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Posted by: Blue Eyed May 25 2006, 01:39 PM
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The Place to Chit Chat About Anything.
Do Not Post Articles Here


k.... guess I've got to chit chat all on my own in here.... rolleyesNEW.gif as I seem to be the only European in here...


so what's new in the Norwegian newspapers this week?
lol
the US seems to hate us...
so what’s new...
we are free-thinkers...
and the US don't like that...

now we are quarrelling about the new JSF-jets… If you’re not gonna pay – you can’t play…. says the US to Norway...
Link: http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1327310.ece

Posted by: Blue Eyed May 25 2006, 01:43 PM
k....
not too long ago the US wanted to stop 'Hamas' from visiting Norway -
says Foreign Minister Støre to Aftenposten: http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1290604.ece

Posted by: Mark May 25 2006, 03:30 PM
IMO, Hamas seems to serve the interests of Israel more than Palestinians.

Hamas will have some mortars or grenade launchers aimed at Jewish settlements and then Israel retaliates by busting down the doors of "suspected" militants with a free ticket to murder more children.

IMHO, Hamas serves Israel

Always ask yourself, WHO BENEFITS?

Posted by: Mark May 25 2006, 03:33 PM
Also, where does Hamas get all of these cool toys (weapons?) while the real oppressed people have mere stones to throw at tanks?

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IMO, the beings who create and distribute weapons of death are the real terrorists.

Posted by: Mark May 25 2006, 03:37 PM
Blue Eyed, I don't hate Norweigans or any Europeans.

Don't believe everything you read in the news.

Our US govt does NOT represent its good people.

Our US govt only represents the greedy selfish Americans who live in a dog-eat-dog world and who want it all.

"He who dies with the most toys wins"
~ New American Motto

Posted by: redniut May 25 2006, 05:07 PM
hi blue eyed,


absolutely not the only european hugs.gif

jam.gif jam.gif jam.gif jam.gif jam.gif


but i do not live in europe anymore...

anyway cheers.gif

rn.

Posted by: Blue Eyed May 28 2006, 09:30 AM
QUOTE (redniut @ May 26 2006, 02:07 AM)
hi blue eyed,


absolutely not the only european  hugs.gif

jam.gif  jam.gif  jam.gif  jam.gif  jam.gif


but i do not live in europe anymore...

anyway cheers.gif

rn.



cool rn! thumbsup2.gif

and just be "that" mysterious European that you wanna be hugs.gif - I'm not going to data mine you!! lol just cool to know you’re there

coolsmiley.gif

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Blue Eyed, I don't hate Norweigans or any Europeans.

Don't believe everything you read in the news.

Our US govt does NOT represent its good people.


Pupp, don't take me that serious ok... hugs.gif lol2.gif

Posted by: Mark May 28 2006, 09:38 AM
Ok, I won't. hugs.gif
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Posted by: Blue Eyed May 28 2006, 10:17 AM
QUOTE (PuPP @ May 28 2006, 06:38 PM)
Ok, I won't. hugs.gif
face.gif



Thanks Pupp!!! Read into my writings some irony from time to time lol2.gif


When it comes to those JFS-jets…. I think you (the US) are testing us in some ways. And why test out the little country of ours?


Because we last year decided to pull out our forces from the Iraqian war which we heavily protested against anyway??!
That we’ve decided to pull out our F16’s from the NATO-forces of Afghanistan?? Or maybe because our Government brought out the “crazy” idea of a boycott of the Israeli products (like oranges lol) because of the occuptaion of the Palestinians?? lol


Oh… and I think that the main reason to invite the Hamas was to find some diplomatic ways to make them accept the state of Israel. And something went wrong.



Posted by: Wahya May 28 2006, 08:38 PM
Look at this face. Who can hate norwegians? scratchinghead.gif


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Posted by: Mark May 28 2006, 09:17 PM
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George W. Bush in all of his glory compiled of images of dead soldiers in his war over lies and profits.

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Posted by: Blue Eyed May 29 2006, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (Wahya @ May 29 2006, 05:38 AM)
Look at this face. Who can hate norwegians? scratchinghead.gif


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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/Wahya/HPIM0194.jpg



Åhhhhh såååååå skjønn... Thor is absolutely gorgeous smileNew4.gif and he looks so joyful in the pic. You'll just have to love that face - Norwegian or not winkNEW.gif




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blinkNEW.gif Pupp! I've never seen that "soldier"-pic of Bush before...... what a sad human being he is.

Posted by: Mark May 29 2006, 11:29 AM
Wahya, is that really Thor?

Such a loving looking guy ...I just wanna hug him.



Posted by: Mark May 29 2006, 11:30 AM
Hi Blue Eyed, isn't that an amazing likeness of the liar and thief using the victims that his race/species has sent off to die in their war for profits and genocide?

I do not know who created it, but they did an excellant job.

Posted by: Wahya May 29 2006, 07:48 PM
Yeah that's my Thor.

lsnt he a sweetheart?


He's just as friendly as he looks too.

Posted by: Blue Eyed Jun 2 2006, 05:30 AM
QUOTE (Wahya @ May 30 2006, 04:48 AM)
Yeah that's my Thor.

lsnt he a sweetheart?


He's just as friendly as he looks too.



I want to let my fingers run through his soft thick fur winkNEW.gif
Hopefully he wouldn't bite!




More news from my corner of the world:

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Security tight for "Satanist" date
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1336139.ece
All across Norway precautions are being mounted to prevent churches being torched on June 6, 2006 - 06.06.06.
The Church Employer and Interest Organization (KA) have decided upon a safety first approach, and warned all responsible for Norwegian churches to be on guard on the day.
"We do not wish to contribute to increased attention on this matter, but to signal a potential risk," KA division leader Øystein Dahle told newspaper Vårt Land.
Dahle said he would have preferred to ignore the date, but must recognize that certain circles are fascinated by the date, and the association with the number 666 linked to the devil. The KA has asked for vigilance around churches and graveyards on the date.
Garbage cans, rubbish and other inflammable material should be moved away from buildings, and combustible vegetation should also be removed. Firefighting equipment and alarms should be tested, and doors and windows locked.
The KA also advises that floodlighting be turned on at night, and asked that local police and fire departments be contacted to draft local precautionary measures.

Norwegian satanists burned down several churches in the 90's. I guess this is why they prepare.

Posted by: Blackbetty Jun 2 2006, 05:48 AM

Hi BE!...never mind about hell=666 read the joke I just posted on the Aussie thread....visit down under and find out what HOT is LOL!!

Peace bb waving.gif

Posted by: Wahya Jun 2 2006, 02:02 PM
QUOTE (Blue Eyed @ Jun 2 2006, 05:30 AM)
QUOTE (Wahya @ May 30 2006, 04:48 AM)
Yeah that's my Thor.

lsnt he a sweetheart?


He's just as friendly as he looks too.



I want to let my fingers run through his soft thick fur winkNEW.gif
Hopefully he wouldn't bite!




More news from my corner of the world:

QUOTE
Security tight for "Satanist" date
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1336139.ece
All across Norway precautions are being mounted to prevent churches being torched on June 6, 2006 - 06.06.06.
The Church Employer and Interest Organization (KA) have decided upon a safety first approach, and warned all responsible for Norwegian churches to be on guard on the day.
"We do not wish to contribute to increased attention on this matter, but to signal a potential risk," KA division leader Øystein Dahle told newspaper Vårt Land.
Dahle said he would have preferred to ignore the date, but must recognize that certain circles are fascinated by the date, and the association with the number 666 linked to the devil. The KA has asked for vigilance around churches and graveyards on the date.
Garbage cans, rubbish and other inflammable material should be moved away from buildings, and combustible vegetation should also be removed. Firefighting equipment and alarms should be tested, and doors and windows locked.
The KA also advises that floodlighting be turned on at night, and asked that local police and fire departments be contacted to draft local precautionary measures.

Norwegian satanists burned down several churches in the 90's. I guess this is why they prepare.

Thor has never bitten anyone. He's a big teddy bear. hugs.gif









BTW...

6-6-06 is my birthday DragonWalkEmoticon3.gif


Seriously.

Posted by: Blue Eyed Jun 7 2006, 03:08 AM


well, nothing happened on 06-06-06 rolleyesNEW.gif


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Norway dumps Wal-Mart stock
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/business/article1341741.ece

Norwegian Finance Minister Kristin Halvorsen revealed Tuesday that two new stocks will be banned from the country's so-called "oil fund," which now is called the Norwegian Government Pension Fund - Global and currently is worth about USD 250 billion. It ranks as one of the biggest pension funds in the world.

The ministry reported that it's excluding Wal-Mart Stores Inc, Wal-Mart de Mexico and Freeport McMoRan Copper and Gold Inc from the fund "in line with recommendations from the Council on Ethics for the Fund."

Halvorsen's finance ministry officials cited "serious" and "systematic violations of human rights and labour rights" as its reason for pulling out of its Wal-Mart investments.

Another decision to dump shares in Freeport McMoRan was based on "serious environmental damage" incurred by the company.

Halvorsen was quoted in a government statement as saying that the exclusions "reflect our refusal to contribute to serious, systematic or gross violations of ethical norms in these areas through our investments in the Government Pension Fund - Global."
Investing in either Wal-Mart or Freeport, Halvorsen claimed, "entails an unacceptable risk that the Fund may be complicit in serious... violations of norms."

Wal-Mart's offenses
US-based Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer with revenues of nearly USD 300 billion, has been harshly criticized for its labour practices. Norway's Council on Ethics claimed that an "extensive body of material indicates that Wal-Mart consistently and systematically employs minors in contravention of international rules, that working conditions at many of its suppliers are dangerous or health-hazardous, that workers are pressured into working overtime without compensations, that the company systematically discriminates against women in pay," and that attempts to organize workers into unions are stopped.

The council's assessments involve Wal-Mart's business operations in the US and Canada and at its suppliers in Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, Lesotho, Kenya, Uganda, Namibia, Malawi, Madagascar, Swaziland, Bangladesh, China and Indonesia.

The council and Norway's central bank wrote to Wal-Mart last fall, asking them to comment on the allegations of violations of human rights. The Norwegian Finance Ministry said Wal-Mart never responded.

Freeport's pollution
The Finance Ministry said that Freeport, which operates one of the world's largest copper mines on the island of New Guinea in Indonesia, is using a natural river system to dispose of 230,000 tons of tailings a day. This, claims the ministry, inflicts "extensive and serious damage on the environment" because the disposal releases large quantities... copper, cadmium and mercury into the watercourse."

The Council on Ethics found the environmental damage cause by Freeport's mining operations to be "extensive, long-term and irreversible," with "considerable negative consequences for the indigenous peoples residing in the area."

Freeport, Halvorsen's staff claimed, "gives no indication of intending to alter the way the company manages waste in the future, or initiating mearues that will significantly reduce the damage to the environment," even though Freeport's management "has long been aware of the environmental damage caused by the company's practices."

Norway's central bank (Norges Bank) also asked Freeport to comment on the Council's assessments last December. Freeport responded on January 20. "While Freeport refutes the allegations levelled at the company, it chooses not to provide evidence in support of its position," stated the Finance Ministry.

Continuing to invest in Freeport, Halvorsen said, would leave Norway's pension fund with an "unacceptable risk of contributing to severe environmental damage."

Norway's disinvestment procedures gives Norges Bank two months to disinvest from a company before a decision on exclusion is made public. It sold off about NOK 2.5 billion worth of Wal-Mart stock and NOK 116 million worth of Freeport stock by the end of May.


That woman rules!!!

Posted by: uggliozzi Jun 7 2006, 02:14 PM
Onya Kristin Halvorsen! A step in the right direction. If only more people had the backbone to reject immoral companies.

I recommend to all PuPP's People to stay aware and not to buy products that are from employers who abuse, exploit or pollute. A couple of sport shoe manufacturers spring quickly to mind along with a whole nation east of China - you know the one which lies to the world about killing whales.

Posted by: Wahya Jun 7 2006, 03:01 PM
QUOTE (uggliozzi @ Jun 7 2006, 02:14 PM)


I recommend to all PuPP's People to stay aware and not to buy products that are from employers who abuse, exploit or pollute.

How many of these can you name ? Employers who dont abuse, exploit, or pollute?

Posted by: uggliozzi Jun 7 2006, 06:58 PM
Good Point Wahya.

Perhaps I should say to boycott those who attract attention as being immoral.

or

Give precedence to those who, in your own experience, are OK.



Posted by: Wahya Jun 11 2006, 11:40 AM
lt's hard to think of isnt it?


By their very nature, the big corps of today are just that - abusers, exploiters, and polluters.


IMO... buy locally from small businesses when you can.

Support your local farmer's market. Buy from local craftsmen.

lt's easier for me because we live in rural ohio. There's amish and mennonites out here, as well as plain ol' country folks who sell surplus goods from their own small farms.

Posted by: Mark Jun 11 2006, 02:13 PM
Here's some Norway news.gif


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Record meteorite hit Norway
Aftenposten's Norwegian reporter
Nina Lødemel
Aftenposten English Web Desk
Jonathan Tisdall
Saturday June 10 2006
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As Wednesday morning dawned, northern Norway was hit with an impact comparable to the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima.
Peter Bruvold witnessed the meteorite streaking across the night sky.
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PHOTO: PETER BRUVOLD

The map shows the meteorite's direction of fall (the arrow) and the possible impact area over Troms and Finnmark counties.
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At around 2:05 a.m. on Wednesday, residents of the northern part of Troms and the western areas of Finnmark could clearly see a ball of fire taking several seconds to travel across the sky.

A few minutes later an impact could be heard and geophysics and seismology research foundation NORSAR registered a powerful sound and seismic disturbances at 02:13.25 a.m. at their station in Karasjok.

Farmer Peter Bruvold was out on his farm in Lyngseidet with a camera because his mare Virika was about to foal for the first time.

"I saw a brilliant flash of light in the sky, and this became a light with a tail of smoke," Bruvold told Aftenposten.no. He photographed the object and then continued to tend to his animals when he heard an enormous crash.

"I heard the bang seven minutes later. It sounded like when you set off a solid charge of dynamite a kilometer (0.62 miles) away," Bruvold said.

Astronomers were excited by the news.

"There were ground tremors, a house shook and a curtain was blown into the house," Norway's best known astronomer Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard told Aftenposten.no.

Røed Ødegaard said the meteorite was visible to an area of several hundred kilometers despite the brightness of the midnight sunlit summer sky. The meteorite hit a mountainside in Reisadalen in North Troms.

"This is simply exceptional. I cannot imagine that we have had such a powerful meteorite impact in Norway in modern times. If the meteorite was as large as it seems to have been, we can compare it to the Hiroshima bomb. Of course the meteorite is not radioactive, but in explosive force we may be able to compare it to the (atomic) bomb," Røed Ødegaard said.

The astronomer believes the meteorite was a giant rock and probably the largest known to have struck Norway.

"The record was the Alta meteorite that landed in 1904. That one was 90 kilos (198 lbs) but we think the meteorite that landed Wednesday was considerably larger," Røed Ødegaard said, and urged members of the public who saw the object or may have found remnants to contact the Institute of Astrophysics.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1346411.ece

Posted by: Blue Eyed Jun 15 2006, 05:34 AM
QUOTE (PuPP @ Jun 11 2006, 11:13 PM)
Here's some Norway news.gif


QUOTE
Record meteorite hit Norway
Aftenposten's Norwegian reporter
Nina Lødemel
Aftenposten English Web Desk
Jonathan Tisdall
Saturday June 10 2006
QUOTE
As Wednesday morning dawned, northern Norway was hit with an impact comparable to the atomic bomb used on Hiroshima.
Peter Bruvold witnessed the meteorite streaking across the night sky.
user posted image
PHOTO: PETER BRUVOLD

The map shows the meteorite's direction of fall (the arrow) and the possible impact area over Troms and Finnmark counties.
user posted image

At around 2:05 a.m. on Wednesday, residents of the northern part of Troms and the western areas of Finnmark could clearly see a ball of fire taking several seconds to travel across the sky.

A few minutes later an impact could be heard and geophysics and seismology research foundation NORSAR registered a powerful sound and seismic disturbances at 02:13.25 a.m. at their station in Karasjok.

Farmer Peter Bruvold was out on his farm in Lyngseidet with a camera because his mare Virika was about to foal for the first time.

"I saw a brilliant flash of light in the sky, and this became a light with a tail of smoke," Bruvold told Aftenposten.no. He photographed the object and then continued to tend to his animals when he heard an enormous crash.

"I heard the bang seven minutes later. It sounded like when you set off a solid charge of dynamite a kilometer (0.62 miles) away," Bruvold said.

Astronomers were excited by the news.

"There were ground tremors, a house shook and a curtain was blown into the house," Norway's best known astronomer Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard told Aftenposten.no.

Røed Ødegaard said the meteorite was visible to an area of several hundred kilometers despite the brightness of the midnight sunlit summer sky. The meteorite hit a mountainside in Reisadalen in North Troms.

"This is simply exceptional. I cannot imagine that we have had such a powerful meteorite impact in Norway in modern times. If the meteorite was as large as it seems to have been, we can compare it to the Hiroshima bomb. Of course the meteorite is not radioactive, but in explosive force we may be able to compare it to the (atomic) bomb," Røed Ødegaard said.

The astronomer believes the meteorite was a giant rock and probably the largest known to have struck Norway.

"The record was the Alta meteorite that landed in 1904. That one was 90 kilos (198 lbs) but we think the meteorite that landed Wednesday was considerably larger," Røed Ødegaard said, and urged members of the public who saw the object or may have found remnants to contact the Institute of Astrophysics.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1346411.ece



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I was out of the country and didn't get the news until this week!!
It landed not too far from where my sister lives... she didn't hear a damn thing but some of her neighbours woke up though. It wasn't as big as the first breaking news said, it was extremely exaggerated!! Haha... but it made the headlines all over the world didn't it!!!

Here's one of the possible impact points of fragments from the meteorite:

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Edit to add:
The meteor landed up in North of Norway.
I'm living in South of Norway so no one did see it down here anyway.... eyeball.gif eyeball.gif

Posted by: uggliozzi Jun 15 2006, 02:08 PM
Blue Eyed, pity you are so far away. Jewellery made from genuine meteorite fragments might be a good seller.

I know that if a piece of meteorite came up on ebay, I'd make my bids. Imagine holding a rock from space. Like holding a Neanderthal skull.........soooo precious.
(I've never done either - poorer for the non-experience.)

Posted by: Blue Eyed Jun 19 2006, 09:48 AM
I agree uggliozzi!! But I guess they sell them for scientific researches only...
I'd loved a necklace of meteor-stone pearls! redbowsmiley.gif



Latest news of the day:

Update on "Norwegian Doomsday vault"
http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6095&hl=

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Norway to begin work on Arctic vault for seeds in case of global disaster
http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/06/19/norway_to_begin_work_on_arctic_vault_for_seeds_in_case_of_global_disaster/

It sounds like something from a science-fiction film -- a doomsday vault carved into a frozen mountainside on a secluded Arctic island ready to serve as a Noah's Ark for seeds in case of a global catastrophe.

But Norway's ambitious project is on its way to becoming reality today when construction begins on the Svalbard Global Seed Vault, designed to house as many as 3 million of the world's crop seeds.

Prime ministers of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, and Iceland were to attend the cornerstone ceremony this morning near the town of Longyearbyen in Norway's Svalbard Islands, roughly 620 miles from the North Pole.

Terje Riis-Johansen, Norway's agriculture minister, has called the vault a "Noah's Ark on Svalbard."

Its purpose is to ensure the survival of crop diversity in the event of plant epidemics, nuclear war, natural disasters, or climate change, and to offer the world a chance to restart growth of food crops that may have been wiped out. The seeds, packaged in foil, would be stored at such cold temperatures that they could last hundreds, even thousands, of years, according to the independent Global Crop Diversity Trust. The trust, founded in 2004, has also worked on the project and will help run the vault, which is scheduled to open and start accepting seeds from around the world in September 2007.

Oil-rich Norway first proposed the idea a year ago, drawing wide international interest, Riis-Johansen said. The Svalbard Archipelago, 300 miles north of the mainland, was selected because it is located far from many threats and has a consistently cold climate.

Those factors will help protect the seeds and safeguard their genetic makeup, Norway's Foreign Ministry said. The vault will have thick concrete walls, and even if all cooling systems fail, the temperature in the frozen mountain will never rise above freezing due to permafrost, it said.

While the facility will be fenced in and guarded, Svalbard's free-roaming polar bears, known for their ferocity, could also act as natural guardians, according to the Global Diversity Trust.

The Nordic nation is footing the bill, amounting to about $4.8 million for infrastructure costs.

"This facility will provide a practical means to reestablish crops obliterated by major disasters," said Cary Fowler, the trust's executive secretary.

Already, about 1,400 seed banks around the world hold samples of their host country's crops. But these banks are vulnerable to shutdowns, natural disasters, war, and lack of funds, said Riis-Johansen.



Read more on the vault here from the webpage of the Global Crop Diversity Trust
http://www.croptrust.org

QUOTE
Storing duplicate seeds in the Svalbard vault is meant to offer a fail-safe system for the planet.
http://www.croptrust.org/documents/Svalbard%20Release%20FINAL.pdf

EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE UNTIL 13:15 HOURS CEST (Central European Summer Time)/ 11:15 HOURS GMT ON MONDAY 19 JUNE 2006
EDITOR’S NOTE: Report, schematic drawings and photographs available upon request.

Scientists to Employ Arctic Ice and Polar Bears
To Protect Diversity of World’s Crops
Global Effort to Conserve Threatened Crop Diversity Underscores Growing Threats to Food Security from Plant Diseases, Climate Change

SVALBARD, NORWAY (19 June 2006)—On an island near the North Pole, heads of State from five Nordic countries and the Global Crop Diversity Trust laid the cornerstone today for a “fail-safe” seed vault to be carved into an Arctic mountain. The vault will ensure the long-term survival of the world’s vital food crops. As polar bears prowled the island, the head of the Trust called the repository a major hedge against catastrophe—part of a broad global strategy to protect the world’s food supply through conserving critical seed collections around the world, from the tropics to the highest latitudes.

“This facility will provide a practical means to reestablish crops obliterated by major disasters,” said Cary Fowler, the Trust’s Executive Secretary and lead author of the just- released Feasibility Study for the Arctic seed vault. “But crop diversity is imperiled not just by a cataclysmic event, such as a nuclear war, but also by natural disasters, accidents, mismanagement, and short-sighted budget cuts.”
The Norwegian government and the Global Crop Diversity Trust spearheaded the effort to establish a seed repository of last-resort in the Arctic ice; carved into permafrost and rock, it will eventually house the seeds of every nation.
The Trust, an international, non-profit organization works to support the world’s most critical crop collections, now scattered among some 1,400 gene banks on every continent (save Antarctica). While their status varies greatly, many are in dire straits, threatening the survival of some of the world’s unique crop varieties. Yet agriculture worldwide relies on these collections of crop species and their wild relatives. They are vital to the development of new varieties, without which agriculture would grind to a halt.
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Today’s ceremony, featuring the Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg and Dr. Fowler, marked the initiation of the vault’s construction with a stone-laying event. In a significant expression of support, the Prime Ministers of the other four Nordic nations—Finnish Prime Minister of Matti Vanhanen, Swedish Prime Minister Göran Persson, Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen, and the Prime Minister of Iceland—convened for the event.
Crops Coming into the Cold: Anatomy of the Seed Vault
The “doomsday vault” or Svalbard International Seed Vault (SISV) will have a capacity of three million seed samples. It will ultimately house replicates of every known crop variety, as well as have ample capacity to accommodate new variation as it arises naturally. Enveloped by permafrost and rock, the samples will remain frozen even if electricity fails. Samples held in “black boxes” will only be released in the event that all other seed sources have been destroyed or exhausted.
The Feasibility Study for the doomsday vault thoroughly examined the pros and cons of such a facility in this remote Arctic site. The study concluded that under proper conditions, seeds for most major food crops could remain viable for hundreds of years, while others, including key grains, could survive for thousands of years.
A meter of reinforced concrete will fortify the chamber walls. Arctic permafrost will act as a natural coolant to protect the samples—which will be stored in watertight foil packages—should a power failure disable refrigeration systems. Despite changes being wrought by global warming, experts believe the deep permafrost will be reliably cool for at least the next 100 years. Even with a complete loss of refrigeration, vault temperatures would never rise above -3.5 Celsius or about 27 degrees Fahrenheit.
In addition to a strong security door and perimeter fence, the facility’s remote location will enhance its security, as will the incredibly cold winters, ice flows, and the presence of Norwegian authorities. Facility planners also cite the ubiquitous presence of polar bears, not known for their hospitality toward humans, as a security measure.
The seeds placed in the facility will be replicates of those already available in existing gene banks. The vault will cost approximately US$3 million, which will be provided by the Norwegian government. The Trust is committed to supporting ongoing operational costs, and will be available to assist developing countries with preparing, packaging, and transporting their representative seeds to the Arctic.
Conserving Diversity Crop by Crop
In addition to supporting the Arctic seed vault, the Trust is developing conservation strategies for every major crop and every world region. These will include both seed crops and crops such as potatoes that can only be conserved with cuttings, and therefore cannot be banked in the Arctic vault. Just two years old, the Trust has begun funding critical yet imperiled collections of major food crops, including potato, wheat and apple. Investing relatively modest sums, the Trust is fending off serious threats to food security.
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Wheat: The salvage effort comes at a critical time. A new kind of airborne wheat fungus or “rust” that can reduce yields by 55 percent emerged in Uganda in 1999, spread to Kenya and Ethiopia by 2003, and is now moving out of Africa and into South Asia. Dubbed Ug99, the rust was recently reported in coastal Pakistan and could threaten India’s 21.6 million ton wheat harvest. Scientists need full access to wheat genetic diversity to develop immune varieties.
One critical collection of wheat is found in the gene banks of Russia’s N.I. Vavilov Institute, where the Trust is funding the regeneration of threatened seed collections. These include wheats that originated in Central Asia and the Caucuses, on the fringes of the crop’s center of domestication. Some of these rare wheat samples will be “repatriated” to gene banks in their countries of origin. The price tag for this vital program is US$70,000 a year for three years.
Potato: The same potato blight that in the 19th century caused more than a million deaths in Ireland has shown up in Alaska three times in the last ten years, and has also been seen recently in large areas of Bangladesh, where it was blamed for a 50 percent drop in yields.
Ireland’s tragedy unfolded because its farmers cultivated only a handful of potato varieties. But crop gene banks in South America safeguard diverse collections of wild and cultivated samples could be vital to developing blight-resistant varieties. At least one of these gene banks came close to losing its entire potato collection following a break-down in its refrigeration system. The Trust has now funded the essential repairs, saving the potato collection, as well as collections of corn, barley, and wheat. The price tag: less than $25,000.
Apple: The most widely cultivated of all the fruit trees, the apple faces a growing variety of pests. The virus-like apple proliferation phytoplasma recently re-emerged in Germany, and is one of the most economically important threats to apple trees in central and southern Europe. In addition, many beloved apple varieties are susceptible to fire blight, which has become increasingly resistant to the two major antibiotic pesticides used to protect the trees. The disease reappeared in Italy in 2005 after six years of absence.
Yet the diverse genetic apple resources needed to cultivate resistant apple trees are rapidly disappearing, even in Central Asian where the apple was first cultivated. Kazakhstan’s Talgar Pomological Gardens and Turkmenistan’s Garrygalla Research Center hold irreplaceable collections of apple varieties, which include wild species—possibly the most ancient existing ancestors of the apples eaten today. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the two institutions had been struggling to survive, and outside plant breeders have had limited access to their genetic resources. Now, a Trust investment of $38,000 a year for the next three years will help secure the apple for future generations.
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Climate change adds to the challenges facing the world’s farmers—and to their reliance on crop genetic diversity. A recent report from the United Kingdom’s Foresight Program identifies 10 major food crops grown in Sub-Saharan Africa that are likely to be affected by climate change in arid and semi-arid environments. Even now, plant breeders are trying to develop more drought-resistant varieties of several of these crops. Temperate-region crops are also at risk. For example, many plant rusts thrive under conditions of high moisture and rainfall. This includes a new form of soybean rust, which first reached the United States in 2004 from Latin America. Scientists now project that record-warm temperatures last winter contributed to the increased findings of Asian soybean rust in four states in the early part of 2006. The rust can rapidly destroy 80 percent of a crop.
“We need viable collections of crops like wheat, potato, and apple in areas where they originated and are still grown today,” Fowler said. “The Arctic vault and other collections around the world will make sure that the resources will be there when and where they are needed. Without them, there will be a time when nothing will stand between humanity and mass starvation.”
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The Global Crop Diversity Trust
The mission of the Global Crop Diversity Trust is to ensure the conservation and availability of crop diversity for food security worldwide. Although crop diversity is fundamental to fighting hunger and to the very future of agriculture, funding is unreliable and diversity is being lost. An independent international organization, established through a partnership between the CGIAR and FAO, the Trust is the only organization working worldwide to solve this problem.
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Edit to add:

A "fail-safe system for the planet" they say.... the Svalbard-region will be like an impregnable fortress if the cyclical warming we experience now shifts to a new cyclical cooling.... http://imageshack.us

Posted by: Blue Eyed Oct 24 2006, 03:20 AM



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We don't get any strait answers from the Russians if they actually have put'em up there intentionally... or if someone did this as a joke...
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Mysterious warnings pop up along Russian border
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1486358.ece

Norway's border with Russia at the far northern tip of the country has been relatively peaceful, but suddenly some mysterious signs have appeared on the Russian side, warning that the area contains land mines.
"We don't understand this," Åse Dons Lindrupsen of the local border commission in Kirkenes told newspaper Aftenposten. The mines, she said, "have never been mentioned in any of the roughly 60 meetings we have every year with the Russian border patrol."
Nor was there any mention of mines when an expansion of the border zone was taken up with the border patrol chief Aleksandr Belokon on August 30, Lindtupsen said.
Yet just two months after Russia expanded its "special border zone" to 25 kilometers, some little red signs have been placed on the Russian side of the border fence. Their message is indisputable: "Mines."
Russian officials have told their Norwegian counterparts that some unexploded mines may still lie in the area from the battles fought in 1944, when German troops were forced out of the Kola Peninsula and eastern Finnmark.
But the signs are new. The Russian Embassy in Oslo said it couldn't comment on them. The Norwegian consulate in Murmansk said it has no information that the Russian border to Norway has been rigged with mines.
The Russian border chief Belokon has earlier said the border zone was expanded in an effort to fight terrorism, border crimes and illegal immigration.
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The little signs almost appear homemade, but they carry an ominous message.


Posted by: Blue Eyed Nov 30 2006, 12:51 AM

Heia

Just posted in the earthchange-section about the strange weather up here.
In fact my Primula's/Primroses and Daisies are still flowering...

Several ski resorts in the mountains opened for the season a few weeks ago, but even there, the weather has simply been too warm for good skiing conditions. sadoriginal.gif

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Summer in November
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1550842.ece
Norway is having its warmest autumn ever, with the past three months seen
as a block setting a record high.



let it snow let it snow let it snow... so the children can have some fun.
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Posted by: Mark Nov 30 2006, 12:59 AM
Hi Blue Eyed, we've had an arctic chill roll in and I finally had to fire up the gas wall heater.

Brrrr....chillllllll

Posted by: Blue Eyed Nov 30 2006, 01:01 AM

More news from my country:

Nowegians still aren't embracing the thought of EU membership jam.gif

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Fewer want to join EU - More Norwegians are saying "no" when asked whether they think their country should join the European Union.
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1547557.ece

There's no referendum in sight on the issue of EU membership, and politicians aren't taking it up. Nonetheless, public opinion polls are routinely conducted to check the pulse of the people, who have narrowly rejected EU membership twice before.

The latest poll, taken by research firm Norstat for Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK), showed 48.3 percent of those questioned saying they don't want Norway to join the EU. Another 41.3 percent was in favour of EU membership.

The "no" side was up 2.9 percentage points. NRK reported that a likely reason was recent outcry over an EU directive on services, which some Norwegians feel will lead to social dumping since it would allow a free flow of services over European borders.

A rejection of the directive by Norway would likely endanger its entire economic cooperation agreement with the EU through the European Economic Area (EEA), of which Norway is a member. Norway's cooperation in the EEA gives it most of the same advantages and obligations of EU nations, even though Norway isn't an EU member.

In practice, that means that EU regulations generally are observed by Norway as well.



In fact our new license plates made some people see red....

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Anti-EU folks won't accept new license plates
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1549390.ece

Some Norwegians' opposition to the EU knows no limits. The most determined among them are now refusing to use Norway's new license plates, saying the plates' design too closely resembles EU plates.
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The new license plates were introduced in early November, and it didn't take long for some anti-EU folks to reject them.

"Already on the very first day we had a customer who refused to drive with the flag on the license plate," said Olav Aalbu of the state traffic station i Trondheim. "He was a hard-core EU opponent who viewed the new plates...as an EU decree."

Others have claimed the plates' new flag and "N" for Norway, set on a blue background on the plates' left side, makes them look like the license plates on cars registered in EU countries. They also have a blue field, with the country's identifying initial circled in the EU's ring of yellow stars.

Norway, which is not a member of the EU, doesn't use the EU ring, but that's no consolation for the opponents.

Those motorists who won't accept the new plates are being offered white stickers that they can paste over the entire blue area. If they drive their cars out of Norway, though, they'll have to display an "N" for Norway in some other visible way



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Posted by: Blue Eyed Nov 30 2006, 01:10 AM
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Hi Blue Eyed, we've had an arctic chill roll in and I finally had to fire up the gas wall heater.

Brrrr....chillllllll



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We haven't fired up all the electric ovens/heathers yet here... moneyflip.gif that's good because the prices of electricity have been really expensive this autumn because of little rain in the summer.

Now it's been raining a lot for 5-6 weeks so prices are down.

Posted by: Blue Eyed Dec 1 2006, 04:56 AM
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Norway's next energy boom
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1553378.ece

With Norway's petroleum era beginning to wind down, attention is being turned to the potential of thorium as the next power adventure for the country.
The European research center for particle physics, CERN, has been working on the details of building a nuclear power plant based on the element thorium for years, and believes the theoretical problems are solved.

"What is needed now is political will and, not least, money," said Professor Jon Petter Omtvedt at the Institute for Nuclear Chemistry at the University of Oslo. "A prototype thorium power plant must be built before they can be built on a commercial basis. The day that thorium based power plants can be built on a commercial basis will revolutionize the world's power supply. Norway, one of the world's leading energy nations, should take on this task," Omtvedt said.

Thorium is more abundant than uranium, produces less waste and cannot melt down.


Pressing arguments
Omtvedt said that CERN research concludes that such a plant is possible, all that remains is to actually build the prototype. There are two powerful arguments for Norway taking the next step; Norway has the financial resources and is an energy nation that should be looking to find a safe and CO2-free new source.

Omtvedt sees a need to import scientists since Norway has neglected the development of domestic nuclear physicists in recent years, and with greenhouse gas emissions a growing problem, he wants the project started quickly.

It will work
Professor Egil Lillestøl at the University of Bergen has links to CERN, and is another proponent of thorium. Lillestøl told Aftenposten that Norway should exploit its position as a non-European Union member, arguing that the EU leans too heavily towards developing existing uranium-based reactors and so are not interested in novel, competing technology.

Lillestøl wants Norway's parliament to guarantee a prototype project, with a goal of a prototype being built in about ten years, after a study period of two to three years. Lillestøl envisages a prototype ready around the year 2020, with a cost of about NOK 5 billion (USD 805 million).

"There is no doubt that this will work. What we don't know exactly before we build the prototype is how much energy it will produce. We might get ten percent less than we expect from the beginning," Lillestøl said.

Counter-arguments
Environmental group Bellona remains a prominent skeptic to thorium-based energy in Norway. Nuclear physicist and Bellona member Nils Bøhmer believes that CERN researchers still have some issues to solve, primarily the question of corrosion problems that will occur when lead, which is a part of the process, is heated to 700C.

The problem of disposal of thorium waste is another thorny point, and the use of uranium-233, part of the production process in a thorium reactor, which can be used in nuclear weapon production is another troubling aspect according to Bøhmer.

"So to solve the problem with carbon dioxide emissions the world should instead bank on renewable energy sources alongside CO2 storage in connection with the production of fossil fuels," Bøhmer said.

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Lillestøl told Aftenposten that Norway should exploit its position as a non-European Union member, arguing that the EU leans too heavily towards developing existing uranium-based reactors and so are not interested in novel, competing technology


How far will EU go to try to stop Norway from building this prototype?
That's an interesting question!

Posted by: Blue Eyed Dec 8 2006, 03:47 AM


Hei! I saw Washington Post has picked up on our “dear” Mullah Krekar (Najumuddin Faraj Ahmad )… a terrorist protected by the Norwegian Government. Also Actually he’s protected by both right-winged and left-winged politicians! The majority of the Norwegian people want him OUT of the country. He has made the headlines more than once in the news in Norway – talking about the greatness of Bin-Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi among other things. He’s the founder of Ansar al-Islam, and has 'secretly'visited the region close to the Iranian border - at the same time as he claims that it's to dangerous for him to return!

Why the Norwegians don’t want him here? One important thing is that it makes other terrorists think that this is a great country to hide in! Just look of some of the headlines from the news:

14 12 2005
Terror suspects were headed to Oslo
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1179272.ece
Two of the three Algerians arrested on terrorism charges in Italy in November were headed back to Norway, according to the chief investigator.
"We believe that the three Algerians see Norway as a calm and safe place to stay," chief Naples court

17 11 2005
More hidden terrorists in Norway
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1158783.ece
The Algerians arrested in Italy are not the only potential terrorists in Norway, security forces said Thursday.
"We know that there are persons in Norway today that can be linked to the terrorist network abroad," Martin Bernsen, information adviser at the Norwegian Police Security Service (PST) told Aftenposten.no.
The PST will not disclose how many persons they are referring to, or how many different nationalities are involved.



Here's part of the article from Washinton post:

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The CIA and The Militant Who Eluded It in Norway
OSLO -- Two months after he helped kidnap a Muslim cleric in Italy, records show, an undercover CIA officer boarded a flight to Norway on another secret mission. Two other U.S. spies followed a few weeks later and checked into the same hotel.
Shortly after the agents arrived in the spring of 2003, an Islamic militant living in Oslo known as Mullah Krekar received a warning from an anonymous Norwegian official, according to Krekar's lawyer. The message: Krekar, then head of a Kurdish insurgent group, was a CIA target and should watch his back.

The spies left Norway by the end of the summer, according to records of their travels compiled by European investigators. If the CIA was planning to abduct Krekar, like other Islamic radicals it had secretly apprehended in Europe after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, those plans were quietly abandoned.


But it would not be the first or last time that the U.S. government had sought to push Krekar out of Norway. For more than a decade, the Kurdish cleric had enjoyed protection in the Nordic country as a political refugee, even as he frequently slipped back into his homeland in northern Iraq to lead an armed separatist movement called Ansar al-Islam, which has carried out attacks on civilians and U.S. troops.

The case shows how the United States has struggled to deal with Islamic militants who are allowed to live freely in Europe despite being labeled serious security risks. Others have included radical clerics in London and supporters of the Hamburg cell responsible for the Sept. 11 hijackings.

But the pursuit of Krekar also demonstrates how U.S. tactics in confronting those militants have sometimes backfired, giving ammunition to critics who accuse the Bush administration of skirting the law or relying on questionable evidence.
Before the invasion of Iraq, the U.S. government publicly portrayed Krekar and his network as an organizational link between al-Qaeda and the government of Saddam Hussein. Under pressure to prove that connection, the United States tried a variety of tactics to forcibly remove Krekar from Norway and hand him over to friendly security services in the Middle East.
Each attempt failed. Today, although the Norwegian government has declared Krekar a security threat and ordered him deported, the mullah is still in Oslo.

Most evidence against him remains classified. But other charges have been refuted in court or publicly discredited, including allegations by U.S. and Iraqi officials that Krekar ordered followers to carry out suicide bombings and that Ansar controlled a chemical weapons factory.
"At first, I didn't think I had done anything that was a threat to the Americans," Krekar said in an interview. "Later, some people told me I had become a target, but I didn't think the Americans would come for me themselves. They wanted to use me, to show that there was a link between Saddam and al-Qaeda."
The intense U.S. interest in Krekar came at a time when the CIA was targeting other Islamic radicals in Europe for "extraordinary rendition," the clandestine practice of seizing terrorism suspects and transferring them to allied nations that sometimes practice torture. Among suspects grabbed by the CIA: a Muslim cleric in Milan, two Arabs living in Stockholm and two others from Germany.

The CIA and the U.S. Embassy in Norway declined to comment on whether Krekar was a rendition target. In a prepared statement for this article, State Department deputy spokesman Tom Casey said, "The United States continues to consider Krekar to be a threat to national security, and we think the same with respect to Ansar al-Islam."

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Krekar hasn't always been an enemy of the United States. He fled northern Iraq in 1990 and received asylum in Norway after claiming he had been persecuted by Saddam Hussein's security services.

After the Persian Gulf War of 1991, he returned for long visits to his Kurdish homeland, which was under the protection of U.S. warplanes maintaining a "no-fly" zone. In early 2001, he said, he and other Kurdish leaders met with three CIA officers to discuss how to overthrow Hussein.
Later that year, Krekar founded Ansar al-Islam, or Followers of Islam. The network carved out a small territory near the Iranian border and engaged in skirmishes with other Kurdish factions. U.S. counterterrorism officials suspected that Ansar sheltered al-Qaeda fugitives who had fled Afghanistan after the U.S. invasion there in 2001.
In September 2002, after crossing the mountainous border with Iran, Krekar was detained by Iranian authorities and put on a flight to Amsterdam. Upon landing, he was arrested again, this time by Dutch authorities, who said he was wanted for extradition to Jordan on drug charges.
Krekar said that the allegations were trumped up and that he had never been to Jordan. His attorneys said U.S. officials had orchestrated the detention.
Dutch officials confirmed U.S. involvement in the case but didn't elaborate. "You can assume the Americans have an interest," Dutch Justice Ministry spokesman Martin Bruinsma told reporters.

more at the link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/03/AR2006120301088.html

Posted by: Blue Eyed Dec 8 2006, 04:01 AM

Some more articles about Krekar:

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22 06 2006
Krekar honors al-Zarqawi
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1362852.ece
Mullah Krekar has praised both Osama bin Laden and the recently killed Iraqi al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in an interview with a Kurdish newspaper.

13 03 2006
Krekar claims Islam will win
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1247400.ece
Norway's most controversial refugee, Mullah Krekar, told an Oslo newspaper on Monday that there's a war going on between "the West" and Islam. He said he's sure that Islam will win, and he also had praise for suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden.

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Krekar threatens Norway
Norway's most controversial refugee has lodged a threat against the country that has hosted him and his family for the past 14 years. Mullah Krekar calls his possible deportation "an offense" that shouldn't go unpunished.
Oslo newspaper Aftenposten reported Tuesday that Krekar, in an interview with Arab TV station Al-Jazeera, vowed he will never go along with a deportation order issued by Norwegian authorities. Cabinet Minister Erna Solberg initially ordered him sent out of the country in February 2003, calling Krekar a threat to the country.

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He told Al-Jazeera, therefore, that "everyone must know" that a deportation to Iraq "is an offense that shouldn't be made without punishment."
Krekar wasn't specific, however, about what kind of punishment he thinks Norway should receive if a court upholds Solberg's deportation order.
"I have faith in Allah," Krekar told Al-Jazeera in the text of the interview dated August 31. "I defend my rights in their court just like Western people defend their rights. I am patient like they are patient. But if my patience runs out, I will react like Orientals do."

14 6 2005
Krekar's group tied to slaughter
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1059262.ece
The guerrilla group once headed by Mullah Krekar, who's currently battling a deportation order in an Oslo court, reportedly cut the throats of dozens of prisoners before fleeing US troops in 2003. The chilling report came from a Norwegian official who visited northern Iraq…

08 04 2004
Krekar accused of bin Laden praise
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article927167.ece
German media claim that controversial Norwegian resident mullah Krekar congratulated Osama bin Laden shortly after the terrorist attack on the USA on Sep. 11, 2001.

17 03 2004
Madrid bombing suspects visited Krekar
A French investigator claims to have evidence linking controversial mullah Krekar (picture) to Jamal Zougam, currently jailed on suspicion of being one of the leaders behind the massive train bombings in Madrid, newspaper VG reports.
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Well, some people in Norway don't take this guy too serious though.... smileNew4.gif
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28 04 2004
Immigrant comedienne maddens Mullah
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article783368.ece
Norwegian-Pakistani humorist Shabana Rehman pulled a stunt during a public debate with Mullah Krekar, the controversial former leader of the militant group Ansar al-Islam that left the religious man fuming and threatening a lawsuit. Rehman, a popular stand-up comic who specializes in material based on culture collision, picked the mullah up off the ground, an act he called a gruesome humiliation.
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He was furious and promised a law-suit... (he never did because I think he just wants to forget about this situation)

This is the only picture of it that I've seen of it - she's a very strong woman:
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Posted by: uggliozzi Dec 9 2006, 02:04 PM
This man should not be deported. If he is deported he will continue causing trouble and continue to use the freedoms made available by decent people as a weapon against them. He needs to be neutralised by being stuck in prison and the key thrown away. No visitors except counsel, no letters, no phone calls, no internet = no more crimes.

Posted by: Blue Eyed Dec 11 2006, 01:31 PM


I tend to agree with you Uggliozzi, but unfortunately common sense and politics don't work together too well face.gif



Scandinavia's first astronaut - Christer Fuglesang - is on his way to ISS. He's raised in Sweden with a norwegian father. We are very proud of him! jam.gif
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Prize winner 'deeply honoured'
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/
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Muhammad Yunus, an economics professor who started making tiny loans to impoverished people in Bangladesh 30 years ago, accepted the Nobel Peace Prize for 2006 in Oslo on Sunday, saying it gives "honour and dignity" to millions. He also took the opportunity to criticize the war in Iraq and appeal for creation of more socially minded businesses.




Oh -and children and I have started baking for Christmas:
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Posted by: Wahya Dec 13 2006, 06:05 PM
Thor likes holiday treats thumbsup2.gif

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Posted by: uggliozzi Dec 14 2006, 02:23 PM
How is that Muhammad Yunus? If we only had ten more like him, we could virtually eliminate the degredation of the disadvantaged.

If ever a person needed recognition it is him. Congratulations to the Nobel prize committee for having the presence of mind and the cojones to select him. And isn't he a nice guy? We can all learn from this man.

Posted by: Blue Eyed Dec 22 2006, 11:56 AM
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How is that Muhammad Yunus? If we only had ten more like him, we could virtually eliminate the degredation of the disadvantaged.

If ever a person needed recognition it is him. Congratulations to the Nobel prize committee for having the presence of mind and the cojones to select him. And isn't he a nice guy? We can all learn from this man.



Uggliozzi,

It was a controversial choice even for Norwegians – he’s been suggested before but not winning. Many people ask themselves why a bankier should win a PEACE price?

I do see that social development can stop or prevent wars – but I do also know that corruptions follow the money. And he has created a BIG business.


I've said for many years that Norwegian 3rd world aid is doing NO good for the 3rd world. We are sending money – a lot of money - which to a great deal ends up in the hands of the corrupted government/sadministrations of the countries.

I've said- let's do business with these countries - let us import their products.
Instead we’re experiencing something like an embargo! To protect local (agricultural) business. Especially within the EU. So – in this matter I do see the advantages of people like Yunus to help people getting started doing business…


I think the Norwegian Committee of Peace Prize also loved the idea of his extension of small loans to WOMEN that wants to start business – but are too poor to qualify for traditional bank loans. Maybe an idea of liberation in all of it?
They say women handle money better than men… hehe…

I don’t know what to think about this guy really…

In the end - they say development from below serves to advance democracy and human rights - but what is Democracy but just an other set of rules really?

Posted by: Blue Eyed Dec 22 2006, 12:51 PM


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Hehe… here is a traditional Norwegian Christmas Dinner-menu - just for Thor!
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Little Christmas Eve
Rice porridge with a hidden almond. The lucky one to find it gets a marzipan pig or a big chocolate as reward!

(I’m used to eat LUTEFISK - fish steeped in lye! – as the main dish but I’m the only one in my family eating this speciality so I don't cook it anymore sadoriginal.gif
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Christmas Eve:
salted and dried lamb ribs…. Steam boiled! Mmmmmm
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Dessert : creamy rice porridge with warm blackberries…

Christmas day:
RIB ROAST WITH crispy CRACKLING . mmmmmm ….
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Dessert: ice cream: cloudberry cream

1st Christmas day:
buffet –
cold rib from day before and
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DRINKING:
All of our Christmas food is quite strong - and therefore needs to be "neutralized" with the traditional Norwegian "Aquavit" a very strong liqueur made from potatoes.

An other speciality is "juleøl", the Yuletime beer that is brewed on the farms, and in modern times also by the breweries. The custom of brewing this special beer can be traced back through the centuries to the time when horns filled with beer during the Joulu festivities were dedicated to the Norse gods Odin, Frøy and Njord. But when modern-day Norwegians at Christmas time lift their glasses in the traditional Scandinavian "skål" (Pronounced scawl), they give little or no thought to their viking forefathers who lifted the horns of sacrificial beer to drink for peace and a good year to come.

The juleøl tradition survived the country's conversion to Christianity simply because people refused to give it up. And the rulers wisely chose to give the old tradition new symbolic meaning, rather than abolish it. The beer was no longer to be considered as a sacrificial drink: it was just to be called Holiday beer. And, according to one of the old laws of the land, it should be "blessed on Christmas night, to Christ and the Virgin Mary".
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Posted by: uggliozzi Dec 22 2006, 04:29 PM
Ah yes Blue Eyed,

It seems that among the poverty-stricken everywhere it is the women who work the micro-businesses that lift themselves and their communities.

I ask myself - why? What is wrong with the men? As a western male I have no experience of the issues. I see it here in Australia. When I go to support an indigenous site I see that all the public works such as landscaping and beautification have been done by the ladies. Go into an indigenous adult education classrooom and there are few men - the rest are laying about in the sun.

I think it is all misplaced ego - "I am a hunter - trivial matters are beneath me." Well I think, "Go and bloody-well hunt then. When you can feed your family, then you can lie around in the sun like a lizard." They make me sick.

I have worked for over fourty years at jobs I hated to see my family OK while my wife provided traditional motherhood so that we could raise decent citizens. For some years a night out for us was walking into town and going window shopping. Now we aren't rich but we owe no man and I have retired to my workshop and garden. If anyone thinks I am less of a man because I worked while my wife stayed at home then they are sadly mistaken.


Even though we live in the southern hemisphere where it is hot in December, our Christmas fare will be surprisingly English. Roast chicken, roast lamb and roasted vegetables done in an outdoor barbecue kettle so as not to heat the house up and crusty home-baked bread. Cold smoked mutton with home-made date and tomato chutney or crispy-skin salmon with sweet lemon sauce as the appetiser. Plum pudding with custard (sauce anglaise) or fresh fruits with cream or ice-cream for dessert. As we are not alcohol consumers, we will drink fruit juices and soft-drinks. We will eat outside in the shade of the grape vines until mid-afternoon when the youngest will "play Santa" and hand out the gifts under the tree. Except for the dog's gift - she can unnerringly identify her own gift among all the others and has a ripping good time getting the wrapping off.

On the subject of Christmas lunch - please be careful what you feed to your dog. In Oz there is a condition known to veterinarians as "Boxing Day Syndrome" because it becomes prevalent the day after Christmas Day. Everyone likes to have the dog join in Christmas festivities but this can be excruciating or even fatal for the dog. A large meal for the dog can cause a condition called pancreatitis where the dog's digestive juices start to digest the dog's pancreas. This causes immense pain and the dog can die in agony. Fatty items are the worst culprit. If you want the dog to be part of the feast please select quality rather than quantity. Remember also that chocolate is a dog killer and onions are toxic to the dog's liver.

Posted by: Wahya Dec 22 2006, 09:59 PM
Hey l don't let Thor go hog wild with his treats.


He's on a diet anyway. nono2.gif

Posted by: uggliozzi Dec 24 2006, 03:21 PM
I think that Thor is a very lucky dog to have someone care for him as much as you obviously do - best wishes.

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Posted by: Wahya Dec 25 2006, 10:26 AM
Have a cool Yule scoping.gif

Posted by: Blue Eyed Dec 26 2006, 05:44 AM



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Happy holidays!

Or GOD JUL (yule) as we say in Norway...

Posted by: Blue Eyed Jan 13 2007, 06:54 AM


Anti-Americanism is just growing bigger in Norway as the US-owned Scandic Hotel in Oslo refuses Cubans to stay at their hotel. This has sparked quite some headlines and debates lately in Norway. This because it's violates our rules and business policy.

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No room for Cubans
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1588670.ece

A tourism delegation from Cuba was not allowed to stay at the Scandic Hotel chain's Edderkoppen Hotel in Oslo because the chain is now American.

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The Cuban group, which was in Norway to take party in the Tourism Exhibition in Lillestrøm in mid-January, had used the Edderkoppen Hotel in Oslo during their visits over the previous five years. Just before Christmas the Cubans were told that they would have to find a new hotel this year, newspaper VG reports.

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Raymond Johansen, state secretary at the Foreign Ministry, was surprised to learn about the matter. "This sounds unacceptable. We have diplomatic ties with Cuba, and it does not sound like Norwegian political guidelines have applied," Johansen told VG.



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Outrage after inhospitality
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1588997.ece

The Anti-racist Center, the Equality and Anti-discrimination Ombud (LDO) and the Oslo office of trade union confederation LO have issued strong reactions after a Cuban Tourism delegation were denied rooms at the Scandic Edderkoppen Hotel in Oslo.

"LO Oslo demands that the government take the step of denying business activity to companies like Scandic, which clearly adhere to the USA's illegal boycott and blockade rather than the policy of the Norwegian authorities," LO said in a press release.

At the same time, the Anti-racist Center filed a complaint with the police against the hotel, the managing director for the Hilton hotels and the Scandic chain in Norway. This charge is based on a law prohibiting the denial of services on the grounds of a person's citizenship or other ethnic reasons.

Equality and Anti-discrimination Ombud Beate Gangsås will ask the hotel management at the Scandic Edderkoppen for an explanation.
"We expect the hotel to account for itself. If this is not satisfactory the LDO will make a complaint," said LDO section leader Ann Helen Aarø, and said that their reasoning had to be based on Norwegian conditions.

"There is nothing that guarantees any company with American owner interests to exclude the citizens of a country on the grounds that the USA boycotts that nation. We have to examine the rules that apply to business in Norway," Aarø said.

LO Oslo claims that the Scandic chain, now owned by the American-owned Hilton chain, violates a range of United Nations resolutions condemning the economic blockade of Cuba in addition to violating the guidelines of Norwegian foreign policy.

A similar event occurred in Mexico City last year, when 16 Cubans were thrown out of an American-owned hotel while they were taking part in a meeting with American businessmen. The Cuban government called the episode an example of the American trade boycott infringing on the sovereignty of other nations.



Posted by: Blue Eyed Jan 13 2007, 07:07 AM
As the mild weather and lack of snow continues in South Norway - plans for snow tunnels have been made. As the climate has changed over some years now - we are in a desperate need to find ways to go skiing!

They already have a couple of snow tunnels in Sweden...
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Remember Norwegians are born with skies on their feet!! smileNew4.gif and we are so jealous on the Swedes! winkNEW.gif
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Posted by: Mark Jan 13 2007, 11:35 AM
An arctic chill has come upon much of North America.

BBBBRRRRRRRRR

It's soooo cold here this weekend in So Calif.

:::shivering:::

Hey, we need a shiver emoticon.... lol... and one for scorching heat too.
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Wishing you some fresh snow very soon Blue Eyed so you can go skiing.
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Posted by: Mark Sep 14 2007, 10:16 AM
Hi Blue Eyed, here's a report you probably heard of that I have not seen on my USA tv news. Currently our news media is concentrating on some little girl who's gone missing in the UK.

Factoid: Over 300,000 children are reported missing each year in USA. The news media could show us 500-1000 missing children each day on our zionist controlled tv screens or in our zionist controlled newspapers.... but they don't of course.

In my opinion, my USA news media is a total joke and a tool for the synagogue of satan.

THEY were liars from the beginning, like THEIR father.

Anyways....here's the report...

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British jets again intercept Russian bombers
AFP
14 Sep 2007
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Norwegian and British fighter jets were scrambled to intercept Russian bombers over the north Atlantic, the latest in a series of such incidents, Norway's military command said Friday.

Two Russian Tupolev-160 bombers or "Blackjacks" were detected by the NATO allies flying along the Norwegian coast before passing by northern Scotland, a military spokesman told AFP.

"We dispatched two F-16s from Bodoe airbase (in the north of Norway) to identify them," Lieutenant-Colonel Jon Inge Oegland said, adding that Britain had also sent aircraft.

"It conforms with the declarations of (Russian) president (Vladmir) Putin and we are expecting more such flights in the future.

"It was nothing dramatic but we are of course keeping a close eye on things," Oegland said.

Putin announced the resumption of long-range flights in international air space while he attended military exercises on August 17.

Even in the weeks before his statement, Britain and Norway had to scramble jets to intercept Russian planes near their airspace. Russian bombers had also been making increasingly frequent flights near US territory.

Such flights were standard during the Cold War standoff with the United States and its western European allies, but were abandoned in 1992 amid financial difficulties that followed the Soviet collapse.

Russia's head of strategic aviation General Pavel Androsov has said the aircraft will not carry nuclear weapons and that the main aim of the flights was to improve training for pilots.

But the flights come against a background of increasing tension between Russia and some Western powers. Observers also see it as a sign of renewed Russian self-confidence on the international stage.

Russia has objected strongly to US plans to place anti-missile defence facilities in the Czech Republic and Poland, countries that were ruled from Moscow during the Cold War but are now members of NATO.

Earlier this month, Russian and Chinese special forces held a joint counter-terrorism exercise dubbed "Friendship 2007" in Moscow, underlining the two neighbours' growing security ties.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070914111448.z1b6iqi2&show_article=1

Source: http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/139870-British+jets+again+intercept+Russian+bombers

Posted by: Blue Eyed Nov 2 2007, 04:02 AM
Hi Mark

So far this year Norwegian F-16 jet fighters from the Bodoe air base have been on their wings 39 times to monitor Russian activity (read: military aircrafts) off the Norwegian coast. (they never violate the Norwegian territorial line btw)

Latest incident was this past night when 2 russian "BearH"/Tu95M(S/S6/S16) got close to the coast of Norway.

2 Norwegian and 4 British jet fighters followed them down between Bergen (west coast of Norway) and Shetland.

During the cold war it was 600 flights like this every year!
And now as the Russian economy is so much better, and the US is showing off the way they are - I'm not surprised.

Posted by: Mark Nov 5 2007, 01:45 PM
Hi Blue Eyed thanks for the news from your part of the world!

Posted by: Blue Eyed Mar 15 2008, 05:27 AM
I picked up this article about ex-Illuminati-member Leo Zagami from Red Ice Creation, http://redicecreations.com :

From February 2008:

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NWO Whistleblower Leo Zagami Betrayed By His Wife and Norwegian Legal Authorities
http://kentroversypapers.blogspot.com/2008/03/nwo-whistleblower-leo-zagami-betrayed.html

On February 23, 2008; Leo Zagami's wife left him, taking with her, their young son. As Leo would later find out, the woman he thought was his wife and who loved him, had turned out to have been working as an undercover Illuminati agent all along. When she left on the 23rd of February, she phoned Leo's mother, and told her that both she and her son would have no trouble visiting their young son and grandson. She has since reneged on this statement, and now forbids both her son's father and grandmother from visiting with their young relative.

On March 5, 2008 -- a man and a woman showed up on Leo's doorstep. Working for Norwegian authorities, they were instrumental in Leo's arrest and detention for twelve hours, where he was kept in a Norwegian prison cell with no blanket, no pillow or mattress on his bunk, and all food and drink had been withheld from him. Additionally, his two computers were confiscated, as was his cell phone, and all his notes for his work exposing this global criminal network.

Leo's wife, who had been working all along for the Illuminati, has accused him of spousal abuse, and his enemies have been accusing him of pedophilia. Leo is a personal friend of mine, and he is NOT anything like this at all. He is a gentle spirit, who is genuinely concerned about exposing this criminal network, as well as the fate of the world.......  more at link....



Ex-Illuminati-member Leo Zagami is now living in Norway. From his homepage:

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http://ww.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it/

Leo Lyon Zagami, ex-member of the Comitato Esecutivo Massonico - Masonic Executive Committee (MEC) of Monte Carlo. He was, until recently, a high level member of the Italian Illuminati, a 33rd degree freemason, a true insider and a high-member of the infamous Freemasonic P2 Lodge. He was the "prince", prepared to take over after the older Illuminati "king", Licio Gelli. He is of Illuminati aristocrat bloodline and therefore involved in the Illuminati Order since childhood.

However, Leo decided he'd had enough of all the evil he was exposed to, and a part of, and the horrifying Satanic, black magic rituals, mind control and torture that was going on inside the lodges, behind closed doors. So he left everything and fled to Norway, where he is currently residing. Since he left, he's been harassed and tortured and had his life threatened. He realized that the only way to hopefully stay alive is to expose to the world what he knows and make himself known.
History shows that this is one of the best ways to survive, although nothing is for certain. Leo quickly started this website, Illuminati Confessions, where he reveals the secrets to the world, one by one. I strongly advise you to check it out and download it to your computer, in case they decide to silence him for good, and this website will be shut down. There is a lot of extremely important information here, and much of it can't be found anywhere else. Leo has also been a guest several times at Greg Szymanski's radio show and in many other radio channels.

Posted by: Blue Eyed Mar 15 2008, 05:54 AM
More news from Norway - from March 14th:

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CIA flight landed in Stavanger
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2314351.ece

A Beechcraft 350C aircraft believed to be used by the US Central Intelligence Agency landed at the Sola airport south of Stavanger Friday morning. Some politicians are calling for an investigation, fearing the flight carried prisoners of war being sent to US military bases.

The CIA flights have long been controversial in Europe, because of their use for prisoner transport.

The aircraft that landed in Norway Friday morning carried the American registration number N4466A and is owned by Aviation Specialities Inc of Baltimore, Maryland in the US.

Aviation Specialities is, according to a report made to the European Parliament in 2006, controlled by the CIA.

The flight arrived from Brno Turany in the Czech Republic, landed for refueling and flew on to Keflavik in Iceland.

"There is reason to believe such flights are used for illegal transport of prisoners," said Bjørn Jacobsen, a member of the Norwegian Parliament for the Socialist Left party (SV), which is part of the country's left-centre government coalition.

Jacobsen is calling for an investigation into why the plane was allowed to land in Norway.


"We need all the cards on the table," Jacobsen said. "This is extremely serious, because we can't contribute to people being tortured or not being granted the rights they have as prisoners."

Other Nowegian politicians agreed. "The problem is that we're getting a hint that this can be one of those (prisoner transport) flights, but no confirmation," said Alf Ivar Samuelsen of the Center Party, also part of the government coalition. "We can't do any more than go to the highest authorities in the government, and I've done that, two times."

Norway's foreign ministry claimed it was unaware that a CIA-controlled flight landed at Sola on Friday.  frantic.gif

"The only thing I can say is what we've said earlier, that the American authorities respect Norwegian laws, and that these flights aren't being used for illegal transport of prisoners," said spokeswoman Kristin Melsom.


More news from yesterday:

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Four times more crime in Oslo than New York
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2299327.ece
The crime rate in Oslo has been growing at an alarming rate and recent statistics show the Norwegian capital had 20 percent more robberies last year than in 2006.
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The Oslo police are blaming the increase on an influx of East Europeans, and Minister of Justice Knut Storberget is reportedly partly in agreement.


I guess this is a great excuse to introduce those tasers pretty soon..... angryNEW.gif


older news:

from Jan 29th:

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'The worst US president'
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2225168.ece

A Norwegian professor who's considered one of the country's leading experts on US politics has ranked George W Bush as the worst US president in history. The best: Abraham Lincoln.

Professor Ole O Moen, who has followed American politics most of his career, has just written a book about all the US presidents. Aftenposten's weekly magazine A-magasinet asked Moen to choose who he thinks are the five best presidents and the five worst.


from Jan 21st:

Problems in the US economy is felt all around the world - also in Norway:

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'This is a crash'
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/business/article2209251.ece

Share prices in Oslo took another steep dive as soon as the market opened Monday morning, and when trading ended, stocks had taken their worst collective fall in 10 years. Analysts called it "gruesome."

You can almost call this a crisis," investment director Einar Bonnevie at Warren Wicklund told news service E24. "Fear and negative psychology have taken over the market."
The main index of the Oslo Stock Exchange fell a whopping 5.5 percent by lunchtime, to just 383 points. When trading ended Monday afternoon, the stock exchange had fallen 6.4 percent, with the index landing at just 378.91 points.

That was much worse than the market slump after terrorists crashed into the World Trade Center in New York on September 11, 2001. Share prices haven't fallen so steeply since 1998, when Asia slipped firmly into crisis.

"It's a crash and a crisis," said Trygve Hegnar, one of Norway's major investors and publisher of financial media like magazine Kapital.

Other players were also using words like "crisis" and "catastrophe." Many fear the US will go into recession, and that its effects will be felt in Europe.

Posted by: Mark May 16 2010, 09:37 AM
Did anyone else see this?

NORWAY SPIRAL IN SKY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnkJKkFtFbQ&feature=related

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