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I found this extensive story here:
It is a bit long but sums it pretty much up, by a doctor! Read and loose your fear.


When the wicked leaders of a wicked nation want to:

# Create FEAR and CHAOS and TERROR throughout the world
# Take away the rights of citizens in every nation in the world
# Create a world-wide pandemic and annihilation of a large segment of a nation’s population by forced vaccinations that secretly contain live bacteria and viruses for AIDS, herpes, hepatitis, and small pox, as well as preservatives made from mercury that cause brain damage and autism
# Control every country in the world by allowing the World Health Organization (WHO) to enter and take over their emergency medico-political apparatus and place embargos or quarantines on the entire country
# Eliminate the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which bans the military from participating in police-type activity on U.S. soil. This act specifically prohibits the government from using the military against its own citizens. (This Posse Comitatus Act was severely violated at Waco, when U.S. military troops were used against the Branch Davidians.)
# Help create famines in order to annihilate a large portion of the world’s population by killing off the food supply of any and every nation, by killing their chickens, turkeys and other birds used for food.
# Declare martial Law and suspend the Constitution

All they need to do is create - out of thin air –

the Bird Flu “Pandemic” HOAX!

Almost daily, the newspapers, radio stations and television programs pummel us with news of the coming Avian Flu “pandemic” and the necessity of developing vaccines and instituting mandatory vaccination programs - - - for EVERYBODY!

President George W. Bush has spoken repeatedly of a “Military Takeover In Case Of A Flu Outbreak.” (CNN October 4 & 5, 2005) and possible quarantine of the victims of bird flu! “I’m concerned about what an avian flu outbreak could mean for the United States and the world,” the President told reporters during a Rose Garden news conference.

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 bans the military from participating in police-type activity on U.S. soil. It was enacted to prohibit the government from using the military to control or attack the citizens of its own country. Bush began discussing the possibility of changing or eliminating this law in the aftermath of the government’s sluggish response to civil unrest following Hurricane Katrina. If this is done, it would allow the government of the United States to use military troops against its own people (as was already done in the Waco tragedy).
Symptoms of Bird Flu

Let’s examine the widely heralded (supposedly) coming Avian Flu Pandemic and what impact it could possibly have on the U.S. and the World!

1. What are the symptoms of bird flu in humans?

According to the web site of the (WHO) World Health Organization (, the symptoms of avian influenza (Type H5N1) are:

# Fever
# Sore throat
# Cough
# And possibly, viral pneumonia

The web site of the (CDC) Centers for Disease Control ( gives the following symptoms for avian flu:

# Fever
# Cough
# Sore throat and muscle aches
# And possibly, pneumonia

Another area of the web site of the CDC at gives the following symptoms for Avian Flu:

documented temperature of >38 degrees C

(>100.4 degrees F ), AND one or more of the following:
sore throat,
shortness of breath, AND

History of contact with poultry (e.g. visited a poultry farm, a household raising poultry, or a bird market) or a known or suspected human case of influenza A (H5N1) in an H5N1-affected country within 10 days of symptom onset.

Please note: A temperature of 100.4 degrees Farenheit can be generated on a hot day in a totally healthy person who has NO disease whatsoever! This is a medical fact.

A cough can occur from a cold, allergies, asthma, air pollution, certain medications, from smoking, or many other causes.

All these symptoms are non-specific, meaning they can occur in any combination with a host of medical conditions totally unrelated to bird flu OR regular flu.

So it’s possible for the government to quarantine a person for an indeterminate period of time, jeopardizing the person’s job and income, if he or she has a cough on a hot day! (Remember, the symptoms are: a temperature of >100.4 F AND one or more of the following: cough, sore throat, shortness of breath, OR contact with any type of bird.

2. What are the symptoms of REGULAR flu (NOT avian flu)? These are also given on the CDC’s web site at They are the following:

# Fever of 100.4 degrees F or higher
# Headache
# Extreme tiredness
# Dry cough
# Sore throat
# Runny or stuffy nose
# Muscle aches

Stomach symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, also can occur but are more common in children than adults.

3. Question: How does anyone differentiate the symptoms of AVIAN FLU (bird flu) from the symptoms of REGULAR FLU?

Answer: As a physician, I can tell you that it is IMPOSSIBLE to tell the difference!

“How many people die each year from REGULAR FLU (NOT bird flu)?

“The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) states, “Every year in the United States, on average, 36,000 people die from flu.” (

But this is a deliberate deception by the CDC!

“Below are the actual number of flu associated deaths from 1999 to 2002 from the CDC National Vital Statistic Reports


753 deaths in 2002 (page 16 of report)

257 deaths in 2001 (page 16 of report)

1,765 deaths in 2000

1,665 deaths in 1999

“How does the CDC get from 753 flu deaths to its statement that 36,000 flu deaths occur annually?

“By combining flu deaths with pneumonia deaths. The CDC National Vital Statistic Report for 2002 lists Influenza and Pneumonia as the 7th leading cause of death in 2002. You probably already guessed it – only 753 of those deaths were flu-associated and the rest of the 36,000 were pneumonia-associated. If all flu-associated deaths are removed, pneumonia associated deaths still ranks number 7 by itself. The media used the false 36,000 deaths number in its coverage – 50 times the actual 2002/2003 number.

“Are the 257 to 1,765 reported annual flu deaths from 1999 to 2002 even accurate?

“No. It is not possible to determine the actual number of deaths caused by the flu because the CDC has no death certificate category for deaths caused only by the flu. The CDC has three basic categories of flu deaths:

1. influenza plus pneumonia
2. influenza plus other respiratory manifestations/symptoms
3. influenza plus other manifestations/symptoms (non-respiratory)”

“Health professionals may try to justify the legitimacy of combining flu deaths with pneumonia deaths with the statement that “influenza leads to pneumonia.” But the facts do not support this frequent, broad misstatement by health professionals.

“The American Lung Association (ALA) describes pneumonia as having over 30 different causes (one being the influenza virus). Neither the CDC nor ALA know the specific causes of the pneumonias that resulted in death. However, we do know that influenza is not the major cause.

“Keep in mind that the influenza vaccine provides no protection from bacterial infections. The National Institute of Allergy & Infectious Disease as well as other health agencies estimate that the single bacteria – streptococcus pneumoniae – is responsible for 15% to 50% of ALL cases of pneumonia in the US, including up to 40,000 deaths annually (

“Pneumonia is also caused by other bacteria such as Staphylococcus aureus (staph), Pertussis (whooping cough), Streptococci, and Mycoplasma pneumoniae (a common cause of “walking” pneumonia). There are also many non-infectious causes of pneumonia such as asthma, aspiration of fluids, immunodeficiency, etc.

“So, it stretches credibility to assert that the flu causes pneumonia when, in fact, the data shows that it only causes a small minority of cases of pneumonia.”

CDC,Media Hype The Flu – Facts Show Different Picture Health Supreme by Sepp Hasslberger. Statistics compiled by Frank Hartman.

My Talk With The CDC

Several months ago, I called the CDC and spoke with one of the doctors in the “Flu Division.” I identified myself by name and as a physician, and he gave me his name and position. I asked him how a physician like myself could possibly differentiate “Bird flu” from “regular flu.” He answered, “You really can’t.”

I asked him if we physicians were asked to go house to house to check for people with bird flu with the possibility of quarantine of the patient (for how long?) and the potential for the quarantine to cause the person to lose income or even to lose his job, how could we distinguish “Bird flu” from the “regular flu”? He agreed it would be virtually impossible.

Then I asked him why President George W. Bush was publicly contemplating QUARANTINE for these patients? His response was, “He didn’t get that from us here at the CDC. That’s ALL politics!”
But Now The CDC IS Talking About Quarantine (I guess they got the message!)

Recently, Julie Gerberding, M.D., Director of the CDC, publicly discussed the possibility of quarantine as a method of controlling the “Bird flu” even though, by their own admission, it’s impossible to tell “Bird flu” from “regular flu.”
Remember SARS? How Does SARS fit into all this?What Are the Similarities Between “Bird Flu” and “SARS”? (according to the CDC’s own website)

1. They have IDENTICAL symptoms:

Fever of 100.4 degrees F or higher


General discomfort and body aches

Possibly a dry cough with mild respiratory symptoms

NOW, the question here, of course, is: How does one distinguish the symptoms of “Bird Flu” from “SARS”?

Answer: It is IMPOSSIBLE!

“Bird Flu,” “SARS, and Regular Flu ALL have the SAME symptoms!

How Interesting!!

SARS Was “Billed” as a Coming, Frightening Pandemic!

But just how many people have died from SARS?

According to the website of the World Health Organization (WHO), as of January 21, 2005, the statistics for SARS are as follows:

a. 8439 people – worldwide - have “been affected” – whatever that means! Does that mean they contracted the disease of “SARS” but didn’t die, or does that mean that they were “affected” because they or someone in their family was just exposed to SARS but did not get sick? The World Health Organization doesn’t tell us.

(“Been affected” is NOT a medical term and the WHO doesn’t explain what they mean. It sounds like the World Health Organization is trying to make the numbers sound bigger than they really are.)

b. And 812 deaths WORLDWIDE - over a period of the last 3-4 YEARS! (If, indeed, we can believe ANY of the figures we receive through the commercial media!)
Now Let’s Put This In Perspective!

Are you aware that EVERY DAY in the U.S. ALONE, more than 1,400 Americans die from Heart Disease?

Remember, that’s EVERY DAY! - - - - In just ONE country!

It is absolute NONSENSE to classify “SARS” as a potential pandemic! This is NOTHING more than rank propaganda! 812 deaths from SARS – Worldwide – over 3-4 years - compared to 1,400 deaths per DAY from heart disease in this country alone!

But SARS Did not Spread Fast Enough to Produce a Pandemic

Because “SARS” did not spread fast enough from country to country to create the Pandemic that was Predicted (and PLANNED for by the New World Order) – something else had to be done!

They had to develop - -

“SARS” With Wings!! - - -“Bird Flu”!!

Now they (the WHO – run by the New World Order) can have this disease flying from one country to another country wherever they want it to land. In addition, it allows them to destroy a significant portion of the food supply of any country they wish – the chickens, turkeys and other birds used for food by the population of these various countries. The New World Order has found that one excellent way to control a country is to control (or eliminate) their food. (See the United Nations quote at the end of this article!)

Is This Just “Terror Talk”?

How does one discern “Terror Talk”? How does one differentiate Truth from Propaganda?

Pay careful attention to the words in the title of the articles, and the (unfounded) assumptions and pure speculations made by the author both in the title and throughout the article. Here are a just a few REAL examples from some “Bird Flu” articles posted on the internet and in the print media in the last few months:

Indonesia – New Suspected Human Bird Flu Case (Web-Posted 1-8-06)

Notice that this is only a “suspected” Human case. In many, if not most, instances, the “suspected” case turns out not to be Bird Flu. But the public is never informed, leaving the impression that the case is real.

Mystery – Bird Flu Fails to Migrate As Expected (Posted 12-29-05)

The word “Mystery” is calculated to created fear in the reader, fear that no one will know what to do or how to stop the supposed “epidemic.” This article also suggests that “bird flu” is NOT traveling with migratory birds. (Maybe that’s because it’s NOT “Bird” flu!)

Bird Flu: How Worried Should You Be? USA TODAY , Oct 11, 2005

Notice that the title is assuming you should be worried! The ONLY question is HOW worried should you be. This is cleverly crafted to create unwarranted fear in the reader.

Bird Flu Could Pose Enormous Threat To US Economy Posted 12-9-05

Bird Flu “Could” do anything in the world that the author of the article can conjure up in his imagination. The use of the word “could” defines this article as pure propaganda. The article contains projections that have no basis in fact, including exaggerated mortality rates, and a preposterous figure of 30% of the population being affected. NOWHERE in the world, is this happening. This type of propaganda is shameful to the author and offensive to any reader who is a thinking person.

Dangerous Unique H5N1 Mutation in Ukraine? Posted 12-10-05

Notice the question mark at the end of the title. Nothing in the article has been verified. This should not even be reported until it is verified. This type of title (particularly beginning with the word “Dangerous!”) is specifically designed to put the question into the reader’s brain as though it is a fact. It is not fact. It is irresponsible to headline articles in this way.

Extensive H5N1 Human-To-Human Transmission In Indonesia? Posted 10-22-05

Here again we have the question mark! The information in the title is designed to be planted into the reader’s brain as fact – when it is only a question. This is a deliberately inflammatory title. This is irresponsible journalism. In addition, the article refers to only 7 or 8 cases, linked to what is termed four familial “clusters.” The word “cluster” is being used to imply that there are a number of cases of human-to human-transmission. On closer examination of the article, the reader finds that the author is using the word “cluster” to describe only TWO people. “TWO” people cannot be referred to as a “cluster.” Again, this is deliberately misleading, and irresponsible journalism designed to strike fear into the heart and mind of the reader, as well as to imply that this (non) disease WILL cause an epidemic.

Is H5N1 Wild Bird Flu In Canada? Posted 11-17-05

Again, watch for the question mark at the end of the title. The author is deliberately propagandizing the reader by implanting the question as a “fact” in the reader’s mind. But it is NOT a fact and should never be reported unless it IS a fact!

Turkey H5N1 Is Recombining With Mammalian Polymorphisms Posted 1-14-06

The average reader would have no idea what this author is writing about and does not have the background to understand anything in the article. All the reader will see is the title, and in the title the words “Turkey H5N1” and “Mammalian.” This is designed to implant in the reader’s mind the idea that “Bird Flu” is mutating into “Mammalian” or Human “Bird” flu. The purpose, again, is to create fear in the reader that the epidemic is getting worse, when, in truth, the article gives NO evidence to support that notion.

Several solid rules for judging whether an article is propaganda, are:

1. Watch for speculative terms. If the title ends with a question mark this is pure speculation. This allows the author to use his wildest imagination in developing a scenario to cause fear and panic.

2. Again watch for speculative terms. If the title contains the word “could”, this is pure speculation. This, again, allows the author to fabricate any outcome he chooses.

3. If the title contains inflammatory words such as “Dangerous” “Suspect” “Mystery” “Worried” “Fear” “Explode”, the chances are extremely high that this is pure propaganda designed to create fear.

Human Deaths From “Bird Flu”

How many deaths from Human “Bird Flu’ have been reported to date?

Approximately 65 deaths in Asia (the main area this “disease” supposedly has affected) from Human cases of “Bird Flu” have been reported by the World Health Organization (WHO).

According to the Internet World Stats (Usage and Population Statistics), the population of Asia is 3,622,994,130. That’s 56.4% of the World’s population.

If we divide 65 (supposed deaths from “bird flu”) into 3,622,994,130 people in Asia, the answer is approximately 54 million. That means that in Asia there has been ONE death for every 54 MILLION people! - - - HARDLY the statistics necessary to predict a frightening “Pandemic!” OR to call out the military forces!

That would be similar to declaring an epidemic of “Bird Flu” in the United States with only 5 or 6 deaths in the entire country! That, of course, would be ridiculous!

But why should we be surprised! George W. Bush is talking about declaring martial law and calling out the military when there has been NOT ONE SINGLE DEATH - - - OR EVEN ONE PERSON INFECTED with “Bird Flu” in the entire country!

This is nothing more than Fear-mongering Propaganda!

And What Are Our Sources of Information? Can We Trust Them?

We know that the commercial media, including television and the newspapers, is owned by a handful of people, the vast majority of whom are Zionist Jews. (If you don’t believe it, just search the web for the owners and CEOs of the TV networks and the major newspapers.) Here are some of their quotes, demonstrating that we cannot expect to hear truth through their news outlets:

Richard M. Cohan, Senior Producer of CBS political news said: “We are going to impose OUR AGENDA on the coverage by dealing with issues and subjects that WE choose to deal with.”

Richard Salant, former President of CBS News stated: “Our job is to give people not what they want, but what WE decide they ought to have.”

John Swinton, Former Chief of Staff for the New York Times, called by his peers “The Dean of his Profession” said in 1953: “There is no such thing. . . as an independent press. . . If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. . .We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.

Needless to say, Commercial Television and the Newspapers have completely ceased to be repositories of truth. They are not trustworthy in any way.

How about the Internet?

Information on Bird Flu comes primarily from the web sites of the following organizations:

The Centers for Disease Control

The World Health Organization, and

ProMed/ISID (International Society for Infectious Diseases)

How reliable are these organizations?

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC)

This is a highly politicized government organization. For example, the AIDS Information Hotline at the CDC, where one would call to find out how to be safe from AIDS, is run, not by the CDC! - a group that has the HIGHEST rate of AIDS in the country! Obviously, they have not learned – or don’t wish to practice – how to prevent AIDS!

If it is true, as it strongly appears to be, that “Bird Flu” is a HOAX, perpetrated by the government on the public to create fear, take away personal rights, make money on vaccinations and drugs for “bird flu”, cause real pandemics of disease and death by placement of other disease-causing organisms in the supposed “bird flu” vaccines, destroy huge numbers of turkeys, ducks and other birds to assist in causing massive famine, all of which will help decrease the population of the world, - - - then if a CDC employee, including the Director of the CDC, refused to go along with the government propaganda, he or she would be fired for insubordination.

So the CDC is not a trustworthy source of information about “Bird Flu.”

The World Health Organization (WHO)

The World Health Organization is the Population Control/Euthanasia/Genocide arm of the United Nations. The WHO has the same problems of bias and oversight as the CDC.

The United Nations ultimate goals are 1) the redistribution of wealth throughout the world, 2) a vast and rapid reduction in the population of the world for “sustainable development”, and 3) the elimination of nation-states with the implementation of a One World Government.

In conjunction with Illuminati members such as Prince Philip and Prince Charles of the U.K., they want to return the world to what they term a “Post-Industrial” or “Feudal Society” where there are only three main classes of people – The feudal lords (who own ALL the land), the administrators who work for the feudal lords, and the slaves, who work the land. (If you have any doubts about these issues, use your search engine to find information about the Illuminati, ”Sustainable Development”, “Feudalism”, the “Georgia Guidestones - America’s Stonehenge”, One World Government, and Population Control. Dr. Stan Monteith’s website has excellent information to get you started.)

One efficient way of reducing the population of the world, the Illuminati has found, is by the deliberate spread of disease. Bertrand Russell, and advisor to several presidents, wrote in his book, The Impact of Science on Society,

"At present the population of the world is increasing... War so far has had no great effect on this increase... I do not pretend that birth control is the only way in which population can be kept from increasing. There are others... If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full... the state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of it? Really high-minded people are indifferent to suffering, especially that of others."

For thousands of years, all the way back to Nero - and probably before, dictators have controlled their subjects by Fear and Terror! It is no different now. The phony “War on Terror,” promoted by U.S. President George W. Bush and his “Neo-Conservative” Zionist-Jewish controllers, such as Bill Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Dov Zakheim, Natan Sharansky, and others like them, is designed to terrorize Americans into giving up their rights (Read the Patriot Acts – I & II) whereby they will become slaves of the New World Order.

What could possibly be George W. Bush’s reason for doing this? Don’t he and his controllers like us common Americans? The answer is a firm “No.” In fact, they refer to us as “Useless Eaters!” Leaders of countries rarely have the best interest of their citizens at heart. If you doubt this, please read Death by Government by R. J. Rummel , a book that exposes genocide and mass murder by government. This extensively referenced book reveals that many more citizens have been murdered by their own government leaders than have been killed in war by foreign powers!

Recently, General Leonid Ivashov, the former Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces when the September 11, 2001, attacks took place, said during the Axis for Peace 2005 Conference, and now explains publicly, that “international terrorism does NOT exist and that the September 11 attacks were the result of a set-up. What we are seeing is a manipulation by the big powers; this terrorism would not exist without them.” (Posted at 1/22/06)

He explains that this “Terrorism” talk is the weapon used in a new type of war in complicity with the media, which allows modifying international politics and changing existing reality. In other words, “Terrify the people with incessant talk of “Terrorism” so they will give up their rights and become malleable slaves in the hands of the New World Order.”

So the World Health Organization of the United Nations, which is also promoting this myth of the “War on Terror” is NOT a trustworthy source of information about “Bird Flu.”

What about the Internet News Outlet – ProMed/ISID? Is it trustworthy?

Let’s investigate who funds ProMed/ISID.

On their website ( - and click on “About ProMed-mail), you will find the following:

“ProMed-mail and ISID are grateful to the Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Oracle Corporation, the Nuclear Threat Initiative, and an anonymous donor for financial support.

Who are these Donors?

The Gates Foundation has been set up by Bill Gates, a Zionist Jew, to promote the Zionist Jewish agenda, which is the same as the Illuminati’s agenda. Their agenda includes a vast reduction in the population of the world, including the United States, by war, pandemic disease and famine.

The Rockefeller Foundation has the SAME agenda as the Illuminati and the Gates Foundation. David Rockefeller, a member of the Illuminati, is a founder and member of several organizations such as the Trilateral Commission, The Bilderbergers and the Club of Rome, whose purpose is to a) set up a One World Government, b) control ALL business throughout the world and, c) dramatically and rapidly reducing the population of the world from 6 billion to 500 million, by war, disease and famine. (Verification for this is readily available on the internet and in many fully referenced books.)

The Oracle Corporation

Oracle’s CEO is Lawrence Joseph Ellison who is identified as a Jew on the Oracle Corporation website. His biography on that web site states that “Larry Ellison was born out of wedlock to a 19-year-old mother, and raised by her aunt. Oracle Corporation went public in 1986 and was on the verge of bankruptcy by 1990 when it was revealed that its revenues had been “overstated” for several years. . .Ellison’s net worth dropped about 3 1/2 BILLION after September 11, as stocks plummeted and Oracle stock lost almost 50% of its value.”

It certainly is curious how a little boy, born in the Bronx to a 19 year old single girl could, before the age of 50, amass a fortune large enough to LOSE 3 1/2 BILLION dollars!

The Nuclear Threat Initiative

The Nuclear Threat Initiative is run by Ted Turner who is infamous for wanting to eliminate a large majority of the world’s population.

So there we have it. If we’re going to evaluate ProMed/ISID, we must realize that its funding (and therefore its control) comes from groups, all of which have the goal of depopulating the earth.

How can we believe anything that comes from ProMed/ISID? Most certainly they would want to promote a Pandemic by propaganda! Nothing could please them more.

Also, anything that comes from the Zionist Jewish-controlled commercial media must be highly suspect!

Others who regularly Post “Bird Flu” Information on the Internet

Two others who regularly post information on “Bird Flu” on the web are: Henry Niman, Ph.D., and a woman with the internet name of Patricia Doyle.

In order to assess the veracity of any individual who posts information on the web or who speaks as an expert, it is necessary to be able to verify their qualifications.

Henry Niman, Ph.D.

Henry Niman received his Ph.D. at the University of Southern California in 1978 and took a post doctoral position at Scripps Clinic and Research Foundation, according to his website. His qualifications are verifiable. He is the Founder and President of Recombinomics, Inc., a company that, monitors viral recombination, a process that can be used to enhance vaccine development and allow vaccines to be prepared before viruses emerge,” according to his web site,

Since Dr. Niman’s company is heavily involved with the vaccine industry, and therefore, would significantly benefit financially from a “Bird Flu” pandemic, he certainly could have a real conflict of interest in the “Bird flu” situation. Much of the information he posts would be very difficult, if not impossible, to verify, as the cases of supposed “Bird Flu” come from obscure, tiny towns and villages - the smallest “nooks and crannies” on the globe.

How does he get this information?

Where does he get this information?

What are his sources?

It has been over two months now since I e-mailed him, asking him those questions, and to date I have received no response!

Patricia Doyle

Patricia Doyle (she admits that this is not her real name) chooses to remain a mystery. She uses the initials Ph.D. and D.V.M. after her name but she refuses to state where or when she received those degrees. I have e-mailed her directly asking for that information and she has refused to divulge it.

But she has admitted that she has NOT completed her Ph.D., yet she continues to use those initials after her name. This is Scientific Fraud!

She will not state WHERE she received her degrees!

She will not state WHEN she received her degrees!

She will not give her real name.!

This is totally unacceptable in the scientific world, and is insulting to the general public.

Why would anyone, especially a “professed” professional person, withhold this information unless she is deliberately lying about her qualifications and whether or not she actually holds these degrees.

Apparently she has shared some of this information with one individual who is not in the scientific world. But again, none of the information can be verified.

Until she comes clean and answers these questions for the entire public, she has no right to be considered an expert of ANY kind, nor should she have a forum on which to espouse her comments.

Her belligerence in deliberately withholding this information from the public, coupled with her promotion of the information on the (Illuminati/Zionist-Jewish-funded) ProMed/ISID website raises serious questions about the possibility that she is an infiltrator and a Zionist-backed disinformation agent.

So how can anyone believe anything she says?

So, How DO We Find Truth?

You may ask, “How can we believe anything? How do we make a judgment on what is really going on?” The answer is, we can learn to evaluate what they are saying about this supposed “pandemic” in the following ways:

1) The media and the New World Order/Zionist Jewish cabal are using all sorts of hyperbole when discussing this “Bird flu,” exaggerations that are in no way warranted. (When something is REALLY going on, such as Mad Cow Disease – or AIDS, especially in the 90’s – the government was/is covering up and down-playing the truth on both issues.)

2. As mentioned above, the incidence of “Bird flu” in Asia (even if we could believe their figures) is 1 in 54 MILLION – hardly what one would call a “Pandemic”!

3. Even with ALL their efforts, the Illuminati/Zionist Jewish cabal was not able to propagandize the public enough to get them to believe the lies about SARS! So they had to create, out of thin air – “Bird” Flu – which is nothing more than SARS “with wings.”

Now they can have this “disease” flying all over the world, wherever they want it to land (and how convenient to have it land in countries that are the enemies of the Zionist Jews, such as the Arab/Muslim nations of Indonesia, Bali, Iraq, Iran, and the City of Mecca, just in time for the Muslim pilgrimage, and in countries like Turkey and Korea who are both causing political problems for Israel and it’s subsidiary – the United States.

Isn’t it amazing that the birds infected with “Bird Flu” seem to gravitate to the countries identified by George W. Bush as the “Axis of Evil!”?

SARS (remember, it has exactly the same symptoms as “Bird flu”) wasn’t able to travel fast enough from country to country to create the “world-wide pandemic” the Illuminati had planned, so they had to come up with something with wings! Voila! - - - Bird Flu! SARS with wings!

4. The commercial media is pushing the propaganda of “Bird Flu” about as hard as any propaganda I have ever seen them promote, including the prospect of forced vaccinations. The greatest Weapon of Mass Destruction they can use on this country or any other country is mandatory vaccinations, vaccines that will contain the bacteria and viruses of multiple horrific diseases (a Super Vaccine containing numerous disease-causing live viruses and bacteria - something the CDC already admits they are developing) to be forced on EVERYONE!

Then the Illuminati will be absolutely sure to produce the “Pandemic” they desire, when billions succumb to the very diseases contained in the vaccine injection they received!

5. Real and dangerous diseases like AIDS and Mad Cow Disease, are purposely down-played and covered up by the government, even though they will eventually kill millions, and possibly billions, of people in the U.S. as well as many other countries.

But when a government purposely advertises, promotes, and exaggerates a disease, you can be sure that it’s fake!

Why Would the U.S. Government and the U.N. Perpetuate
this HOAX on America and the World?

Answer: Look who benefits – and How!

1. Follow the Money: Imagine the profits from forced vaccinations for every person around the globe! Followed by huge profits for the medical/industrial complex from drugs used for treatment, hospitalizations, physician costs, laboratory costs, and medical personnel to enforce quarantines! The pharmaceutical, vaccine-producing, and other medically related corporations are owned by the very same people (or their close associates) who run the world. (See 1) Bilderberg Profits from Bird Flu, Christopher Bollyn, American Free Press, Nov. 14, 2005, 2) World Bank To Put Up $1 Billion To Fight Bird Flu

I have received numerous e-mails from Stock Market Investment companies, showing how an investor can make huge profits on the coming “Bird flu” pandemic!

2. Power and Control: Any individual, group, state or nation that, in any way, resists the formation of a One World Government, can be quarantined, embargoed, or imprisoned. The Rulers of the world can stifle or annihilate ALL dissent.

3. De-population of the world: So the world can belong solely to the rich few who rule in tyranny. They have already begun the de-population the earth by:

War, in almost every country around the globe

Abortion, and its #1 promoter - Planned Parenthood

Infanticide – Soon to come

Euthanasia – physician-assisted suicide, of the elderly and those who are ill

Terminator seeds – Seeds that produce fruit that does not, in turn, produce seeds (such as “seedless” watermelons). These initial seeds have been patented by the mega-corporations, so the farmer must buy new seeds every year rather than being able to save seeds from his own harvest. In addition, the farmer can only purchase the seeds from the owners of the mega-corporations. This becomes so prohibitively expensive that the farmer goes bankrupt.

Patented Genetically engineered food that can be withheld at will – to promote famines

Weather control to make growing areas into dust bowls to engineer world-wide famines (Search the web under “Weather Control.”)

Destruction of the food supply of the world by killing off the turkeys, ducks and other birds used for food (because of the irrational fear of “Bird Flu”) in addition to the destruction of cows (because of the REAL threat of Mad Cow Disease – which they are presently down-playing), and sheep (because of the REAL threat of “Scrapie” which is Mad Sheep Disease). This is one of the ways they will bring about massive famines that will starve to death millions of people.

Man-made Diseases, (such as AIDS) bioengineered in government and military laboratories to cause super-infectious world-wide pandemics.

Mandatory Vaccinations developed to CAUSE (not prevent) horrible, deadly diseases in those who receive them, as well as autism, sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) and learning disabilities resulting from the mercury and other highly toxic substances vaccines contain. (See Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? by Neil Miller, New Atlantean Press at (

All of these methods are designed to de-populate the earth so the world can be owned and ruled by the “favored few”, those who say by self-proclamation, that they have the right and obligation to rule the world.

Here is a quote from the United Nations:

“Food is Power.

We use it to change behavior.

Some may call that bribery. We do not apologize.”

Catherine Bertini, executive director U.N. World Food Program, Beijing, China.

U.N. 4th World Conference on Women, September, 1995.

In other words,

“Do as we say, or we’ll starve you to death!”

The “Bird Flu” HOAX is only one part of an enormous plan to allow a select few to Rule the World and enslave or annihilate the rest!

This is HOW One Wicked Nation, the United States of America,

Can Kill Billions Around the World - - -

With One Lie!

Addendum: If you’re concerned about your health and the ability to resist all types of diseases, including the REAL emerging diseases (not “Bird Flu”) that will be perpetrated on the world by the Illuminati, please understand that you CAN be well, in spite of their evil plans. Visit my website at and learn how to Get Well and Stay Well – Naturally – From ALL Disease - Without Drugs!

Dr. Lorraine Day is an internationally acclaimed orthopedic trauma surgeon and best selling author who was for 15 years on the faculty of the University of California, San Francisco, School of Medicine as Associate Professor and Vice Chairman of the Department of Orthopedics. She was also Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital and is recognized world-wide as an AIDS expert.

She survived what was diagnosed as terminal breast cancer without radiation, chemotherapy or mutilating surgery. She got well by using only natural methods and continues to be totally well and cancer-free, fourteen years after her cancerous tumor first appeared! (See

She has been invited to lecture extensively throughout the U.S. and the world and has appeared on numerous radio and television shows including 60 minutes, Nightline, CNN Crossfire, Oprah Winfrey, Larry King Live, The 700 Club, John Ankerberg Show, USA Radio Network, Art Bell Radio Show, Three Angels Broadcasting Network and Trinity Broadcasting Network.

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Hi redniut, I've seen Dr. Lorraine Day's infomercials on tv where she speaks out about cancer cures WITHOUT harmful radiation or Chemo therapy.

Here's a photo of a huge tumor she had on her chest which she says was cured without radiation or Chemo.

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It's a fact the wealthy ruling elite have used FEAR as a weapon for centuries.

Here in America, we lived in fear of:

1. The Cold War - Nuclear annihilation from the former Soviet Union for decades
(We had duck and cover drills all of the time in public school - as IF covering our head is going to protect us from a NUKE)

The War on Drugs followed and today it's the War on Terrorism.

In America we are surrounded by:

2. Violent crime, daily murders, women and men slaughtering their children and families, drug addicts robbing and killing to feed their habits, pedophile clergy and rabbis and corrupt, wealthy greedy lying politicians.

3. Small pox

4. Swine Flu


6. Herpes, Hepatitis


8. Mediterranean Fruit Fly - Med Fly
(Our neighborhoods were sprayed with poisons)

9. West Nile Virus
(Our neighborhoods were sprayed again with poison)

10. Norwalk Virus and Corona Virus on Cruise ships

And sooo much more....

America has been fed a steady diet of FEAR and Manipulation while being encouraged to spend spend spend -- consume consume consume and waste natural resources and food.

I agree with Dr. Day that the elite are using this bird flu as an excuse to kill off mega food supplies.

I believe it is done to force villagers to migrate to their over populated and polluted cities in order to be fed and of course, vaccinated with harmful drugs which will poison them and rob them of their higher abilities --- especially memory.

Remember how the european invaders wiped out the massive buffalo herds in early America... removing the native Americans primary meat source?

"Ye shall know them by their fruits"
~ Matthew 7:16

"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, or who said it, even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
~ Buddha
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