas of ETC Group, speaking from Bangkok. "It strongly reflected the Canadian government's pro-Terminator position as revealed earlier this week in the leaked document."

Suicide Seed Squad: Canada hasn't been working alone in Bangkok. The UN meeting was crawling with representatives from the biotech industry and related trade groups - including Monsanto, Delta & Pine Land, Crop Life International, PHARMA (pharmaceutical manufacturers), the International Seed Federation and more - who lobbied against current restrictions on the development of suicide seeds. New Zealand and Australia also backed the position of industry and Canada, while a fleet of US government representatives observed from the sidelines. (The US government is not a Party to the Biodiversity Convention.)

Thankfully, disaster was averted due to key interventions by the governments of Norway, Sweden, Austria, the European Community, Cuba, Peru and Liberia, on behalf of the African Group.

The good news is that these governments managed to delete the most offensive wording. The final text and recommendations reaffirm earlier decisions, amounting to a continuing, but fragile, de facto moratorium on Terminator.  The issue now bounces to another CBD advisory body (the Working Group on 8(j)) in March 2006.

Interminable Terminator? The bad news is that decisions made in Bangkok will allow the issue of Terminator to be re-examined and re-studied interminably. In ETC Group's view, the CBD continues to dilly-dally and delay decisions on Terminator while the industry is moving full-speed ahead to bring sterile seeds to market.

"The international community needs to know that Terminator technology is a real and present danger. The biotech industry is chomping on the bit to commercialize suicide seeds.  Nothing short of an all-out ban on Terminator will stop it from being unleashed in farmer's fields," said Hope Shand of ETC Group.

For more information:

Pat Mooney, ETC Group (Canada) etc@etcgroup.org:
Hope Shand and Kathy Jo Wetter, ETC Group (USA) hope@etcgroup.org: 919 960-5223
Silvia Ribeiro, ETC Group (Mexico) silvia@etcgroup.org: 52 55 55 632 664
Jim Thomas, ETC Group (UK) jim@etcgroup.org: 44 (0)7752 106806 (mobile)


Note to Editors:

Terminator technology was first developed by the US Department of Agriculture and the multinational seed industry to prevent farmers from replanting saved seed. When it came to public light in 1998 massive public opposition forced Monsanto and Syngenta to disavow the technology.

SBSTTA is the Subsidiary Body on Scientific, Technical and Technological Advice, a body that advises the UN Convention on Biological Diversity. http://www.biodiv.org

The United Nations refers to Terminator seed technology as GURTs (genetic use restriction technology).
For more information on Percy Schmeiser's court case, see: http://www.percyschmeiser.com

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The Action Group on Erosion, Technology and Concentration, formerly RAFI, is an international civil society organization headquartered in Canada. The ETC group is dedicated to the advancement of cultural and ecological diversity and human rights. http://www.etcgroup.org.

The ETC group is also a member of the Community Biodiversity Development and Conservation Programme (CBDC).  The CBDC is a collaborative experimental initiative involving civil society organizations and public research institutions in 14 countries.  The CBDC is dedicated to the exploration of community-directed programmes to strengthen the conservation and enhancement of agricultural biodiversity.  The CBDC website is http://www.cbdcprogram.org

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See also:

ALERT: Biotech Industry Pushes to Release "Suicide" Gene in Plants
http://www.organicconsumers.org/un.htm
Learn more and sign the Organic Consumers Association's petition to the UN to terminate the Terminator Gene.

Canada Backs Terminator Seeds (09 February 2005)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/gmdebate/Story/0...1408821,00.html
An international moratorium on the use of one of the world's most controversial GM food technologies may be broken today if the Canadian government gets seed sterilisation backed at a UN meeting. (...) Jointly patented by the GM company Monsanto and the US government, the technology was condemned in the late 1990s by many African and Asian governments who called for a permanent ban. Monsanto and other GM companies which were developing similar technologies voluntarily pulled out of research after concerns were also raised about the "terminator" genes spreading to non-GM crops, and international outrage that poor farmers would not be able to use seeds from their crops, as they have always done.But leaked instructions to Canadian government negotiators at the Bangkok meeting of the Subsidiary Body on Scientific, Technical and Technological Advice, a group which advises the UN's Convention on Biological Diversity, show that Canada will request today that all countries open their doors to the technology. CLIP

Refusing GMO foods from U.S. is a crime against humanity? (10/2/2005)
http://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/globalnetn...2/msg00022.html
Tony Hall, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization, has repeated his call for African leaders who refuse the US's GM-contaminated food aid to be tried for "crimes against humanity". CLIP

Bad Seed (February 11, 2005)
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php/20050209202055239
(...) The Bush administration, as usual, has put the profits of multinational corporations ahead of the needs and rights of people. Order 81 not only prohibits the practice of saving patented seeds brought into the country, but allows the patenting of new varieties developed from existing seeds through scientific plant breeding or genetic modification. To achieve a patent on a new plant, that plant must meet stringent standards that farmers' seeds cannot meet, so only corporate-owned seed strains can be patented.
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Since it is almost impossible to prevent genetic pollution once a variety of seeds is released into the environment, it is likely that any crops grown in Iraq alongside genetically modified or scientifically bred and patented varieties will pick up part of patented genetic codes within a decade. This is even more probable given the record of illegal releases of such materials in places like India. Once a plant is found to have patented genetic material it belongs to the company that developed that particular material. If an Iraq farmer saves traditional seeds and his crops have been cross-pollinating with a neighbour's patented variety, then the seed-saving farmer no longer owns his crop or anything made from it. 
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According to Order 81, "The court may order the confiscation of the infringing variety as well as the materials and tools substantially used in the infringement of the protected variety. The court may also decide to destroy the infringing variety as well as the materials and tools or to dispose of them in any noncommercial purpose."  In other words a farmer who has done nothing but to follow traditional farming methods that go back to the very dawn of human civilisation can lose not only his crop and the bread made from it, but may also lose his tractor, plough, and storage facilities. That seems a rather unfair price for an Iraqi farmer to pay for George Bush's campaign contributions, but Paul Bremer's edicts rarely have the best interests of the Iraqi people in mind and the bio-tech companies need new markets. 
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In the end the Iraqi farmer will have two choices. To try to grow crops from seeds of existing crops that have become rare during decades of war and sanctions or to buy seeds from companies like Monsanto, Dow, Syngenta and Bayer. If they choose the first option they risk accidentally running afoul of a law imposed on them by the US government. If they choose the second option they risk poverty and future food shortages. Quite the choice to have to make.




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Glad you caught that.
Scary.
Look at Iraq where they imposed this terminator gene as the LAW.

Could it be so the depleted uranium affected genetics don't blow round the world?
or so the Iraqi's don't eat something even worse then GM plants?

PEI (a province in Canada where potatoes are the BIG thing) is fighting to make
terminator and GM seeds ILLEGAL).
Quite the hypocracy there, eh.

Oh yeah, it was recently shown that Monsanto's GM crops are less profitable, because for instance Round UP ready crops are ment to be used with a specific herbicide and pesticide and there are less expensive ones giving a better yield.



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Remember, for the Draco, genocide OR slavery are the only human options left.

Whatever you have to do to survive, pray to God for guidance and wisdom. Save seeds, filter your water, move as far away from the 1700 ft elevation (where cavern entrances permit the Draco to come and go at will), away from the shoreline cities, away from the flatland prairies (which will flood) as you can get.

Cooperate, join, establish, found, organize. If you try to go it ALONE they'll pick you off one-by-one, like cherries off the tree.


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This is so scary and sad. Why are these countries backing this, bouncefire.gif

Quickly now, everyone buy organic seeds, start asap if you have'nt already.

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Meanwhile, New Brunswick, an eastern province in Canada is trying to make GM crops ILLEGAL.
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Judges Order Disclosure Of Secret Study On GM Risks
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Judges have ordered the publication of a secret study which has raised fears that eating GM food may harm human health, after it was revealed in The Independent on Sunday last month.
 
A court in Cologne last week granted Greenpeace access to the 1,139-page study - by the giant biotech firm Monsanto - which found that rats fed a modified corn had smaller kidneys and raised levels of white blood cells and lymphocytes compared with those fed a non-GM corn.
 
The maize - code-named MON 863 - is expected to be approved for human consumption in Europe later this year. Professor Gilles-Eric Seralini of the University of Caen, who scrutinises the safety of GM products for the European Commission and French government, describes the findings as "very worrying".
 
Environmental groups in several European countries have been pressing for the report's publication for months. They intensified their campaign after The Independent on Sunday's disclosures, and the EC also called for the secrecy to be lifted.
 
Monsanto - which dismisses the differences between the rats as pure chance - supplied the study to safety authorities on condition it was kept confidential. It has consistently refused to make the study public, saying it "contains confidential business information which could be of commercial use to our competitors". Last week the dispute ended in a German court, where Greenpeace argued the study should be published under a European Union law, namely the public should have access to documents assessing GM risks.
 
The court agreed. Greenpeace hailed the victory as "an important success". Monsanto appealed. Tony Combes, UK director of corporate affairs, said: "Everyone who needs to see [the study] has seen it."
 
The company denies environmentalists' accusations that it is appealing to try to keep the study secret while European ministers decide next month whether to allow the corn to be sold for human consumption. If ministers cannot agree, the EC has made clear it will wave it through anyway, using a loophole in European law.
 
Dr Brian John, of GM-free Cymru, welcomed the court's decision and said it would be "irresponsible and cynical in the extreme" to pass the corn for human consumption.
 
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