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ET council: We will increase UFOs, address U.N. in 2014, renew ecology in 2015

October 23rd, 2010 10:20 pm PT.

In an exclusive, in-depth interview on Exopolitics Radio with Alfred Lambremont Webre, former NORAD officer Stanley A. Fulham has stated that a regional galactic governance authority, (the ‘Council of 8’) made a dramatic decision in January, 2010 to put aside the law of non-intervention.

At a solemn meeting, the Council of 8 decided to intervene with their technology to clean Earth’s atmosphere before an environmental collapse occurs on Earth, as has happened on many other inhabited planets with civilizations similar to our own.

The Council of 8 did so, according to Mr. Fulham’s information, after reaching a conclusion that that our human technology could not now prevent an environmental collapse and species extinction on Earth from occuring.

According to Mr. Fulham, this is a rare decision by the Council of 8, and is partly a result of Council members wishing to preserve the unique positive qualities of our human population.

The Council of 8, according to Mr. Fulham’s information, consists of the intelligent civilizations of the Pleiades, Orion, Sirius, Bootes, Alpha Centauri, Comsuli, Zeta Reticuli, and Pouseti.

This cleanup of the Earth’s atmosphere will, according to Mr. Fulham’s information, commence in 2015 after a 2014 speech at the United Nations by the Council of 8’s Pleiadian representatives.

The Council of 8’s appearance in 2014 at the United Nation’s General Assembly may occur, according to Mr. Fulham’s information, following a collapse of the present world order and the emergence of a new way of living during the period 2010 – 2014.

This transitional 2010-14 period may be accompanied by possible earth changes, monetary collapse, and governmental and nation state collapse.

Mr. Fulham stated in his Exopolitics Radio interview that the regional galactic governance council (‘Council of 8’) had chosen New York City for an initial Oct 13, 2010 UFO 'decloaking' because it was a global, cosmopolitan city with a blasé population that would not be frightened of their appearance.

There are multiple, independent evidentiary sources that prove the Oct. 13, 2010 UFO sightings over New York City were the result of an intervention by a non-Earthly intelligent civilization, and not the result of other causes such as released balloons.

The original plan of the Council of 8, taken at a meeting in January 2010, had been for simultaneous UFO appearances on Oct 13, 2010 over major world cities.

The purpose of these Council of 8 UFO appearances, which are set to increase in the future, is to acclimatize Earth humans to the Council of 8's presence and decision to intervene.

The increased UFO sightings in the future are meant to lead up to a world speech by the Pleiadian representatives of the Council of 8 in the General Assembly hall at the United Nations in 2014. readers can listen to this in-depth historic interview with Stanley A. Fulham in the article below.

The Council of 8

According to Mr. Fulham, the Council of 8 has had a caretaker role for our planet for about the last million years, and has effectively maintained Earth under protective quarantine following an attempted invasion and takeover of Earth.

Mr. Fulham has authored a book, Challenges of Change, containing the results of his 10 years investigation of the role of the Council of 8 and other entities in our galaxy and Universes.

Mr. Fulham writes that he obtained this information about the Council of 8 through an inter-dimensional intelligent civilization that monitors events in our galaxy and Universes.

Other experts such as Dr. Carl Johan Calleman have independently predicted in interviews with Alfred Lambremont Webre an end to hierarchies and the value of money, and increased extraterrestrial and UFO contact in the 2010-14 period.

On Oct. 14, 2010 - a day after the New York City UFO sightings - Dr. Mazian Othman, director of the U.N. Outer Space Office, delivered a wide-ranging 28 minute video press conference at the United Nations in New York during which she stated that 'ET life is a possibility' and remarked that the United Nations must ready itself for ET contact.

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Will the recent spike in UFO sightings help Denver's 'UFO Initiative' pass?

October 23rd, 2010 4:50 pm ET.

The recent rash of UFO sightings, globally, not just in the U.S., has not just caused interest in the subject to rise, but has focused some national attention on an otherwise local political initiative: Initiative 300, in Denver, CO.

If passed, Initiative 300 would create a Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission, with seven members who would meet twice a year, gather the most "compelling evidence" regarding the existence of extraterrestrials and UFOs and post it on the Denver's website. It sounds, of sorts, like a real-life X-Files, though one without the resources of the FBI.

Initiative 300 is backed by Jeff Peckman. Although Peckman can't say that any of the recent UFO sightings have been legitimate, he does feel that they might help get his idea passed. Here's how the initiative appears on the ballot:

“City and County of Denver Ballot Question Initiated ordinance 300: shall the voters for the city and county of Denver adopt an initiated ordinance to require the creation of an extraterrestrial affairs commission to help ensure the health, safety, and cultural awareness of Denver residents and visitors in relation to potential encounters or interactions with extraterrestrial intelligent beings or their vehicles, and fund such commission from grants, gifts and donations?”

According to the Initiative's website, and based on the portion of the text about "grants, gifts, and donations," the Commission will cost the city no budget dollars. Reportedly, Denver’s City Council can repeal the ETA Commission ordinance after six months, as well.

The website, in its banner headline, lists the follow "reasons" for passing Initiative 300.

•Elvis Presley had more UFO sightings and meetings with ETs than any other celebrity.
•Muhammad Ali saw at least twenty-two UFOs and was fascinated by them.
•Michael Jackson wanted to welcome extraterrestrials to Earth and film the landing.
•Jimmy Carter saw a UFO and promised to disclose government UFO files if elected president.
•Hillary Clinton helped draft a comprehensive disclosure policy on UFOs and ETs.
•Ronald Reagan followed a UFO by plane for several minutes but was afraid to report it.
Reportedly, a recent poll showed 90 percent of voter opposed to the measure, but it is unclear if that poll was taken before, or after, the recent spike in UFO sightings.

One has to wonder, really, if researching UFOs is such a great idea. After all, none other than acclaimed scientist Stephen Hawking said, "If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans."

That's the stuff of history. The stuff of science fiction would point to Independence Day, War of the Worlds, V, and the upcoming Skyline, and warn us: uh, uh, let's let sleeping dogs lie.

Initiative 300 is up for a vote on Nov. 2nd.

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Skeptics bungle attack on Initiative 300 ET Affairs Commission

October 24th, 2010 4:54 pm MT.

A group that calls themselves the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry has blown it -- BIG TIME! On October 20, they posted an article by one of their highly credentialed top skeptical writers that was a hugely bungled attempt at undermining Initiative 300 in Denver. Below is a response to the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry's article:

"A Close Encounter with Jeff Peckman
The Naked Skeptic
Karen Stollznow
October 20, 2010
When the Paranormal Becomes Political"

A Too Close (for CSI) Encounter with Karen Stollznow
When the "Paranoidal" Becomes "Septical"
By Jeff Peckman

Sometime during the last two years, I heard a self-proclaimed "skeptic" on a public access TV channel attempt to discredit everything he could lump into the category of "New Age". He said something to the effect that, "If you pronounce 'New Age' to make it sound like "sewage" then…well, you get the idea." But you do not have to mispronounce the word "skeptic" to make it sound like "septic".

Ms. Stollznow's mindless rant to discredit Initiative 300 is full of absurd and false claims and insinuations. Her "doctorate in linguistics and a background in history and anthropology" apparently never included a class in ethics, honesty, scientific methodology, or even basic fact-checking. Perhaps that is how she landed the position of "managing editor of CSI’s Scientific Review of Mental Health Practice." Her incompetence in research and writing gives reason to question if she obtained her doctoral degree in a legitimate way.

Here's some of her quotes (in Italics) from her article.  My responses in brackets:

"If the conspiracy theorists are to be believed, the United States government has been suppressing proof of the existence of UFOs and aliens for many decades. However, one city is currently taking a known conspiracy theorist too seriously."

[The hundreds of government whistle-blowers who have described that the "United States government has been suppressing proof of the existence of UFOs and aliens for many decades", are not conspiracy theorists. They are conspiracy 'participants' who were, in many cases, coerced into complying with the cover-up through threats and intimidation. Their eye-witness testimony would be allowed in a court of law. Declassified government documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act confirm this government cover-up described by these eye-witness whistle-blowers. These damning documents would also be allowed as evidence in court. Ms. Stollznow has presented nothing in her article that would be allowed in a court of law.]

"Instigated by Jeff Peckman, the campaign proposes to establish an Extraterrestrial Affairs (ETA) Commission to investigate alleged government cover-ups of alien abductions and encounters and to explore extraterrestrial energy sources and cancer-curing technology. Known as Initiative 300, this proposal will go before voters at an election on November 2, 2010."

[The proposed Extraterrestrial Affairs (ETA) Commission has the duty to "To display in the most cost-effective manner on the City of Denver web site, and otherwise, the most credible evidence and witness testimony regarding the existence and activities of extraterrestrial intelligent beings on earth;" Initiative 300 says nothing about requiring the ETA Commission to investigate "alleged government cover-ups of alien abductions and encounters and to explore extraterrestrial energy sources and cancer-curing technology". However, those might be a result of the ETA Commission's activities as the general public
becomes aware of the government cover-up and known suppressed technologies.]

"…while Peckman’s scheme plans to "prove" the existence of spaceships and little green men—and take them to our leader."

[Re: "Little green men" – is just another racist slur typical of people sitting in dark corners in their fashionable dunce caps.]

"The campaigners claim that there have been 4,000 UFO landings on Earth, and that aliens are among us already; apparently there are some fifty-seven species of extraterrestrials. Taking their "evidence" from the Disclosure Project3, they further claim that "over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses have testified to their direct, personal, first-hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret."

[Yes, these facts are from eyewitnesses with strong credentials. What point is Stollznow trying to make?]

"Romanek claims he filmed an alien visitor, but he didn't release this incredible footage until 2008. He maintains that NASA cannot explain his film. NASA may not be able to explain the film, but the Rocky Mountain Paranormal Research Society (RMPRS) can. Suspecting a hoax, this local skeptical group didn't need five years to produce footage; they recreated the film in five hours with a camera and an alien prop.5"

[Romanek's video took 3 minutes to record an actual incident. The RMPRS took 5 hours and still created such a pathetically poor imitation that they were raked over the coals on the Internet and chastised for deceptively claiming it was the real video. After seeing several waves of global unsolicited publicity on the Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission and Stan Romanek's evidence, RMPRS decided to jump into the spotlight with a hoax to get publicity for themselves. Their hope was to get in a "ghost hunter" type of reality TV show called "Colorado X: Case Files of the Paranormal". Their hoax campaign against Stan Romanek
and Initiative 300 is like the hoax perpetrated by the infamous "Balloon boy dad".]

"Romanek and Peckman report they have subsequently received messages from aliens and have captured photographs and footage of aliens and UFOs."

[Stollznow is WRONG. I have never claimed to have received messages from aliens or to have captured photographs and footage of aliens and UFOs.]

"…in 2003 he [Peckman] attempted to start the "Safety through Peace" Ballot. The failed initiative aimed to reduce crime in Denver by reducing stress, forcing residents to "Have a nice day" by piping New Age music through public transportation and offering meditation and yoga classes for residents.8"

[FALSE – the "Safety through Peace" Initiative would not have forced or required residents to do any of the things she stated. But the crime reducing strategy it promoted has been successful throughout the world and confirmed as effective by of some of the most sophisticated published, peer-reviewed sociological research in history. It so happens that in 2004, immediately following the "Safety through Peace" ballot initiative in 2003:
a. An AOL online survey showed that Denver workers had the highest rate of unhappiness among 22 major U.S. cities
b. A survey by Men's Health magazine released in the summer of 2004 designated Denver as the most drunken major city in the U.S.
c. The murder rate in Denver skyrocketed to 69% above the 2003 level during the first 6 months of 2004.
Excessive stress is a known factor in all these negative social indicators.]

"This latest proposal received the 4,000 signatures required to appear on the ballot, but an additional 6,000 signatures were invalidated due to claims that these signatures were falsified."

[Stollznow's statement "but an additional 6,000 signatures were invalidated due to claims that these signatures were falsified", is BLATANTLY FALSE. There were no claims made to the Denver Elections Office suggesting that any signatures for the Initiative 300 petition were falsified. Any Denver voter had 25 days to make such claims and none were made. There was no suggestion to me by the Denver Election Division that they thought any signatures were falsified. There were no claims of this by the news media either. As a rule of thumb, ballot initiative petitioners try to get at least twice as many signatures as required because many will get rejected for a variety of reasons. These include insufficient or illegible information regarding: signature date, address that matches voter records, missing signature, etc. The Denver Fire Fighters attempt at collecting signatures for a charter amendment during the same time had an even a lower validity rate than the Initiative 300 petition.]

"Peckman ambiguously claims that the commission is to "ensure the health, safety and cultural awareness of Denver residents." While this statement it ludicrous, there is concern that the petition may appeal to conspiracy theorists and exploit the fears of the public seeking a cure for cancer."

[The claim of a suppressed extraterrestrial cure for cancer was made by whistle-blower, Don Phillips, formerly with the U.S. Air Force and Lockheed Skunkworks. Since the time of its existence, at least 7.5 million people in America alone have died of cancer, more than the number of Jews murdered by the Nazi’s in World War II and equal annually in America to almost the entire population if Denver.]

"A recent poll has shown that 92 percent of voters are opposed to establishing a Denver commission for extraterrestrial affairs.9"

[This statement is GROSSLY MISLEADING. The poll being referenced was taken as a survey by a city councilwoman only in 1 of 11 city council districts. It does not reflect the opinion of voters throughout Denver. It was done by the only Republican on the Denver City Council in a district with a high percentage of Republicans, and in a city where Democrats outnumber Republicans at least 2 to 1 otherwise. And the Denver Democratic Party is neutral on Initiative 300.]

"The RMPRS has monitored Peckman’s projects for years. Members Bryan Bonner and Matthew Baxter formed the Mission for Inhibiting Bureaucracy (MIB), a registered political committee against Peckman's ETA Commission.10 As official opponents, the MIB command equal media time to challenge Peckman's claims with critical thinking. Unfortunately, too many TV and radio shows want only Peckman's sensational side of the silly story."

[Re: "The RMPRS has monitored Peckman’s projects for years."  The RMPRS showed up in opposition only after the Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission got three rounds of global publicity. There is no evidence that they had any awareness or questions about any of my other projects prior to that. There is also no evidence that they have ever publicly taken any position on any ballot initiative, the creation of any city commission, or the expenditures in the Denver city budget before. Bonner did not even register to vote in Denver until three weeks after the Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission petition was determined to have sufficient valid signatures and was headed for the ballot.]

[Re: media time for MIB - The only reason Baxter and Bonner put their selves opposite Initiative 300 was because they thought that every time news reporters covered Initiative 300, they would run to Baxter and Bonner for a comment too. Baxter actually approached me after a meeting at the Denver City and County building, and proposed that we collaborate to build up a battle between them and the ETA Commission ballot initiative campaign. He said that would attract media attention. I told him "no thanks". Now they are whining because their hoax is not working.]

The RMPRS has already exposed some damning facts. Billy Meier, one of Peckman's cohorts, claims that he time traveled with alien guides and took photographs of what he saw."

[I have never been in contact with Billy Meier and have not subscribed to, or commented in any way on, his alleged claims of time travel. I have no association with Billy Meier. RMPRS members are attacking claims of someone in a foreign country that have nothing to do with Initiative 300 in Denver. Like Bonner and Baxter at the RMPRS, Ms.  Stollznow is obsessively and desperately grabbing at any remote piece of information she can hurl at Initiative 300 because she does not have any legitimate arguments against it.]

"The sobering news is that as a non-partisan measure on the ballot, Peckman's proposal will cost the city $100,000. If successful, The Denver Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission will cost tens of thousands of dollars every year. But the real cost is inestimable, and it will affect the education and reputation of the people of Denver."

[Re: "The sobering news is that as a non-partisan measure on the ballot, Peckman's proposal will cost the city $100,000." This statement is BLATANTLY FALSE!
Ms. Stollznow’s article was posted October 20, 2010 on the CSI web site. In early June, 2010, The Denver City Clerk moved Initiative 300 from the August primary to the November General election where it would not add extra election costs as the only citywide item on the ballot.]

[Re: "The Denver Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission will cost tens of thousands of dollars every year." Stollznow has no legitimate proof of this claim. The Denver Budge Director did mistakenly estimate potential reimbursable costs of$22,800. But 90% of those costs do not apply to Initiative 300. These corrections to the Budget Director's mistaken estimates are explained here. She also has no evidence or competence to make the claim "But the real cost is inestimable, and it will affect the education and reputation of the people of Denver."]

"Hopefully, Initiative 300 will be nothing more than a close encounter with stupidity."

[What kind of writer with Stollzman's alleged academic credentials would make so many mistakes, blatantly false statements, and avoid checking such basics facts? The only close encounter with stupidity is for the people who read Ms. Stollznow’s bungled attempt to undermine Initiative 300.]

[Excerpt about Stollznow: …Karen Stollznow is an author and skeptical investigator with a doctorate in linguistics and a background in history and anthropology. managing editor of CSI’s Scientific Review of Mental Health Practice.]

[NOTE: For an accurate source of information about the  Extraterrestrial Affairs Commission, visit the Initiative 300 voter education page. There you can read the 8-page voter education newspaper and the impartial summary of the Denver League of Women Voters. Two of them called the 8-page newspaper a "collectors item".] .

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Mystery behind initial report of UN Liaison for Extraterrestrial First Contact

September 29, 2010
Michael E. Salla, Ph.D.

On Sept 26, I reported on a breaking story that at an upcoming Royal Society conference, the head of the United Nations Office of Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA), Dr Mazlan Othman, was to reveal how the UN was preparing to appoint her to be the First Contact liaison with extraterrestrial life. The story was first reported by Jonathan Leake, the Science Editor for The Sunday Times, and was picked up my multiple international mainstream media sources including the Sunday Telegraph and The Australian. The Guardian newspaper was eventually able to get in touch by email with Othman to confirm Leake’s story and she replied: “It sounds really cool but I have to deny it.” In addition to Othman’s email, when business opened on Monday, Fox News was able to get in touch with Jamshid Gaziyev, a UN spokesperson who described the story as “nonsense.” The question that remains to be answered is why did the Science Editor of a major British newspaper write about the UN appointing a First Contact liaison with extraterrestrials if there was no substance to it?

First let’s begin with what Leake wrote in his September 26 story, “If Mars attacks, she’s our leader“:

… the UN is set to select an obscure Malaysian astrophysicist who is head of its little-known Office for Outer Space Affairs (Unoosa). Mazlan Othman will describe her potential new role next week at a scientific conference at the Royal Society’s Kavli conference centre in Buckinghamshire.

The conference Leake is referring to is titled: “Towards a scientific and societal agenda on extra-terrestrial life” scheduled to take place on October 4-5. The conference webpage says: “With a mix of invited talks and panel debates, we particularly look into the detection of life, the communication with potential extra-terrestrial civilizations, the implications for the future of humanity, and the political processes that are required.” This is what Leake went on to say about what Othman was set to announce at the conference:

She will tell delegates that the recent discovery of hundreds of planets around other stars has made the detection of extraterrestrial life more likely than ever before – and that means the UN must be ready to co-ordinate humanity’s response to any “first contact”.

What was the basis for Leake’s comments about Othman’s upcoming talk? This is what he wrote:

The Sunday Times has obtained a recording of a talk Othman gave recently to fellow scientists in which she said: “The continued search for extraterrestrial communication, by several entities, sustains the hope that some day humankind will receive signals from extraterrestrials. When we do, we should have in place a coordinated response that takes into account all the sensitivities related to the subject. The UN is a ready-made mechanism for such co-ordination.”
From the recorded talk, it’s safe to conclude that Othman believes that the UN ought to “have in place a coordinated response” to the discovery of extraterrestrial life. Leake goes on to write:

As director of Unoosa, she has developed policies on issues raised by advances in space technology, such as how humanity should respond to the discovery of asteroids and comets found to be on a collision course with Earth. The same thinking lies behind her proposals for dealing with the discovery of alien life.

So what proposals is Leake referring to here? He doesn’t explain what these are and how he learned of them, but he nevertheless elaborates on what the UN is planning.

Her plans to make her department the co-ordinating body for dealing with alien encounters will be debated by UN scientific advisory committees and should eventually reach the body’s general assembly.

In contrast, according to Gaziyev, the UN spokesperson, Othman’s forthcoming conference presentation would: “discuss the problems posed by “space debris mitigation, near-Earth objects (asteroids) and the coordination mechanism for the use of space technology in the United Nations system.” That’s surprising given the theme of the conference and the panel Othman was set to appear on: “Extra-terrestrial life and arising political issues for the UN agenda.” It is sensible given the alleged recorded talk by Othman that Leake said the Sunday Times has and he cited, that Othman is at the very least interested in the UN having “in place a coordinated response” to the discovery of extraterrestrial life. Is the UN playing damage control on what Othman was likely to discuss at a Royal Society conference addressing exo-political issues confronting the UN with the inevitable discovery of extraterrestrial life?

Of course, we know now that a UN spokesperson dismissed the First Contact ET liaison story as nonsense, as did Othman. So the question is why did Leake publish a story that both Mazlan Othman and the UN would quickly repudiate? Why did he write about Othman’s “proposals for dealing with the discovery of alien life” and her “plans to make her department the co-ordinating body for dealing with alien encounters.” Did he infer, fabricate or was he tipped off concerning these “proposals” and “plans”? Was he acting alone or was he acting on behalf of others in preempting or sabotaging what Othman was planning to say at the upcoming Royal Society conference? There is a lot of mystery behind Leake’s initial report given his very responsible position as the Science Editor for a major UK newspaper.

Whatever the answer to the above questions and unsolved mystery behind Leake’s initial report, one thing is clear, leading scientists from around the world will travel next week to the Royal Society to discuss the political and social consequences of the discovery of extraterrestrial life. Most importantly, Othman will be there to provide insight into the role of the UN in coordinating international responses to the issues being discussed. Perhaps she’ll focus on space rocks hitting the Earth as the UN spokesperson said. Or perhaps she’ll open up and discuss the UN having “in place a coordinated response” to the discovery of extraterrestrial life as Leake suggested. We’ll find out shortly. While the conference is now filled,, I’ve been informed by organizers that sessions will be digitally recorded for audio and video release through the Royal Society website.
UN official denies she has role representing Earth
By GREGORY KATZ (AP) – Oct 5, 2010

LONDON — Yes, she heads the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs. No, she has not been appointed to represent the Earth in future negotiations with aliens.

That's the word from Mazlan Othman, who Tuesday debunked British press reports indicating she would be Earth's ambassador to beings from outer space if they land in "Take me to your leader" mode.

Still, it's apparent she kind of likes the idea.

"I think it's cool, but no, I am not about to be appointed the ambassador to aliens," Othman said Tuesday before speaking at a Royal Society conference dealing with extraterrestrial life.

The issue of Othman's possible role as a point person for aliens was raised nine days ago by the Sunday Times in London, which reported that the U.N. was poised to give Othman the position.

The Office for Outer Space Affairs, based in Vienna, quickly released a statement calling the story "nonsense."

Othman, a Malaysian astrophysicist, said Tuesday it would make sense for the United Nations and its member states to study the important question of who should represent humanity if aliens do come to this planet. She said she does not know who should be in charge but thinks a protocol should be put in place.

"All I have been saying is that there are many forums for such discussions and the U.N. is, of course, one of those forums that can be used," she said. "I am not saying that the U.N. must be used."

UFO expert Nick Pope, who advised Britain's Ministry of Defense on extraterrestrial life, said it would be logical to make contingency plans because life beyond the planet Earth could be discovered at any time.

"We need to start thinking about the question of who speaks for Planet Earth," he said. "That is precisely what the Royal Society has been discussing for the last two days. There is quite a lot of controversy about it."

He said there is no clear legal procedure in place, and obviously no precedent, which could lead to chaos if contact is made. "My view is that it will be events-led," he said.

U.N. officials said Tuesday they could not answer "hypothetical" questions about what would happen if aliens sought a contact person on Earth.

The U.N. Office for Outer Space Affairs is charged with promoting international cooperation in the peaceful use of outer space and maintains the U.N.'s detailed register of satellite launches. It also helps formulate laws and principles governing the use of outer space.

The office does not have a formal role in making contingency plans in case of alien contact.

Othman said plans are not important if astronomers are able to use sophisticated equipment to find life on another planet, but could become vital if aliens come to Earth.

Associated Press Writer Tobie Mathew in London contributed to this report
UN alien-readiness plan a myth
October 14, 2010 - 6:48am

Andrew Douglas, Opinion Writer

We all know that when the aliens arrive, they will have their hands full with trying to eat Sigourney Weaver, riding in the front basket of flying bicycles, and the like. But late last month, The Telegraph reported that the United Nations would appoint Mazlan Othman, an astrophysicist from Malaysia, to be the official Space Ambassador in the event that Earthlings make contact with extraterrestrials.

It should be noted that the UN never really had any intention of appointing Othman or expanding its space agency, but media speculation spread the false story worldwide. It seems plausible that if anyone were to take the position, it would be Othman, since she is the director of the Malaysian national planetarium, and heads the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA), an organization that incidentally has nothing to do with extraterrestrials. But what’s stunning is that we easily believed that the UN would do something this pointless.

Perhaps the media figured that the UN had finally caught the space exploration bug that’s had a stranglehold on humanity’s imagination since the turn of the last century. It’s a fascination manifested in the launch of Sputnik, the moon landing, the International Space Station, and the proposed explorations of more distant planets. It pervades our popular culture from Gene Roddenberry and George Lucas to James Cameron. It also gives nerds like me a way to bond that doesn’t involve hobbits and not being able to get dates.

Certainly, space is captivating, and has some important things to teach us. But many people fail to realize that the Earth has a lot of scientific knowledge that has yet to be discovered and places that have yet to be explored. For example, the deepest points in the oceans of the world have never been seen, and many of the remaining Mayan ruins remain buried in the jungles of Central America. Sure, all the really fun locales like the highest mountain and the north and south poles have already been reached, but there’s still some cool stuff to be found.

This fascination with space underlies the media speculation about Othman’s supposed promotion, and certainly factors into our willingness to believe that the UN would place “make sure the aliens get a welcome basket” as priority number one on the international to-do list. Obviously, the United Nations should be concerned with preventing wars, genocides, the proliferation of nuclear weapons, and bringing an end to world hunger and poverty. However, the UN frequently becomes entrenched in bureaucracy, or retroactively passes resolutions with no clout — the idea that they’d create a useless “in case of alien invasion” position doesn’t seem that
out of character.

And to be fair, the UN could provide an already laid-out framework for figuring out what to do in the event that we make contact with aliens — but really, how likely is it that the response will be all that co-ordinated? Considering the fact that we can’t agree on even the smallest issues in the international community, the probability that we will all present a cohesive stance if aliens show up seems very low.

This doesn’t even take into account the fact that aliens may or may not exist. Certainly the discovery of Gliese 581 or “The Goldilocks Planet,” which falls inside the zone of a star that could sustain life, adds to the theory that there may be a planet out there that is able to support a life form. As well, the increased number of “UFO sightings” fuels the fires of the trailer park-inhabiting Roswell conspiracy theorists, who believe extraterrestrial contact has already occurred. However, it’s still not likely we’re going to be seeing any alien contact within the next 20 years. That doesn’t change the fact that when newspapers around the world picked up this story, many people — myself included — were willing to believe that the United Nations had placed someone in charge of something incredibly unlikely.

However, if this whole aliens thing does pan out at some point in the future, I totally call ambassador to Romulus. But if, to my chagrin, aliens don’t turn up within my lifetime, I’ll have to be content with good ole Earth. The UN definitely has a role to play as expansion into space continues — UNSOOA’s mandate is to promote “international cooperation in the peaceful uses of outer space.” But with so many problems facing us on this planet, it seems hard to justify anything that doesn’t attempt to solve the pressing issues at hand. It seems that maybe we should make sure that there is intelligent life on this planet first before we start delegating people to be in charge of it elsewhere in the universe.
We’re all that an alien species would want

Who needs the Security Council? There’s a much bigger job for Canada out there.

by Scott Feschuk on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:00pm

The Security Council defeat was tough for Canada, but it overshadowed a more shocking international snub. Earlier this month, it was reported that the United Nations had appointed a diplomat from Malaysia—and not a Canadian—to serve as global ambassador to space aliens.

The news, reported in Britain by the Sunday Times, came as a real blow to Stephen Harper. Our Prime Minister had gone so far as to appoint John Baird to his cabinet—what more could he possibly have done to showcase his willingness to work with unusual life forms?

As it turns out, the Times made a mistake: the Malaysian official has in fact been put in charge of protecting us from incoming asteroids. Naturally, the UN hasn’t actually named anyone to serve in so silly a role as global liaison to E.T.

Which means the job is still up for grabs! I shall depart immediately to make Canada’s case to the General Assembly . . .

Diplomats of Earth:

Let me begin by saying: we’re not bitter. Our Prime Minister has informed us we didn’t get on the Security Council because of Michael Ignatieff, American chicanery, Arab payback, bad luck, bad karma, low biorhythms and Belgium’s dog eating our application form. We’re sure your Council will benefit greatly from Portugal’s long history of international indifference and fiscal spazitude.

I’m here today to ask you an unrelated question: when you think of countries known for warmly greeting any and all newcomers who aren’t Tamils on boats or George Galloway, whom do you think of?

Canada has everything an arriving species could want: oodles of natural resources, ample spaceship parking and a probe-ready population accustomed to taking it in the rear from their political overlords. It only makes sense that a Canadian should be named your first ambassador to extraterrestrials.

Let me assure you—we are not naive about the challenges of such a role. We grasp that our emissaries may well be subjected to the occasional diplomatic faux pas, such as being fatally devoured. But we’re strong enough as a nation to endure the minute of silence in memory of Peter MacKay.

We know there will be frustrations. A human trying to communicate with an alien will be like a lion trying to talk to a fish or a Tea Party candidate trying to do math. But our Prime Minister will support our efforts by bringing to the job an affinity for cross-cultural diplomacy and a homemade light sabre crafted from taped-together toilet paper tubes. You know, just in case things get hairy.

Rest assured, we in Canada are fully aware of all alien attributes. From watching Alien Nation, we know the male “vulnerable” spot is located not between the legs but along the sides of the torso. From Independence Day, we know visitors to our planet are invulnerable to nuclear weapons and terrible dialogue. From the last Indiana Jones instalment, we know the endings of movies involving aliens don’t have to make any sense or be good.

Members of the General Assembly: one of your top minds devoted to outer-space research said recently that the UN is still “many years away from having a plan on the ready” to greet interstellar visitors. Canada can do better. Within six months, we will put together for arriving aliens a decent map, some local takeout menus and a basket of 30,000 baby kittens for companionship or snacking.

The arrival of an alien species will be a landmark moment in our shared history. It will change us as a people. You know how in Star Trek the citizens of Earth responded to alien contact by coming together in unity and setting aside petty conflict? Well, that’s not actually going to happen.

In real life, some countries will attempt to destroy the aliens. Others will try to appease them. Thirty per cent of Americans will take one look at the giant alien spacecraft and claim that’s where Obama was born. And if our visitors land first in Iran? They’ll be warp sixing it back to their home nebula before Ahmadinejad can finish vilifying the Jewish menace.

Let Canada assume the burden of first contact and the alien leaders will be more likely to stick around. At least until they find out that it was our Capt. Kirk who slept with their sisters.

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UFO in New York? This is starting to get eerie ...
Things are officially getting weird around here.

A few weeks back, reports surfaced that the United Nations was about to appoint an alien ambassador. Sure, Mazlan Othman, a Malaysian astrophysicist and head of the U.N. Office for Outer Space Affairs, issued a denial to the Guardian that she would be taking on the mantle of the official greeter to the stars.

However, on Oct. 5 at a Royal Society meeting, she said the United Nations ought to be thinking about the important question of who should represent humanity if aliens do come to this planet.

The same week that Othman denied the ambassador role, The Post's John Kelly headed to a news conference where U.S. Air Force officers announced that "UFOs have been systematically hovering over our country's nuclear missiles and occasionally disabling them."

Readers responded with vehemence to his column: "You smug, shallow, myopic [expletive]," one reader wrote Kelly. "I grew up in Wyoming and have personally seen UFOs. They are quite real. Do some research and stop being a skeptical windbag. You know nothing."

Then last week, air traffic controllers in China closed an airport because of what they believed to be a UFO. It was the eighth time since June. The eighth!

Three new books were released on the subject, all beginning with the premise that UFOs do exist. Joshua Blu Buhs writes: "Believing in UFOs is a rational response to the world as it is experienced. Perhaps our jokes, then, stem from lack of understanding -- or fear."

We also just so happened to find a habitable planet relatively nearby?

Now, New Yorkers reported seeing a UFO over the Chelsea neighborhood.

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