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Posted: Jan 10 2005, 01:25 AM
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Seralia where did you get this image of the two bulbs or staffs pointing at eachother?

I edited that into her post. I just snuck it in without saying anything.

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I also noticed that PuPP added one image to my last post depicting not just one light bulb but two of them with what appear to be large copper wires connected to some kind of box which does look like a battery.

Hope that was alright with you Seralia, if you want, you can remove it.

I cannot recall what website it came from but it was one of the best clear images I have seen so I saved it. Ya know I'm a packrat for collecting stuff.

Sorry for the confusion.
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Posted: Jan 10 2005, 11:11 AM
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PuPP is that picture a combination of two pics,
or was it representative of a complete single carving section?
You can't find the URL ????
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Posted: Jan 10 2005, 08:52 PM
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V, I believe it is ONE image of ONE carving.

Though it does look pieced together, as if it was scanned from a book photograph.

Sorry I don't have a link at the moment. If I find one, I'll post it.




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Posted: Jan 10 2005, 10:30 PM
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I believe it is ONE image of ONE carving.

Though it does look pieced together, as if it was scanned from a book photograph."

Yes PuPP I Believe so too.

Also I think they are involved in a ritual
possibly fertility and marriage.


The bringing together of the DNA, male and female,
in union,
the staffs with the symbolic sections of the helix ,
the coiling snakes,
to form the double helix.

A wild guess on my part

but also perhaps one can tangentialize,
and interpolate into the aspects of cosmic energy and breeding,
infusing certain energies into capacity of soul,
via religious ritual incorporating perhaps some Egyptians beliefs
of universal energy source in tandem with,
earth lines of energy,
baptizing the pregnancy and marriage with unique
infused "gods" solar- electric powers....
Why is Hathor there with the wings in his hands , if they are wings as I assume?
In the single bulb image Seralia posted?


Notice the unusual floriform "sockets " of the "bulbs"
in PuPPs post of the bulbs
fascinating

What is in that battery...? the large rectangular box with the attached cable?
One of those crystals Trista mentioned?
What is the large leaning support attachment to the bulb with the concentric rings ?

Or is it just a battery.?
Or is the crystal in the socket ...?

Wild conjecture that is all.....on my part of course.


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Posted: Jan 10 2005, 10:49 PM
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Yeah V, My jaw won't stay shut!

LOL

Seralia is awesome!

I had never seen all of those wheeled images of the Aztecs.

One reminds me of a pinwheel toy we would play with in the wind.

And the spools...man... WTF? Those are incredible!

My current theory is earth was invaded or there was a great catastrophe and all knowledge was lost. Perhaps intentionally. Perhaps even the advanced beings left which resulted in the Nazca lines with the natives asking for them to return with the runways for the shuttle craft.

user posted image

user posted image

It's obvious to me that we currently live in an advanced species society.

But it appears to be overun with evil intentions.




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Posted: Jan 11 2005, 01:35 AM
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I edited that into her post. I just snuck it in without saying anything.

Hope that was alright with you Seralia, if you want, you can remove it.


It's a very good picture PuPP. Thanx for sneaking it into my post. smileNew4.gif


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I have a couple of 3000 year old bronzes that are quite intact,
and the premise here is that if you had bulbs lighting chambers, ther would be a wire supply-lots of it.
Electroplating takes a hammered wire maybe 12 inches long,
a long chamber needs hundreds of feet of wire.

If so , there should be some evidence of bales of coiled wire found,
or some form of evidence that wire was manufactured then in extremely long lengths or sections of length "wired together"

There should be lots of hammered wire found still intact somewhere it seems.


The one problem for anything to remain intact, especially copper wire, gold artifacts and things like that is that they sometimes do get plundered and melted down and used for another purpose or hidden somewhere. As for there being a need for a lot of wire. As far as I can tell, these lights were portable so that the power supply could be carried by one person while the other one carried the light.

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What is in that battery...? the large rectangular box with the attached cable?
One of those crystals Trista mentioned?
What is the large leaning support attachment to the bulb with the concentric rings ?

Or is it just a battery.?
Or is the crystal in the socket ...?

Wild conjecture that is all.....on my part of course.



chinscratch.gif I'd like to know what's in the box too but it's most likely some type of battery though I wouldn't rule out that there could be some advanced power generation device hidden in it. The large support appears to be a holder for the bulb because, like most light bulbs, it probably got too hot to touch after a while. Plus if the depictions of it are to scale, then it would have been very awkward to carry around. As for where the depictions are located, I did manage to find out where they are and what dynasty they're from.

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The Egyptian lamp
A strange thing, which can be found in an underground cavern below the Hathor-temple in Dendera, Egypt. A few pictures of bulb-like devices, into which two small arms reach before its thick, rounded end. These arms are supported by a column which looks much like a modern high voltage insulator. At the thin end however runs something like a cable into the glass bulb. From this striking out and almost reaching the arms on the other side a snake can be seen, hanging in the air. The whole arrangement has a striking resemblance to an electric lamp.
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Temple of Hathor/Temple of Nefertari - Dynasty XIX, c. 1275-1225 BCE


http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/egypt/a.../nefertari.html

I was hoping that Nefertari had an elongated skull, but she was one of the almost normal looking elite. rolleyesNEW.gif

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Posted: Jan 11 2005, 01:47 AM
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Whew! Seralia... I was hoping you wouldn't mind.

Nefertari and Nefertiti... 2 different people... correct?

Dang Names are so confusing sometimes!

This computerized Tut image stuns me Seralia. Thanks for posting it.

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It reminds me so much of...

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Posted: Jan 14 2005, 12:25 AM
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"The one problem for anything to remain intact, especially copper wire, gold artifacts and things like that is that they sometimes do get plundered and melted down and used for another purpose or hidden somewhere."

why were no bulbs or such wires ever found in the tombs?
Certainly, at least wire of some sort should have been found in a tomb,
that pertained to electrical conductivity , not just for hanging things with thin hammered metal strips. .



"As for there being a need for a lot of wire. As far as I can tell, these lights were portable so that the power supply could be carried by one person while the other one carried the light."

Well that is valid enough conjecture...all we have evidence of is huge bulbs and huge cables, so I guess we can assume that they had the "flashlight model" for tighter darker temple passageway travel, or even small tunnels.
I suppose the battery could be backpacked, or carted, and cables were LOTS of hammered strips that had enough integrity to stay functionally intact....
Like I said DRAWN wire is a lot different than hammered strips pounded together.
The Egyptians did not have drawn wire.
The Vikings were the earliest to have drawn wire.
I imagine that the Egytians had a sewn meshwork of twsited coiling hammered strips
of some fashion,to produce a cable of the proposed bulbs that are depicted in the carvings.




"The large support appears to be a holder for the bulb because, like most light bulbs, it probably got too hot to touch after a while. Plus if the depictions of it are to scale, then it would have been very awkward to carry around. As for where the depictions are located, I did manage to find out where they are and what dynasty they're from."

The large support which is referred to as an insulator in the copied text from geocities-{link is now down}-is only on one of the bulbs.In one depiction an attendant is holding the other bulb up.

In the single picture of seralias post,
the bulb that is supported by the "insulator"
also exhibits an interior feature that connects to the snake.
See the link I posted earlier, with the drawing of the carving.

This part to me indicates more evidence for a power source application than anything. Cllearly the Egyptians were attempting to maximize some form of power transformation, on whatever level of capacity they had.
This is not to say that they had huge unlimited power source that flew planes and
lit up the Casino Pyramid Royale...
after all...if they had planes, why did they not have similarly powered land vehicles...?
chariots were driven by man and horse.
Winged bronze chariots need a lot of power to fly.
batteries carried into passageways for sparse at best lighting does not indicate vast control over crystal electric Earth lines power source.

My presumption here is that the carvings are depicting some strange power adapted light production, but it is feeble at best, and is used for ritualistic parameters in this depiction as a symbolic illuminator of life and universal energies.in a marriage or fertility ceremony.

Certainly if they could electroplate, they could extrapolate that primitive technology into glowing apparatus.This is not to say that thelight had any vacuum properties either.There could be current going to chemical constituents that illumine or even incandesce with flame like properties.
For there to be glass bulbs, there should also be egyptian glass vases and jars ,
and windshields for the planes.

It could be a cable line or conduit of olive oil going into a glass tube, or framework,l that burns or incandesces along the form of a snake as well.
Ha!

But then WTF is that insulator thing..
damn...
and why so large...a support need not be shaped like this.




Temple of Hathor/Temple of Nefertari - Dynasty XIX, c. 1275-1225 BCE

so this is the time period of both pictures of bulbs?
has the wooden plane been dated..?
I had actually hoped for earlier dating of the bulb apparatus.

I believe the wooden plane is a primitive attempt to carve that which they saw flying in the air, by aliens, which would have come from a mother ship.
Otherwise it is a bird.
If the Egyptians were using crystal-Earthline power to fly craft,
the craft were wooden gliders or fairly simple wing form, in the style of the one carved....
They also could have used wind with sails to lift a glider airborne initially...?
They did not use jet fuel or gasoline.
Or olive oil.
Ha !
They did not have a Bogusdad battery powering trans Saharan flight, with giant insulators on board.

Somewhere there is an "official"explanation of the bulbs...
Who is the big Egyptian clown with smiley lies..Hassawi?
I bet he has a twist on this..
Pretty tough to backpedal from the cable attachment and the insulator.

Looks like a light to me as well, what it is lit by ,
remains uncertain.

I love the floriform sockets of the bulbs in the PuPP insertion of Seralias thread









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Posted: Jan 14 2005, 12:32 AM
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In reference to the above post by me
is another link I found with better views of the bulbs ,
a full on view of PuPPs insertion , and closeup of Seralias bulb post,
including a new drawing with strange cable sections laeding to the bulbs

http://www.lost-civilizations.net/ancient-...ce-alchemy.html

"Even as early as 3400 B.C., at the beginning of the historical period, the Egyptians had an intimate knowledge of copper ores and of processes of extracting the metal. During the fourth and subsequent dynasties (i.e. from about 2900 B.C. onwards), metals seem to have been entirely monopolies of the Court, the management of the mines and quarries being entrusted to the highest officials and sometimes even to the sons of the Pharaoh."

Now go to the link and scroll down to the drawing of the

"metal workers shop "

notice in the bottom center the two workers are blowing something into form...
looks like a battery on the far right of that...

comments on this drawing..?


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Posted: Jan 14 2005, 01:09 AM
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Here is a light bulb debunker to add to my last 2 posts.

Though he does not attribute any thing specific like I did to caduceus staff attribution, 'the caduceus staff energies are more in line with this guys explanation.

I still think that it is too coincidental that the bulbs and cables,
look like bulbs and cables,
not to mention the metal workers shop picture....

But then once about 20 years ago I saw what is called
a Chinese Warring States bronze chariot jingle-about 3000 years old.
This is a bronze ball that bounces around in a bronze framework that embellishes a ringing sound.
This is one of the most fascinating bronzes I have EVER SEEN.
'It looked like a filigree model of an art deco period microphone or speaker phone for radio broadcast.It was totally bizarre and would be located at the front corner of the chariot top framework, probably as a pair on each end of the front, in a finial like fashion.

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One of his epithets is Nekhbu-ur Re ("Re, the Great Lotus.). He also is referred to as "That great god who is within the lotus bud of gold." And that is what the hieroglyphs directly above the lotus bulbs read, "Gold Ka."

As if that were not convincing enough, Rundle Clark writes, "Hence, what rises from the opening flower is the world soul which is the light, [and] life ...of the sun" and that the pictorial symbolism the lotus "opens to reveal the head of the emerging soul, the Divine Child." The Pharaoh was traditionally portrayed as a young child within the lotus flower. And in later times, lay people too, aspired to the same ideal.

The god who personifies attributes of the newly born sun is Nefer-Tem. He wears the long-stemmed lotus upon his head. So, too, are the heads of most mummy sarcophagi guilded with a golden lotus. Although it is not within the scope of this article to get into it here, many other world traditions revere the lotus and associate it with birth and death mysteries. Also, the crown chakra at the top of the head, as described in the yogic system, is none other than the thousand petaled lotus which confers transcendent consciousness. So we learn that from the lotus womb of light the divine is birthed into matter, and from the crown of the head one enters the lotus of light for rebirth into the next world!

ENCRYPTED IN THE CRYPT

Although three lotus bulbs are displayed in the crypt reliefs, the tableau is actually a representation of the One archetypal lotus of creation in three separate phases of embryonic development. On the left is Atum-Ra (creative principle of heaven and Earth) supporting the lotus from below. On the right is the next growth phase where the bulb is being supported by the Djed (symbol of stability), whose upraised arms form the ideogram "Ka," thus emphasizing the contents of the bud as the solar "Ka." At the far right of the crypt the third-phase bud is supported by everyone-Atum-Ra, the Djed, the two seated figures, plus an unidentified female.

Confirming this view, one set of hieroglyph reads, roughly, "Golden Lord of the Sky, exalted (raised up?), three lunar months." The other set of hieroglyphs specify "four lunar months." It does not say how old the third bud is.

The two large figures behind the lotus buds each stand upon a rectangular block (symbolizing a body of water out of which the lotus grows). There are slight differences between the size and height of each body of water, suggesting separate stages of the divine bud's development.

Since the lotus is a flower that opens up towards the light at dawn it is likely that the fully mature lotus bud is depicted in its mature vertical attribute in one of the other crypts. One researcher has in fact referred to two additional panels showing the lotus bulb containing the serpent in an independent upright position, minus the supporting attendant figures and connecting "cable" (i.e., stem), but identified no location.

"AS ABOVE, SO BELOW"

To set the record straight, then, the huge bulb-shaped objects are lotus bulbs-not electron tubes. Yet, strangely, they are each in their own way "light" bulbs-sources of radiance. The serpents within the bulbs are the Ka of Horus-not an electron beam or electric current. Yet, strangely, the Ka may have its own type of radiation. Emanating from the bud bulbs are the long graceful stems of the lotus that are rooted in mud below the water level of marshes, rivers, or the mythic primeval waters. (Brahma, the Hindu creator god, also rests within a lotus that arises on a lengthy stalk out of the abyss of creation.) Strangely, both stem and wire do conduct energy to each of their bulbs. The stems connect to rectangular blocks (artistic rendering of "bodies of water")-not power generator boxes. Yet, strangely, both "rectangles" source their own kind of energy for stem or cable. The Djed pillar supporting the lotus bulb is the symbol of "stability"-not a high-voltage insulator. And beneath the lotus bud where everyone is helping to support it, two of the figures use their heads as supports, easing the burden by means of a circular pad. They are not receiving energy rays from the bulb through their heads.


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