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  Posted: Oct 5 2005, 08:47 AM
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wow !!
lots of catching up & reading here !!
no time, though...am at my town public library.
my computer bit the dust[again] and needs repair...soon as i can aford it !

dang........

i was taught a few lessons when i was fifth grader?...by a nice woman who learned through the army ! she taught us the ft. riley seat.
we had to do all sorts of things aboard her horses...standing up on their backs...moving all over them...and of course, we always had to halter them and bring them out, groom them, saddle them, etc. i was in heaven when i went there.
the most important thing we got to do...was an emergency dismount at a gallop.
no fear allowed !!!

but...i had been around horses all my life.
when i was 4, i would sneak into the neighbor's pasture/woods...and find his old wild horse...and i got that gentle giant to lower his head while i made mock bridles out of string !
then...i would lead him to an old feeder and up i went.
he he

i think horses just get in your blood....some sort of born that way.

my last life was an indian male warrior...so, i am told.
i could ride like one i know that...

but...
maybe again...am working on my health and hoping to own a patch of land...horses are not expensive to own really...not the mixed breeds...
ya gotta dream.

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ps...a friend of mine called last night to say she & her hubby saw a triangular ufo yesterday just after dusk...they watched it hover for 15 min. they had seen it the night before for 25 min !
i am going there tonight and we hope it is there again...she reported it to peter davenport...his online report.
kewl.

eeeeeeeeeee O !!

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There will never be a substitute for the sack of potatoes method as a good fundamental introduction to the movement and balance of a horse (and rich parents will probably never see how much that lesson is worth bang.gif ). Unfortunately for those who value horse by dollars, it will mainly be the poor paddock hacks who get to learn this way, so we're lucky really (although the experience of the expensive saddle will forever be out of my reach).

That sawing on the bit thing is a dark little trick that makes its way around the schools out here too, I've heard people giving that trick as advice many a time, like a big secret whispered around the grooming bays while they pass the black face make up around. Now I may be completely straightjacket.gif but that stuff just doesn't make a horse look better to me. I've seen many a horse gag like it is going to throw up when the sawing on the bit advice is taken too.

It never ceased to amaze me how often the dressage riders would fall off in the back paddocks compared to how many paddock hacks would fall off in a sand arena. The dressage riders had so much more technique and knowledge and they looked great on their horses, but there was no grounding or deep earth connection there to help them cope with riding in the natural world - that goes for their horses too, if the horses had paddock sense there would have been less accidents.

Hey Spacie, I hope you get to see that ufo! I saw one of those unblinking lights fly over my house the other night, going south, an aeroplane flew right underneath it going east. One day I hope to be living away from city lights so that I can watch the skies at night and see more stars and flying things. Hope your computer is well again soon. Your military horsemanship skills may be in demand when TSHTF, hope you're ready to teach the youn'uns what you know thumbsup2.gif . There is actually a martial art type of skill involved in falling correctly - makes the difference between a bruise and a break.

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Posted: Oct 5 2005, 08:57 PM
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Warrior Spacie... has a bit of a ring to it smileNew4.gif

If your computer biting the dust is a software problem I could probably walk you through fixing it and making it behave without needing to pay an arm and a leg for a tech to come in. If a piece of your hardware's gone out to lunch though, then that might be another story...

Emergency dismounts! Probably the most entertaining lesson you could ever hope to watch, although we never got to do them at a full gallop (not in the lessons anyways, a horse took it upon herself to teach me that one!)

I've always thought that the paddock hacks were better riders than most of the trained students, even if they didn't look as showy on horseback. They're definitely more fun to ride with! And all of the techniques and positions, any one of them could learn, while what they develop naturally by going out with horses and friends and having fun is something that can't be taught. I've also noticed a profound difference in attitude between the two types of riders. Watch a paddock hack fall off their horse... the odds are quite good that they'll laugh about it, jump back on and continue whatever they were doing, no big deal. Then watch a dressage student (not necessarily dressage, but you know the type of rider I'm talking about) fall off. The entire world stops. They're going to quit riding. They hate their stupid horse and they're a failure of a rider and if only they had a better horse and blah blah blah blah....after some coddling and encouragement from friends and family they'll get back on sniffling and pouting, maybe trot around the ring a few times, pop over a jump then angrily put their horse away, going around and telling everyone who didn't see about their horrible fall.

I can't say I was ever very sympathetic!

Take a paddock hack and teach them the skills and techniques of the dressage rider, and they're unstoppable smileNew4.gif

heh, don't worry about those expensive saddles -- they're nice to sit in, but really make better furniture than riding equipment. I've also found that the cheap Wintec saddles can be really comfy, and that's usually what I'd ride in unless the horse had its own tack. Nutmeg liked them because they were light and didn't put pressure on her withers.

One day I'll have my little patch of dirt and some horses to call my own, it's all I've ever really wanted since I was a little twerp. Whether it comes when this society falls apart or by playing their game a little longer. One day.




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bustingupNEW3.gif Now you're making me laugh Nightshade lol2.gif , yes, the horrible fall of the dressage rider is a spectacle to behold indeed! Poor things, if all their gear is royal blue or maroon or purple (purple was really big for some reason) the brown really messes it up.

One of the paddock hack guys I used to ride with said that I was the only person he ever knew who could change her mind three times in mid air about which part of her body she wanted to land on. I never got hurt horse riding even with the trip-ups and kicks and slips and freak outs that happen 'out back' (It took a hell of an impact on my car from a 4wd to damage me in any way).

That's a coincidence that you mentioned Wintec saddles - mine is a Swap Top kids pony pad. It doesn't weigh anything at all until you put stirrups on it and all my gear fits in one plastic tub including the saddle. I like it because its light, soft, and it doesn't add width to the horse (handy if you can't avoid that roll in the muddy dam too). Wintec gets 10/10 for the injection moulded rubber concept. I kept it because it was so cheap that it was more worthwhile to hold onto than to sell it.

My choice of horse is usually the outgrown and bored pony too and that suits my choice of saddle just perfect. I like them bombproof and reliable and they don't have to be pretty. My buy-list is for under 14hh, thick legs and a long neck. Many an unwanted pony is just fine for me, they get to do stuff with me and I get a grateful friend. One day I'll be in a position to take on another one, one day (when I have land and if my doctors let me ride. Though if TSHTF there won't be any question about it). That's all I ever wanted too. First I had horses and no land or house, then I had land and no house and no horses, now I have a house but no land or horses. If I could just get all three together sasquatch-cry.gif ...


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One of the paddock hack guys I used to ride with said that I was the only person he ever knew who could change her mind three times in mid air about which part of her body she wanted to land on.

Now that takes some serious talent!

I couldn't tell you much about the way I fall except that I've never been hurt more than the odd bruise making the transition from horse to ground, not even from 17hh thoroughbreds gone crazy with spring fever. The first time I fell off, I somehow managed to land crouched down on my feet, a little stunned and trying to figure out what had just happened while my instructor was nearly doubled over laughing. I think I learned my sympathy for the falling dressage riders from her.

The worst injury I've sustained around horses was from being kicked in the thigh out in the paddock at night -- the horse I was leasing at the time was a spirited but sweet natured Anglo-Arab, but there was another horse nearly identical to her turned out in the same paddock who happened to be a real grouch, and needed to be approached with a degree of caution. Well, it was dark and I was in a hurry to get tacked up knowing that my horse would be covered head to toe in mud. Mistaking one for the other, I got a little too close too quickly without enough warning when she wheeled around and hoofed me hard in the thigh. Ouch. That was the first and only time I'd ever been kicked. I tried pretending that it didn't bother me (probably for the wrong reasons, I had the hots for the man who owned the stable and was teaching that night's lesson, and didn't want to come across as a wuss laughspin.gif ), but you could clearly see the lump on my thigh slowly swelling up to about the size of my head. When I took my breaches off to get a closer look at it an hour later, you could still see the fine details of her shoe imprinted in my skin.

Lesson learned!

Too bad there isn't a "correct" way to get hit by a 4wd like there is for falling off a horse eh?

I think when the day comes, I'll have to get used to riding ponies. Most of my experience has been with larger horses, so anything under 15.3hh feels a little small, and anything under 15hh feels downright awkward to me. When the day comes though, sturdiness is going to be what counts and that's going to be the types of ponies that you described.




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I remember the first time I fell off too Nightshade lol.gif . I was 11 years old on a holiday camp trail ride. The pony was probably all of 12hh but she had a reputation for throwing people (so I found out after my fall). There was part of the ride that went through a wooded area with blackberry vines and she got a blackberry vine around one of her feet and frightened herself. She threw me face first into the thorns. And OMG there was this camp leader and every girl on camp except me was drooling over him. I just didn't understand the concept of a crush at that age so it was a few years before I kicked myself in the butt for what I did next. He offered to let me ride with him on his horse... Yep, I said no. I got back on that sour little pony and continued like nothing had happened and told everyone that it wasn't her fault. Then I made a point of choosing her for every single ride after that too because I figured that it would make me a better rider. She was also a puddle duck and may have influenced my decision to buy a rubber saddle later in life straightjacket.gif . Bloody robot kid I was. And bloody what we do for horse men hey bang.gif ?

There have been times in my life when I've wandered in a dark paddock in search of my dark horse too. Usually closer to 3am after distressing encounters with people though.

I don't know if it was any real talent with my falling choices, just the same rules as ice skating really - on your side is better than on your back, make a fist, tuck your head under, keep your legs bent, arms covering your ribs, exhale before hitting the ground. Whether that was right or wrong I don't know, but that's what I based my mid air twistings on. Crazy hopings that I'm reducing potential for any serious damage crazy.gif Actually, a doctor told me that if I'm ever about to be hit again by in a car accident to not have either of my feet on any pedals so that the impact shock wouldn't travel up to damage my hips again. And it helps to have your seat specialised for your back. But you don't usually learn these things until after it happens, figures... blushNEW.gif


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And bloody what we do for horse men hey bang.gif ?

Oh man, tell me about it... bang.gif is right!

Men have always made me go completely stoopid, but make him a horse man with that balance of rugged gentleness, and sanity and common sense promptly decide to go out to lunch on me.

I'd like to say that a nice, long, monogamous relationship has fixed that, but really, I just get 10 times as stupid over one man blushNEW.gif


At least that sour little pony must have felt real special to be chosen over the hotty camp leader! Nothing like riding a horse that's talented at throwing people off to make you a better rider.

Horses have a funny way of saying just the right thing when you've had distressing encounters with people, no matter what the time of day. From time to time when things were really bad at home I would bike down to the stable in the middle of the night and sleep in the hayloft, it always felt better knowing all the horses were nearby with the soft sounds of their breathing and the familiar smells of the stable. If that didn't make me feel better, then being attacked by that crazy three-legged barn cat was sure to take my mind off whatever was bothering me!




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hiay...my computer is still glitchy & a friend of my son's is coming by today after school to help us.
short on time too today...must get back into mainstream work force....soon !!

i had a synthetic english saddle that i loved...not dressage or jumping type...just regular forward seat type.

the other day after reading this thread...in my errands about town...ran into an old friend who has doubled in weight...cause he sold his horse and he was so embarressed to bump into me.
horses do give ya LIFE !!
then....while at a computer fixit shop...up pulls a horse trailer with a young 3 year old filly inside...the two guys were taking her to a new owner and they told me they have a few mustangs for sale and it was so nice to mingle...and they asked to come by their farm any ol time !!!!!!!!!

so...
must get a job...cause the dream is now aLIVE..

thanks to you both...
VPF...female ?????????????????????????

he he

kewl.

keep writing !!!!!!!!!!
i am reading and feeling at one with what you say and i agree on all counts !!

i grew up in northern virginia...a distinct line was drawn between the aristocrats way of riding and me..the poorer yet my horse was my only friend for many years.
i would escape my parents and home life daily on my horse and i met so many neat people as i rode...
a crazy ol black woman who would routinely go into other selves and knew about times of slavery and such...she lived alone & was well into her 80s...and kept a pet rooster in her home in one bedroom...empty except for a step ladder the rooster had !!!!!!!!
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the stories she could weave
my horse would relax and graze with me aboard sitting wherever felt comfortable.

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the 'ufo' dazzled both my friend and i the other night
twas way way away...
seems i had been tricked before by this particular sight
hmmm
i remember a few saying it was a twinkler mother ship
and it was fun bonding with my lady friend
our girls now are growing up and leaving us moms empty nest
we dreamed of aliens watching us and telling us
all will be well
destiny rules
ah...
but, a quick surf to spaceweather.com..
the mystery ufo solved
ANTARES !!
beautiful in the sky now showing !!!!!!!!!

now...
i must break the 'news' to my mystical friend.
maybe with some wine.........

am off again.
seeking employment

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Posted: Oct 7 2005, 10:22 AM
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wow...was just getting into the employment seeking grind for the day and feeling absolutely dismal...That horrible crushing sensation that's been a little too familiar lately. I think I've sent resumes off to every single person and agency hiring in this city and all I hear is "we'll call you back." Can't even say a simple "no" to my face, or on the phone, or in an email. When I remembered that often I used to see horsey-type jobs not in the employment section of the paper, but in the livestock sales and board sections of the classifieds. Nothing in there but an arabian mare for sale, but I did find that there's a BIG cluster of stables and riding schools tucked away just south of the inner city! I'd thought that they were all far out on the outskirts where the buses don't run, but these are a hop skip and a jump away on the skytrain and bus. I think I'll just wander around that area over the weekend and check things out -- surely at least one stable could use a hand shovelling poop from the stalls.

It would breathe some life back into me, that's for sure.

Funny how when things aren't working, no matter how much effort I'm putting into it, it never occurs to me that maybe, just maybe it isn't what I'm supposed to be doing. Even when I know damn well that it's not what I want to be doing with my life, it's hard to accept that what you're aiming for is wrong when you can't see any alternatives and the pressure's on.

Maybe things will work out a little better now that I feel that I'm pointed in the right direction (just looked at the clock -- 11:11)

Damn, how difficult things can get when you aren't true to yourself, eh? doh5.gif

Keep on dreaming, and don't let anyone else dictate which direction is right for YOU if it doesn't match up with what you know is right inside.

I know that finding a cluster of nearby stables isn't really much to go on, but I get a little feeling when something is about to work out just perfectly, like all the stars have lined up and the stage is set, and that little feeling has never let me down before! Something's about to happen.




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Wow, this thread seems to be turning into a working example of synchronicity. I've just been registered with a job seeking agency too, but I'm also reluctant to take steps away from what I really want to do, so (if we're all sharing a few guides here backtotopic.gif we aren't really totally taking this post off track, sometimes in life it just seems that way for a while) hopefully something of interest will come up that will have some income attached to it. I met someone a few weeks ago who runs a horse camp but pays only by giving experience and a free camp. That was just the indicator happenstance. It's a start to know that you do run into people and seemingly chance encounters can turn out to be much more. So here I go, keeping my awareness sharp so that I don't miss the encounter that is 'meant to be'. Maybe there will be a horsey type place (ethical industry of course) that needs some paperwork, stock ordering and tack maintenance done, maybe...

Now if things fall into place and Nightshade finds her perfect job at those newly discovered nearby stables and if Spacie's lead with the mustangs turns up something further and if I happen across that encounter that I know will come up... perhaps we'll all find that perfect job cheers2.gif . It sure sounds like we've all spent many years pouring all our effort into jobs and looking for jobs we didn't want to do at all, and now we've been steered into a place where we have to make that choice to do what resonates with our souls properly in order to make a living. It seems to me that this would be a necessary part of moving into higher vibrational rates and our guides really don't want us being left behind this time. You're absolutely right Nightshade, things are so very difficult when you aren't true to yourself. That's a hard lesson indeed and I'm only just learning that one.

This could be 11th hour stuff (the 11's have been haunting me for years). I know there's more to why the 11:11 on your clock was significant to you Nightshade but I'm not up on astrology and numerology so I only get to notice the recurrence of numbers as incidents of synchronicity. At least I recognise most of the time when it happens blushNEW.gif .

Maybe if I keep my sights on the fact that these things are happening, I will be able to brush off all those places that never even let you know that they have no intention of granting me an interview (they crush me too Nightshade).

Spacie, you're lucky to have young people around to help you with your computer, I hope you get it going again soon. Keep looking up too, because the etv's (ufo's to us but very identifiable to gov which is why they can say there are no ufos - to gov' they are all etv's) are there, and sooner or later we see a few of them.

Good luck with the job search for that higher spiritual employment everyone!

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Things always come full circle sooner or later, and it can be a fine line between off topic and a necessary (and very therapeutic) detour smileNew4.gif

The only downside to asking for guidance is that when you receive it, you really feel like smacking yourself in the head doh5.gif !

Years ago I more or less crushed my hopes and dreams beneath my heel like a cigarette butt after being told that what I wanted in life was wrong. I was pretty strung out coming off the drugs and trying not to drink myself to death, and desperate enough for any way to hold my head above the water that I was willing to listen to anything. Even if that meant throwing my dreams in the trash because they just aren't what normal people do in the real world. At the time I certainly wasn't living those dreams anymore, but I still knew what it was that I really to do with myself.

It just kind of hit me earlier - if I know what I really want, then why on earth am I continuing to listen to miserable people tell me how I should live my life? Why am I trying so hard to continue doing something that sucks the spirit out of me? Why am I getting so frustrated and upset when something that I don't want, that I know damn well is going to make me miserable, is refusing to work for me? Like the saying goes (NA and AA meetings are excellent places to pick up good sayings, if nothing else), if you're in a hole, STOP DIGGING!

Even though I haven't found anything concrete, I feel so free just to have popped out the rut I've been spinning my wheels in.

I know that the whole 11:11 thing has some sort of deep meaning in numerology and other areas, but I've heard so many different things all claiming to be right that I pretty much ignore them all (keeping them in the back of my head) and go on what I see. And every time I see that number pop up, it does so just when the pieces are about to fall in to place.

They're talking about horses on Coast right now smileNew4.gif

Feels good to finally see an alternative to banging my head against the wall.

I guess Mars hanging out in my sign and forcing me to look within hasn't been such a bad thing after all!

Best of luck to everyone.

Keeping my eyes open..

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at age 56, am content if i meet my maker.
i am making sure my kids will not have too many hassles if i decide to cross over...
getting papers in order.

i am done my main goal..having kids and being a mom !
i am mostly male[80%] energy...so, the whole parenting thing is a real stretch for me........

nightshade...my daughter & i met a lady who taught my daughter the basics of riding...at age 13, she was NOT listening[or believing anything i had to offer]...anyway...the lady worked at a nice new stable[the owners were themselves Godly !]...she mostly mucked stalls and handled the stallions and helped watch the mares near birthing time...they let her teach riding and she got the money...she was formerly a special education teacher. she got pissed when they told her she had to change the diapers of one of the more retarded teens !

she eventually quit the stable...and now runs her own breeding farm.

i will be happy pushing papers...am gettin way too old for muck jobs...the back goes first.

anyway...
found this...
it is from the michael entity teachings...a mothership that gives readings and such.

http://www.itstime.com/sep2005.htm

my friend is ok with the ANTARES sighting...
i know they are there...have seen the discs and felt one cloaked that passed right over me and made me buzz all over. i was barely age 5 !!

oiy.

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Thank you Spacie smileNew4.gif

If the person who wrote that article had a Laz around to regularly destroy their computers, they would have known to keep at least two backups!

I have a bad tendency to either focus completely on all the things that are going wrong in my life, or sit around being grateful for the things that are going right and completely ignore anything that's going wrong, not doing anything about it. Working on finding that middle ground where I can have gratitude for the good things, but still be aware of and fix the problems as they crop up.

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So, instead of tromping through Vancouver's stables, I'm swapping out hard drives in Laz's computer and waiting by the phone. My dad called at about 1am last night (he's always had great timing...) to let me know that one of the places I'd applied for that said they'd call back but never did should, in fact, be calling me sometime today. Turns out his room-mate works there and had a talk with one of the other managers (not the one who decided I wasn't bubbly or trendy enough, or whatever it was that was running through her head), so we'll see if they live up to their end of the bargain. My first instinct was actually to say screw that -- I've got other plans in mind right now and don't have time for their head games, besides which, doing retail at the Gap is pretty near rock bottom on my list of things that I'd like to do. I was also a little miffed on a personal level because being turned away from the Gap is about a step or two up from being turned away from McDonalds!

But turning away any opportunities right now just because they aren't "ideal" would be really foolish on my part. The fact that someone took the time and effort to try and pull some strings for me when they didn't have to also makes me less inclined to blow it off. And if I can land it, it would take the pressure off while I find something that I'll like doing ("You know, I'd really rather be mucking stalls" is definitely high up there on the list of things not to say at a job interview!). On the bright side, it's down on Robson St which has a really neat atmosphere about it, and this group of stables I'm looking at is just south of downtown, so I'll be in the right neck of the woods.

I'm getting ahead of myself here, they might not even bother calling! lol.gif

I've only seen one ufo in my lifetime, that was last winter, but I've known they're out there since the first time I looked up at the sky.

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Posted: Oct 8 2005, 06:02 PM
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Wow, Nightshade your Dad sounds very helpful. It may just work out for you to have a stepping stone job which brings you close to the stables. Is this a food outlet at the Gap? Even though that kind of work isn't very mentally stimulating, the smell of fresh food and sounds of people taking a bit of time to relax can be calming to be around even if you're run off your feet working in the place (and allows a bit of time for daydreaming in the comfort of knowing that you're getting a bit of money for being there). The downside to that industry is exactly what you mentioned "head games" - management need to find other ways to occupy their minds too and they tend to be entirely work focused in entirely the wrong way (ego trips substitute for real self esteem etc). If you're lucky you may get a shift that lets you head out to the stables after work. I hope they call you back, specially after your Dad has put effort into helping out. hugs.gif It may be a step towards getting where you want to go, and if it doesn't work out or it doesn't take you where you want to go, don't let yourself believe that it reflects on you in any way because its a 'horses for courses' world and we have good reasons for not all being thoroughbreds, arabs and warmbloods winkNEW.gif .

Hi Spacie waving.gif , here's another bit of synchronicity for you. I've been telling my friend that sometimes the words of a stranger will work where familiar voices will fail and he didn't quite understand until last night whilst we were watching Monty Roberts "Load Up" where the owners who couldn't get their horses to go on a float were bringing them to a remedial lecture session.

The horses went on the float in no time for Monty Roberts. I made an observation which sounds almost exactly like what you just said about your daughter too. I said "They don't know him so they aren't sure how he'll react if they're disrespectful to him so they figure its better to be safe first up. He (Monty) has both eyes in front of his head which means that he is a carnivore and potential danger. When they look at each other they only see one eye looking back because their eyes are at the sides of their heads and that means 'safe', when they look at us they see two eyes looking back and that means 'predator', that's why Monty looks at the ground or approaches them diagonally. Until they have him pegged they do what he wants until they work out how far they can push him, whereas they have their owners worked out already and have gotten away with being pushy in the past. That's why sometimes a stranger can get through with authority where a familiar person can't".

Funny hey, that kids work exactly the same way! No matter, its not a bad thing to put your kids in the hands of a new person to get an important lesson through, as long as that person is good at what they do and trustworthy, you have made one of those good old hard decisions and done the right thing. Doing what works and taking control sometimes means handing a project over to someone else to get certain points completed in a way which complements all the hard work you've put in already. The finished product will be much better because you've recognised the way that your life's work operates. And it sounds from what you said that your daughter has turned out very well! handclap.gif respekt.gif


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