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> What do ELF,EMF,GWEN, & cellfone towers look like?, Can u post a pic or describe?


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  Posted: Aug 8 2004, 06:34 PM
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Any one have a link that shows what each looks like?

I can only find sites that the triangular looking towers that are said to be cell phone towers.


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Posted: Aug 8 2004, 07:37 PM
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I posted this thread earlier today regarding cell phone towers.

http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2120

I have no images of Gwen, EMF or ELF towers... YET

The HAARP array of antennas in Alaska is very interesting.... wonder what the real intentions are?





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Posted: Aug 8 2004, 07:49 PM
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Yes, I read the thread...it is what peaked my interest. There are some weird looking rods in my parts..so weird my Mom and I were discussing them last week.

Do you know what kind of tower has a vertical rod and has what looks like a series of floating discs stacking up the rod?

Looks like 20-30 discs spaced every foot? A real bad graphic below...

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Posted: Aug 8 2004, 08:12 PM
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Do you know what kind of tower has a vertical rod and has what looks like a series of floating discs stacking up the rod?


No, but if I do, I'll be sure to share the knowledge.

Have you tried http://www.google.com and searched for GWEN, EMF or ELF towers?





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Posted: Aug 8 2004, 09:49 PM
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yes...only getting like 2 different sites that have the same photos. They show cell phone rods (triangular) only...but some sites call them ELF rods too. So. I am not sure what they are...some could be for the radar for the airport. (Shrug)

I notice a lot of towers near the video cameras used to tape the highways...but nearby I see towers with small dishes. So, I assumed the dishes were receiving the signals from the camera some kind of way.

Shrug. I used to know what a radio tower looked like...and the tv ones (now they are dishes)

But, there are so many types of towers that I see I am trying to figure out what they are used for. Hell, I have never seen the stealth types ( I guess I have to look harder)

The type in my graphic is suspected of causing many new cars to break down when cars pass it. It is very low to the ground sticking up between the road barriers from an underpass. New cars are always stranded at the same spot near this tower...the tow trucks take cars back to dealer...and miraculously the cars start up again.


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Posted: Aug 8 2004, 10:14 PM
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Quemonius, I'll do some research and see what I come up with.

Sometimes, certain people are literally blocked from finding specific sites.




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Posted: Aug 8 2004, 10:46 PM
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Ha! Finally I found one! This one only has one disc but it looks liked if they were stacked. It would be very close. I guess cell phone antennas are ELF
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Posted: Aug 8 2004, 11:18 PM
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Cool Quemonius, now I need to enable right clicking to allow saving of images.

My tech was supposed to do that, not sure how yet.




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Posted: Aug 8 2004, 11:32 PM
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My mom is convinced that these towers change the behaviors of the people in our area...the moon used to do that. I found this very interesting...My mom is very sensative and so am I...X's in many spots. Her more so than me...she lives very close to many antennas. I wonder if these rods can make computer sensors in cars go haywire...also speedometers. This is very interesting nonetheless.

Do you think you are targetted by psycho- electronic harassment?
June 19, 2003
Pyscho-electronic mind control is ONE TILE in a much larger mosaic of government crimes. ...Check out shortwave news for up to the minute news on the government crime front.
What this form may do for you

This form is being used by me, Eleanor White, eleanor@raven1.net, to find out if symptoms of neuro-electromagnetic weapons use are widespread among the general public. My group studying these questions has experienced all of the effects listed below for periods of a few years to two decades or more. We believe the tempation to use the classified technology on more and more people will expand our group beyond the roughly 1,600 members world-wide at present.

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Instructions:

Starting with the line "START OF FORM", click
and hold your left mouse button down and sweep
downwards until the "END OF FORM" line is high-
lighted. Release the mouse button, and the
highlighting should stay.

Hold the Ctrl key down and touch the C key.
(Then release the Ctrl key.)

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(Then release the Ctrl key.)

Type your three anonymous ID items into the
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Using an email address which will be kept
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[Code or real] name:

City name:

State/Prov:

Place an "X" ahead of any of the following symptoms
of the harassment typical of electronic mind weapon
targets (non-electronic harassment usually goes with
the electronic effects):

__ You find that all of your family, friendship,
and business relationships are going sour
and you have done nothing to cause this
__ You find that "accidental" blocking of you as
you walk or drive about, by strangers, has
increased dramatically and every day brings
several "blocking" incidents. E.g., someone
slips ahead of you at the bank machine or
grocery checkout, or with cars in unexpected
places in parking lots. This is part of
what targets call "street theater". THIS IS
ABOUT BLOCKING *FAR* MORE FREQUENT THAN THAT
WHICH OCCURS IN NORMAL LIFE, NOT THE USUAL
OCCASIONAL OCCURENCES.
__ Telephones frequently have static or tones or
echoes; you have lots of "wrong number" calls
__ Street lights going out as you pass under them,
walking or driving
__ Your watch and other batteries going dead often
far too soon to be "natural" deaths
__ You find that you are coming suddenly awake at
precisely the SAME TIME, middle of every night
__ Inescapable voice in your head and you are not
mentally ill
__ Ringing in ears - may start/stop when switching
on or off electronic devices
__ Fake telephone or clock ringing or fake kocking
on your door
__ Fake, loud bird calls, outdoors, which follow
you everywhere
__ Hot needles deep in your flesh, especially when
trying to sleep (also called "bee stings")
__ Limbs jerking wildly, especially when trying to
sleep
__ Extremely powerful itching which may start as
small electrical shocks
__ Very fast heartbeat while relaxed (not having
exercised recently)
__ Very high body heat, no fever, relaxed, cool
surroundings
__ Vibration, large area of your body, or, nearby
objects which should not vibrate normally
__ Forced awakening, can't go back to sleep, as if
on high doses of caffeine
__ Vivid 3-D images while awake, eyes open or
closed
__ Urges to go somewhere you don't need to or at
times you would not go there
__ Neighbors can see thru walls, possibly by sounds
from them which "follow" you
__ Repeated instances where it seems your mind is
being read
__ Repeated evidence of breakins, small scale thefts,
and sabotage both at home and at work
__ Sudden "drop-you-in-your-tracks" fatigue at
times you should not be tired

__ Have you ever seen the symbols pictured below?

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If "yes", please type a short description of where
and under what circumstances you have seen any of
the above symbols, and which ones. Thanks.

END OF FORM --------------------------------------


THANKS for completing this form. I hope the results will eventually help us all.

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This web site refers to a lot of pics( I have no clue what they do) but they show pics and calibration numbers for many antennas

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/gwen-haar...ontrol-grid.htm



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Posted: Aug 9 2004, 08:22 PM
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ELF and other types of towers are becomming more and more difficult to pick up now. Some of the newer ones arebeing concealed so they cannot be detected. They have the technology now to make them look like trees, flagpoles, church steeples and silos.

http://www.bariumblues.com/towers.htm

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As more people demand mobile communications, wireless companies are finding the need for camouflaging, concealing or "STEALTH-ing" antennas at their sites.

As a manufacturer in the telecommunications industry, STEALTH has designed many standard products and even custom applications.

We use our innovative StealthSkin™ V materials and design methods to balance several criteria: cost-effectiveness, structural integrity, RF transparency, and cosmetic appeal. The majority of STEALTH's designs employ three major material components: Steel, FRP (fiberglass), and our exclusive StealthSkin™ V panels.

http://www.stealthsite.com/products.html

These sites have a lot of information on cell phone towers and related illnesses.

http://www.buergerwelle.de/english_start.html

Mind Control through your mobile network - ELF Towers

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2002/12/48579.html



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Posted: Aug 9 2004, 09:03 PM
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Hi Quemonius, that survey is alarming yet very revealing.

After my "mind control/religious Experience of 2002(you can read about it in Paranormal section of this forum) I created my current website.

http://pupp.mentalstimulation.com/

http://pupp.mentalstimulation.com/mindcontrol.htm

I wanted to find out what was being done to me.

I honestly think THEY tried to drive me insane. Heck, I'm already OUT THERE.

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Before the real freaky stuff occurred this happened and I havn't worn a watch since.

That was one of the FIRST SIGNS!

__ Your watch and other batteries going dead often
far too soon to be "natural" deaths


[And my brand new watch batteries bought from Sav Ons lasted less than a day. The manager there got really rude with me when I complained they were selling me dead batteries.]



__ Vibration, large area of your body, or, nearby
objects which should not vibrate normally


[Goosebumps all over my body and yes, I vibrated too. Felt like I was getting electrical charges.]

[The management here at this jewish owned and managed (formerly low income) slum apts had recently installed NEW smoke detectors too.]


__ Forced awakening, can't go back to sleep, as if
on high doses of caffeine


[Sleep disrupted, lay awake in bed all night long and horrible nightmares when I did sleep.]


__ Urges to go somewhere you don't need to or at
times you would not go there


[I took a 20 mile walk to my grade school from 30 years ago to make an online report of conditions there considering Calif Lotto had given over 14 billion to the schools and did this with my bad back - I walked further than all my life that day.]


__ Neighbors can see thru walls, possibly by sounds
from them which "follow"


[I swear I was being watched here (yes, I'm paranoid - LOL) and the phone calls were all from my former jewish friends who monitored me and when I'd tell them of the voices, they acted like no biggie. Same as my gf, all acted as if it was normal.]


__ Inescapable voice in your head and you are not
mentally ill


[voice telling me I'm the king of kings, the uncrowned king and to read the bible, specifically the words in RED.]

Ace told me he experienced that as well which is why we became close.


I came to the conclusion that there really is a mass mind control program in effect.


Seralia, thank you for the additional information.

I really think this stuff is for real. I did NOT imagine those things.




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Posted: Aug 9 2004, 09:51 PM
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Here's something from my Mind Control webpage.
http://www.mentalstimulation.com/pupp/mindcontrol.htm

Dr. Jose Delgado
Director of Neuropsychiatry, Yale University Medical School
Congressional Record No. 26, Vol. 118, February 24, 1974

Dr. Jose Delgado was an MKULTRA experimenter who demonstrated a radio- controlled bull on CNN in 1985


[He actually stopped a bull in its tracks via an electronic implant. ~PuPP]

"We need a program of psychosurgery and political control of our
society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who
deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated.

"The individual may think that the most important reality is his own
existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks
historical perspective.

"Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of
liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the
brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electrical
stimulation of the brain."


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Posted: Nov 24 2006, 08:11 AM
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I totally forgot about these threads from long ago.

Mind control by towers..duh.

Now, do these towers jamm cell phones?

I need to find a site that has wav files of frequency oscillations so I can figure out what I heard last night.

The sound is imprinted in my mind and my eardrum is still sensitive so I know if I hear it again...I'll know if it's a match.


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Yeah, me too!

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A "PINE TREE" THAT SUPPORTS 6 CELL PHONE CARRIERS
EACH RING ON THE TREE, IS A CARRIER ANTENNA CLUSTER

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ANOTHER "PINE TREE"
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CELL PHONE EQUIPMENT HIDDEN IN FAKE "BOULDER"
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SAME "BOULDER" OPENED UP
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GRAIN SILO
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35' TALL SAQUARO CACTUS ANTENNA
Located in Southern CA.
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WATER TOWER ANTENNA
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Dangerous Radiation From Hidden Cell Phone Towers,
By Ted Twietmeyer
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Long Essay and Images
-> HEALTH and NUTRITION
http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2120




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