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Posted by: Kyra Dec 2 2004, 06:56 PM
Very interesting....is the Destroyer returning? I am assuming it is a celestial object.




Kolbrin


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The passing of the 12th in the past is mentioned in a book I became acquainted with on my arrival in New Zealand 3 years ago. The book is called The Kolbrin and compiled of manuscripts saved before the burning of Glastonbury Monastery and safeguarded by a group called "The Culdians". I hasten to mention that I am not a Culdian and was given the book by a friend who is a member. The present work was published in 1994 here in Thames by The Culdians and the translation appears in modern English. It is a parallel bible, but interestingly has more detail on certain accounts such as The Flood and Exodus. It names The Destroyer as precipitating both events and there are many pages describing the terrible events to come. Although no dates are mentioned, there can be no doubt that it will be soon. Chapter Four, titled The Deluge from The Book of Gleanings, Paragraph 24

Then, with the dawning, men saw an awesome sight. There, riding on a black rolling cloud came the
Destroyer, newly released from the confines of the sky vaults, and she raged about the heavens, for it was her day of judgement. The beast with her opened its mouth and belched forth fire and hot stones and a vile smoke. It covered the whole sky above and the meeting place of Earth and heaven could no longer be seen. In the evening the places of the stars were changed, they rolled across the sky to new stations, then the floodwaters came.

The floodgates of Heaven were opened and the foundations of Earth were broken apart. The surrounding waters poured over the land and broke upon the mountains. The storehouses of the winds burst their bolts asunder, so storms and whirlwinds were loosed, to hurl themselves upon the Earth. In the seething waters and howling gales all buildings were destroyed, trees were uprooted and mountains cast down. There was a time of great heat, then came a bitter cold. The waves over the waters did not rise and fall but seethed and swirled, there was an awful sound above.
Four more paragraphs to the end of the chapter, describe how the stars were loosened in the Heavens. A ship that had been built been borne up by the waters. The waters filling the valleys and going over the mountain tops in huge surging torrents. The Destroyer then passes, the flood remains for seven days and the ship finally comes to rest in the moutains of Ashtar. And here is described the last passage of the 12th Planet at the time of the Exodus. Book of Manuscripts, The Destroyer Part 3 from the scroll of Adepha, Chapter 5, Para 1:

The Doomshape, called the Destroyer,in Egypt,was seen in all the lands thereabouts. In colour it was bright anf fiery, in appearance changing and unstable. It twisted about itself like a coil, like water bubbling into a pool from an underground supply, and all men agree it was a most fearsome sight. It was not a great comet or a loosened star, being more like a fiery body of flame.
Para 4:

This was the aspect of the Doomshape called the Destroyer, when it appeared in days long gone by, in
olden times. It is thus described in the old records, few of which remain. It is said that when it appears in the Heavens above, Earth splits open from the heat, like a nut roasted before the fire. Then flames shoot up through the surface and leap about like fiery fiends upon black blood. The moisture inside the land is all dried up, the pastures and cultivated places are consumed in flames and they and all trees become white ashes.
Chapter 6, Para 31:

There was a strange silence and then, in the gloom, it was seen that the waters had parted, leaving a passage between. The land had risen, but it was disturbed and trembled, the way was not straight or clear. The waters about were if spun within a bowl, the swamp land alone remained undisturbed. From the horn of the Destroyer came a high shrilling noise which stopped the ears of men.
Para 29

Pharoah fought against the hindmost of the slaves and prevailed over them, and there was a great slaughter amid the sand, the swamp and the water.
Para 37

The great surge of rocks and waters overwhelmed the chariots of the Egyptians who went before the footmen. The chariot of the Pharoah was hurled into the air as if by a mighty hand and was crushed in the midst of the rolling waters.
There is much description of massive upheaval in this chapter caused by The Destroyer leaving no doubt that the Slaves only managed to escape during a time of great chaos in the fermenting landscape. Then, about the future: Chapter 3 The Destroyer Part 1, from the Great Scroll, Para 1:

Men forget the days of the Destroyer. Only the wise know where it went and that it will return in its appointed hour.
Para 3:

When ages pass, certain laws operate upon the stars in the Heavens. Their ways change, there is movement and restlessness, they are no longer constant and a great light appears redly in the skies.
Para 4:

When blood drops upon the earth, the Deastroer will appear and moutains will open up and belch forth fire and ashes. Trees will be destroyed and all living things engulfed. Waters will be swallowed up by the land and seas will boil.
The timing for this event will be when "women will be as men and men as women", "men will fly in the air as birds and swim in the sea as fishes", "then shall the high strive with the low" etc, etc. There follows a depiction of the effects of The Destroyer this time around which is poetic and terrifying, i.e. "when children will turn grey headed".


http://www.helpthebishops.com/TheKolbrinparagraphs.htm

Posted by: Saxon Dec 2 2004, 07:25 PM
Yes, the Destroyer is near, that is the reason that our solar system is behaving the way that it is. That is also the reason that all the Navys of the world are still currently out in deep water. The "Great Destroyer" is no simple orbiting celestial body. It gives little personal warning in advance without the aid of telescopes, siezmic equipment etc. We have currently fulfilled all the preliminary symtoms of it's presence.

The hell of it is that we go from a day just like today to tomorrow the sky is 20% filled with it's "face" ripping the earth apart. The event takes about one week, "hell week". omg.gif

Posted by: Kyra Dec 2 2004, 07:44 PM
Thought so.

I had another vision during meditation yesterday.

I saw a great wind. Whole houses that were picked up by this great wind and were being hurled back towards the earth. Then I heard someone shout, "Heads up!!" End of vision.

The vision before this one was about a great valley being split and cracking open in several directions, and then all of a sudden the whole valley floor just falls. End of vision.

It was fightening.

The visions are just a few seconds long. It is like I am actually there watching.

I see the sunrise every morning, since the time change. The sun is rising too far south.

Posted by: Saxon Dec 2 2004, 08:26 PM
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I saw a great wind. Whole houses that were picked up by this great wind and were being hurled back towards the earth. Then I heard someone shout, "Heads up!!" End of vision.

The vision before this one was about a great valley being split and cracking open in several directions, and then all of a sudden the whole valley floor just falls. End of vision.



Both of these are very characteristic of the tearing apart this earth receives from the Great Destroyer. It is in essence God's "tiller" for His "vineyard" here. When the sources of Truth become so polluted as to offer no possiblity for "ascention", the "vineyard" is tilled in with the weeds and it gets restarted.

This will be the last and final passing of the Great Destroyer. It appears to have some connection with the Renegade Heavenly Host.


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It was frightening.



Men's hearts will fail from the sight and sound, "10,000 screaming lions". Of course, it's a whole lot more than the sight and sound killing them, truly, Shoul will "open wide it's mouth".



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I see the sunrise every morning, since the time change. The sun is rising too far south.



I and a friend have documented the same. Apparently it is pulling on the nearest pole and increasing the tilt angle of the earth in regard to the sun. Pull out a globe and pretend your eye is the sun. By tilting it more towards yourself you will see that the point you live at on the globe will not only "see" your eye as "setting" further south in the wintertime, but the days will also be slightly shorter depending upon the increase in angle.


Posted by: Kyra Dec 2 2004, 09:07 PM
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The hell of it is that we go from a day just like today to tomorrow the sky is 20% filled with it's "face" ripping the earth apart.


I saw this very large red fiery celestial object during an OBE in 1995. In another vision I saw it 'filling' the horizen. I had posted about the vision of this celestial body on the horizen on the Burisch thread at GLP under my user name/avatar "my two cents". Some here might remember that post.

I didn't know for sure and didn't want to say that what I was being shown was future events (could have been past life experiences, since I remember a few of mine), but after witnessing, most definitely, modern homes being hurled about and seeing the sun rising too far south, I think what I am being shown are future events.

Posted by: satchmo Dec 2 2004, 10:10 PM
I would love to get a copy of the Kolbrin, sound's a lot more accurate/easier to read than the bible. Glastonbury is a magical place and the water still run's red in the chalice well where the holy grail was said to have been hidden for some time. The well is marked by the vesica pisces and the staff that Joseph of Aramathea put in the ground still grow's to this day. Glastonbury tor was also known as Avalon around the year five hundred ad. The destroyer sound's very much like what Mother Shipton mention's in her prophecies. http://www.mystical-www.co.uk/momship.htm Thing's certainly are going awry in our solar system,planet's changing polarity, brightness,sun storms/cme's and probably lot's of thing's that we don't get to hear about! From the mess that our planet's in at the moment I'd say it's about time!! And if tptb get their way they'll screw it up some more with the more time they are given! satchmo.

Posted by: Parinthian Dec 2 2004, 11:28 PM
By any chance could the destroyer be the reason the Mayans end the calander on December 21st, 2012? I'll bet this destroyer is the reason no one knows about the many underwater and sub-surface ruins scattered across the planet. Hopefully this time around the effects will not be so severe.

Posted by: Blue Eyed Dec 3 2004, 01:15 AM
Hi!
I've tried to read the Kolbrin-book, but since English isn't my native tongue it's kind of heavy to comprehend. Very interesting though.

Some of you guys who know what this symbol on the frontpage mean?
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For those who don't know much about this book and want to read more, these links are pretty useful:

Yowusa had some articles about the book earlier this year:
http://www.yowusa.com/Public/1Q04/kb_public01/kb_public01.htm

And you'll find some of the manuscripts online here:
http://www.thekolbrin.com/

I've read somewhere that these Kolbrin-texts are part of the non-religious texts used in the Hermetic Philosophies of the Mystery Schools in Egypt.
It will be interesting to follow your discussion about the Destroyer (and maybe the Kolbrin?). 1LizardEyeSM.gif1LizardEyeSM.gif

Posted by: Kyra Dec 3 2004, 07:16 AM
Hi satchmo, Parinthian, and Blue Eyed! waving.gif

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From the mess that our planet's in at the moment I'd say it's about time!! And if tptb get their way they'll screw it up some more with the more time they are given! satchmo.


I agree, satchmo!



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By any chance could the destroyer be the reason the Mayans end the calander on December 21st, 2012? I'll bet this destroyer is the reason no one knows about the many underwater and sub-surface ruins scattered across the planet. 


Yep! I think the Destroyer is the reason. They knew the cycle of the Destroyer and knew it would be retuning.

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Hopefully this time around the effects will not be so severe.


Parinthian, from what I have 'seen' the effects are very severe. Many will die quickly. I don't mean to bring doom and gloom...just the facts. We are told in the bible that these end times are the most evil of all the ages past. More evil, more destruction.


Blue Eyed, I don't recognize the symbol. It is very unusual, pretty. Maybe Sax knows more about it, since he owns a copy of the Kolbrin.

Thanks so much for the links. I definitely will be checking them out.

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I've read somewhere that these Kolbrin-texts are part of the non-religious texts used in the Hermetic Philosophies of the Mystery Schools in Egypt.


Interesting!

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It will be interesting to follow your discussion about the Destroyer (and maybe the Kolbrin?).


I believe that Sax is more than willing to share what he learns from the Kolbrin, so we are in luck!


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Posted by: Mark Dec 3 2004, 07:36 AM
Hi Kyra, interesting info. Thanks for sharing your visions and dreams.

I'll share mine too, gradually. But I talk to much already. hehehe

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I see the sunrise every morning, since the time change. The sun is rising too far south.


But I just had to comment on this.

I took my morning walk and the sun is almost halfway in between E. and S.

I'd say 10 degrees closer to East.

Maybe the Earth really is wobbling???

Maybe that could explain why some of us have been feeling weird and going through changes the past couple of years?

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Posted by: Kyra Dec 3 2004, 08:25 AM
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Hi Kyra, interesting info. Thanks for sharing your visions and dreams.

I'll share mine too, gradually. But I talk to much already. hehehe


You are welcome, Pupp. Don't be shy and I love reading your posts/thoughts/experiences. I haven't noticed that you talk too much. I think most of us are too quiet. blushNEW.gif


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I took my morning walk and the sun is almost halfway in between E. and S.

I'd say 10 degrees closer to East.


Yep! You are in Calif., like myself.


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Maybe the Earth really is wobbling???


I know the earth is wobbling.


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Maybe that could explain why some of us have been feeling weird and going through changes the past couple of years?


Yes, it is part of the reason.


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Posted by: Saxon Dec 3 2004, 09:21 AM
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I saw this very large red fiery celestial object during an OBE in 1995. In another vision I saw it 'filling' the horizen.


That's it's description and it fills "one fifth" of the horizon.

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The destroyer sound's very much like what Mother Shipton mention's in her prophecies.


Mother Shipton aparantly had read the Kolbrin more than likely. Much of the knowledge therein was much more commonplace during her time.

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By any chance could the destroyer be the reason the Mayans end the calander on December 21st, 2012? I'll bet this destroyer is the reason no one knows about the many underwater and sub-surface ruins scattered across the planet. Hopefully this time around the effects will not be so severe.


Yes, the Mayans knew all about the Destroyer as well as the Egyptians and anyone else who lived to tell the story for that matter. lol.gif

Yes, it is responsible for most of the fossils and ancient ruins that have been "tilled" in so to speak. This time appears to vary in the regard that a two pass event appears to be in the offing this time, an initial minorly destructive pass historically followed by a totally destructive pass. The second pass will leave only those secured in underground cities alive. Those in these cities will be summarily retrieved by the Magistrates of the Kingdom and executed, childern first, then the adults, in much the same manner that the giants of old in the Book of Enoch details. Don't get all distressed with this, we're just talking flesh bodies here, their soul/spirits will be off to the "pit".


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Some of you guys who know what this symbol on the frontpage mean?


lol.gif Well this guy certainly does. It is the "womb" of the Creator. It is described in reasonable detail in the Kolbrin.



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Panthian, from what I have 'seen' the effects are very severe. Many will die quickly. I don't mean to bring doom and gloom...just the facts. We are told in the bible that these end times are the most evil of all the ages past. More evil, more destruction.


Again, apparently not on the first pass. The first pass will generate the "event" from which Lucifer and his band of jerks will "save" everyone. Many will die in this event, but not huge percentage wise. It's the second pass that extinguishes all life here as we have come to know it.


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I believe that Sax is more than willing to share what he learns from the Kolbrin, so we are in luck!


Not only has the Sax read both the Kolbrin and The Gospel of the Kailedy, he has also extensively highlighted them. lol.gif


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Maybe that could explain why some of us have been feeling weird and going through changes the past couple of years?



It's part of the reason but not all. As with many things the reasons are mutliples of the magnetic field deterioration, HAARP, GWEN towers and don't forget the poison in your water (rat poison), food, and drugs. (Hey, they have the bases covered) So, add all those up, shake vigorously and drink up, because you are whether you want to or not. blinkNEW.gif

Posted by: Parinthian Dec 3 2004, 07:34 PM
Ok this destroyer, since it is a celestial object with an elongated orbit's approach must be different every time. Obviously it cannot kill everything or nothing would be here. Also I do not think the effects are as devastating every time it passes. Sometimes it's too close and we get an "Atlantician Event" Ooh I like that one smileNew4.gif On other times it's distance is a little further away and the effects are mild, (Exodus) a little more localized on the side of the planet that faces it as it passes. It all depends upon the planet's location as to the sun. 12/21/12 beavisheadbang.gif

Posted by: Parinthian Dec 4 2004, 11:25 AM
Would the mass of the destroyer cause it to pull a hairpin turn around the sun or would the sun fling it more ar less in a 90 degree angle away from it? Anyone know? turnipsmack.gif

Posted by: Without Fear Dec 4 2004, 11:45 AM
Hi Saxon, Kyra, Satchmo, Parinthian, Blue Eyed, and PuPP,
This is facinating stuff - thanks.

Is Planet X, Nibiru, etc, the same as Destroyer, and are these links related to destroyer?

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0412/01passingstar/

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/nemesis_010320-1.html

And could you point me to the ancient writings (or whatever) that most clearly indicate when it'sreturn is expected?

thanks
WF



Posted by: BJ1 Dec 4 2004, 03:50 PM
WF, here is some of what I have saved concerning the planet Nibiru:

In Morris Jastrow, The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, p. 539, note 2, we are told that the Dur.An.Ki. was "the name probably of a temple-tower in Nippur, sacred to En-Lil." O.K. What we get, then, is that the most sacred place, at least to the followers of En-Lil, was in Nippur, at the Central Temple where the Dur.An.Ki. was located. ...

"The Sumerians considered the abode (called ´cult center´ by most scholars) of Enlil as the Navel of the Earth, the place from which other key locations were equidistant, the epicenter of concentric divinely ordained sites. Best known by the later Akkadian/Semitic name Nippur, its Sumerian name was NIBRU.KI - ´The Place of the Crossing,´ representing on Earth the Celestial Place of Crossing, the site of the Celestial Battle to which Nibiru keeps returning every 3,600 years.

Functioning as a Mission Control Center, Nippur was the site of the DUR.AN.KI, the ´Bond Heaven-Earth´ from which the space operations of the Anunnaki were controlled, and at which the sky-maps, and all the formulas concerning the celestial motions of the members of our Solar System and the tracking of Divine Time, Celestial Time, and Earthly Time and their interrelationships, were maintained and calculated." - p. 74

From my files. I found the subject of Nippur/DUR.AN.KI/Anunnaki to be greatly interesting:


http://www.antiqillum.com/texts/bg/Rose_Croix/RC011.htm

Other sites:

http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Strayreality/The_Arrival_Part3.htm

http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/PROJ/NIP/PUB93/NSC/NSC.html

http://encyclozine.com/Nippur

http://www.piney.com/BabCrNippur.html

BJ



Posted by: Kyra Dec 4 2004, 04:47 PM
Hi guys! waving.gif

I don't know anymore than what I have related here. Nibiru, Planet X, Wormwood, or the Destroyer. I'm sure it has many names given it by ancient peoples throughout the ages.

The biblical account:


Isa 24:1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

Isa 24:2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.

Isa 24:3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.

Isa 24:4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.

Isa 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.

Isa 24:6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

Isa 24:7 The new wine mourneth, the vine languisheth, all the merryhearted do sigh.

Isa 24:8 The mirth of tabrets ceaseth, the noise of them that rejoice endeth, the joy of the harp ceaseth.

Isa 24:9 They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.

Isa 24:10 The city of confusion is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man may come in.

Isa 24:11 There is a crying for wine in the streets; all joy is darkened, the mirth of the land is gone.

Isa 24:12 In the city is left desolation, and the gate is smitten with destruction.

Isa 24:13 When thus it shall be in the midst of the land among the people, there shall be as the shaking of an olive tree, and as the gleaning grapes when the vintage is done.

Isa 24:14 They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the LORD, they shall cry aloud from the sea.

Isa 24:15 Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.

Isa 24:16 From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.

Isa 24:17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.

Isa 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.

Isa 24:19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

Isa 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

Isa 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

Isa 24:22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

Isa 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Posted by: Without Fear Dec 4 2004, 04:58 PM
Hi BJ and Kyra!
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I appreciate the information...

I’ve heard about PX, etc before, but have no real background about it. The references here to Destroyer are resonating with me, and I need to understand why. scratchinghead.gif

Time for more reading!

This forum is really good for quality sharing, thank you PuPP!
WF

Posted by: Saxon Dec 4 2004, 06:58 PM
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Ok this destroyer, since it is a celestial object with an elongated orbit's approach must be different every time.



Not only is it not just another celestial object (as if we here on this earth know anything of significance concerning the universe in this reagard), but it also travels unlike anything known to man currently. That is why the Navys of the world are at sea NOW and have been for many months. If it were simply predictable, the ships would have simply left one month in advance.


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Obviously it cannot kill everything or nothing would be here. Also I do not think the effects are as devastating every time it passes.



It has and this time, on the second pass, it will once more with only those in underground cities surviving. Those in these cities will be retrieved and executed, children first in front of their parents.



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Sometimes it's too close and we get an "Atlantician Event" Ooh I like that one  On other times it's distance is a little further away and the effects are mild, (Exodus) a little more localized on the side of the planet that faces it as it passes. It all depends upon the planet's location as to the sun. 12/21/12




Apparently this time it will bump us and then whack us on the way out. Yes, the Great Destroyer is responsible for all the things you mention above.




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Would the mass of the destroyer cause it to pull a hairpin turn around the sun or would the sun fling it more ar less in a 90 degree angle away from it? Anyone know?



Nope, and neither do the NASA "experts", it is NOT a simple celestial object.



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Is Planet X, Nibiru, etc, the same as Destroyer, and are these links related to destroyer?

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0412/01passingstar/

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sola...s_010320-1.html




The first link is NASA-ease hinting about "possibilities", the second is more direct "hinting".


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And could you point me to the ancient writings (or whatever) that most clearly indicate when it'sreturn is expected?


To date I have read none better than the Kolbrin.



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I’ve heard about PX, etc before, but have no real background about it. The references here to Destroyer are resonating with me, and I need to understand why.


These descriptions are "resonating" with you because you may have prior memories of them from the last time if you were here for the event. Many here now, have done this before. It's quite the "A" ride.


Posted by: isle Dec 4 2004, 10:34 PM
Saxon, are you thinking the big potato?

Posted by: Guest Dec 4 2004, 10:39 PM
Saxon, pray tell, what exactly is the nature of this beast? Saying it is a celestial object
that causes great destruction is rather indescriptive.
Would you please be so kind as to offer us a more scientific description of what this
might be, and if concepts from that field also fail, how about some sci-fi extracted
descriptions.

Thank you.

Posted by: Vianova Dec 4 2004, 10:49 PM
I guess all of you missed all the heated threads on GLP over the years with Vianova
Doc P ,
and BABBozo Phil Plait
on PX , NEATV1,Sedna, Velikovsky...etc.
I got banned off of BABB for the Velikovsky thread I posted on PX.
It was full of evidences scientifically supported , for a large celestial object
affecting comets paths, etc.
The Sedna threads as well on GLP covered a lot of similar proposed obects of
"several Earth masses" to the possibility of super massive brown dwarves, '
supermassive in relation to Earth.
sensing though that a complete reintroduction of a lot of the science evidence is
not necessarily desired in this thread , and as volumnuous and laborious it may be to post,
suffice it to say that you can count on some certain aspects of a "Destroyer" or PX

It is supermassive compared to Earth, and seriously affects Earth gravitationally.
If passing close enough,
it would affect oceanic tides in the least, and suck the oceans upwards to the skies in a giant volumnuous spire, all to crash back to earth in a giant splashback action.
Crustal catastrophism, and volcanic activity, tornados and hurricane force windstorms.

Even if the Pacific ocean were to bulge 50 feet in the direction of a passing gravitational monster , that splashback alone , once released by the gravitational pull, would inundate most global coastal land.

It will most likely approach from direct southern polar direction, unseen to surprise us for the most part.

Various passages of the PX Destroyer
must have differing levels of severity.
The Sumerian tale is a 3600 year cycle.
The Mayan date must not be ignored, and the bulidup to it.
There have been severe wipeouts of the planet in the past.
But not every 3600 years certainly.
And caused by many factors.

Take one look at NEATV1 here
{if link still connects}

http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/javagif/gifs/20030218_0754_c3.gif

2.5 times the size of Jupiter
The head}
with a supposed core the size of Mercury.
See the solar flare spank it....

The anomalies 2 days after NEATV1
Phil Plaits "Debris Particles-Data Transmission Errors"

http://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/javagif/gifs/20030220_2342_c3.gif

Then , just for fun
Vianova catching Doc P with his pants down, and kicking his butt
From the Yukon Jane thread
concerning PX style objects

Doc P says,
"There is no Jupiter-sized body, much less a brown dwarf,
***anywhere near the known planets.
Not only could we not miss seeing it,
***it would perturb the known planets so strongly that we couldn´t miss that."

then he contradicts himself,

"A Jupiter-sized planet as much as 7.5 million miles from Earth would have less tide-raising effect, and therefore less ability to cause earthquakes, than the Moon."

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=37&topic=3&message=371821&mpage=&showdate=8/6/04

Ahhh but a Jupiter sized brown dwarf is a different matter....

a little juice on those peskybrown dwarves often the size of Jupiter,
but much more massive

"The brown dwarf, called Gliese 229B (GL229B), is a small companion to the cool red star Gliese 229, located 19 light-years from Earth in the constellation Lepus.
** Estimated to be 20 to 50 times the mass of Jupiter,
GL229B is too massive and hot to be classified as a planet as
we know it,
**but too small and cool to shine like a star.
**At least 100,000 times dimmer than Earth´s Sun, the brown dwarf is the
faintest object ever seen orbiting another star."

"If the dwarf formed as a binary companion,
its orbit probably would be far more elliptical, as seen on most binary stars."

Or maybe even a fast traveling miniature black hole....?

Whatever it is,
It is not a carnival ride.






Posted by: Kyra Dec 5 2004, 10:22 AM
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sensing though that a complete reintroduction of a lot of the science evidence is not necessarily desired in this thread , and as volumnuous and laborious it may be to post


You are kidding, right, Vianova?? nyuknyuk.gif

Stop teasing! We live for this stuff. We are knowledge and truthseekers here.

Bring it on.



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