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> GRAND CANYON - Ancient Artifacts, Egyptian ruins in the Grand Canyon?


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Posted: Oct 21 2004, 06:20 PM
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Wahya, perhaps one of these days, you could compile a thread on ancient swords and daggers. Fascinating information.

What gets me is how could anyone hack up another with these items. Unless of course it was in self defense, then I might be able to understand.

Tex, I really appreciate your professional input on this and other subjects.

My goal is to never mislead or present false information. But sometimes we either believe or we don't believe what others before us have written down.

For example, look how many millions of people believe that the bible is gods word with nothing other than their own faith as proof.

I for one try to keep an open mind. With that said, I believe that there were giants here in the Americas and around the world. I also believe that ancient cultures were here way before Columbus and his greedy men arrived. I'm sure you'd agree with that last part.

I believe in different biological entities, whether they are ETs or Aliens is beyond me as I have yet to actually meet one.

(Though I did have telepathic communications that woke me up and was warning me of our environmental destruction if we don't change the path were on and then an actual voice beamed into my skull in 2002 which almost drove me insane and eventually it turned into a religious experience, wanting me to be the lamb. This forum and my website probably wouldn't exist if I had not gone through what I did.)

I also believe in advanced craft not powered by conventional KNOWN or accepted technologies.

Again, thank you for helping us to uncover what is really out there!

BTW, nice avatar. "Dang that's a big rock"

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Posted: Oct 21 2004, 06:58 PM
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Wahya, perhaps one of these days, you could compile a thread on ancient swords and daggers. Fascinating information.


I have been thinking about it. Hoplology is my main area of interest in the ancient world.

I know quite a bit about viking and celtic swords, but my prefered weapons are axes, tomahawks in particular.

That guy who made the illustrations threw in Germanic/Norse swords and got me all worked up for nothing! offtopic.gif furious.gif

I live way out in the woods, I'm originally from the Smokey Mtns of Tennessee and I learned how to use a tomahawk at a very young age. Axes are far more useful in the woods than a sword.

But I'd love to have a well made repro of a Celtic urnfield period sword or a gallo-greek leaf bladed sword. A repro of a viking grettirsaex would be cool too...

I'm also a flintknapper and I'm one of the few people left who still make and know how to use eastern ball-headed style war clubs.
I'll post a few images of my pieces when I figure out how.
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I did have telepathic communications that woke me up and was warning me of our environmental destruction if we don't change the path were on and then an actual voice beamed into my skull in 2002 which almost drove me insane and eventually it turned into a religious experience, wanting me to be the lamb. This forum and my website probably wouldn't exist if I had not gone through what I did.


May 9th, 1990 I was riding my mountain bike and I stopped dead in my tracks.

I cant quite articulate it, but it felt like the very fabric of reality changed. Like 'The Matrix' so to speak was reprogrammed.

Everything I have learned and explored since then has been in the attempt to understand why.


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Posted: Oct 21 2004, 07:49 PM
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I'll post a few images of my pieces when I figure out how.


If you have the images uploaded online, such as BJ has been doing recently by signing up and using http://www.photobucket.com , you can then add them to your posts.

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May 9th, 1990 I was riding my mountain bike and I stopped dead in my tracks.

I cant quite articulate it, but it felt like the very fabric of reality changed. Like 'The Matrix' so to speak was reprogrammed.

Everything I have learned and explored since then has been in the attempt to understand why.


Ya know, that's where I've been since I had my awakening in 2002. I was a total sponge for knowledge. I wanted to know WHO ruled over us, what really happened on 9/11 and WHO was behind it, WHY we went to war in the Middle East, the truth about UFOs and biological entities, alternate CLEAN energies, cures for disease, cancer and other ailments which are also suppressed, and the TRUE history of Earth that has been covered up.

If you notice, I cover every section of this forum and just about all topics are of interest to me. You also seem very interested in a wide variety of subjects.

But I think before one can really come to desiring to truly seek knowledge and have an awakening, one must purify the body and eliminate the poisons we intake.
(alcohol, drugs and certain foods)

I actually have slowed down on my online research recently as the search engines make my browsers inoperatable and I lose all of my open browsers as they crash. Silvers chatroom also kills my browsers. Google is the worst for me, Yahoo seems a little better.







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I have always wondered how the ball is attached to the handle on those war clubs; are they shrunk or are they attached with an adhesive of some kind?

I think it is obvious that several groups of "visitors" have come to the southwest for a variety of reasons, from "dogfights" among different factions seen in New Mexico and in Medieval Europe, The images are worldwide and the artifacts are carefully secreted in private collections lest "official" collectors remove them from sight. Likewise I strongly suspect there are "portals" at various spots especially in the four corners area. However the version of the UFO recovered from the Grand Canyon that I read lacked detail and attribution to a source. If there is a more detailed version I would be eager to read it.

What I have found from the Rockwall research is that disinformationalists are quick to insert the UFO element even when none is claimed. This is because since around 1952 the campaign to discredit the UFO phenomenon has been one of the great successes of those who created the campaign. The "giggle factor" is well entrenched and effective, and since the kind of people who created it are so imaginatively challenged, they tend to use the same MO repeatedly. That is why I prefer to keep the UFO phenomenon a separate issue. Not because of skepticism but because it dilutes the focus.


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I have always wondered how the ball is attached to the handle on those war clubs; are they shrunk or are they attached with an adhesive of some kind?


Mine like most of the originals is hand carved from one solid piece. I prefer cherry heartwood. It takes about a month. Unlike the repros you see on ebay, mine can actually be used as weapons.

Some of the later originals did have the ball as a seperate piece glued in with pitch with a long iron spike further pinning it to the handle though.

I make the original style of one piece construction. Originally these were made from a suitable sapling's root ball, but I scavenge lumber mills' scrap piles so no trees need die to feed my hobby.


Some cultures like the Iroquois even made elaborate ones with a stone ball. I'll make one eventually.


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The cuneiform inscription on the blade reads:"Palace of Adad-nirari, king of the universe, son of Arik-den-ili, king of Assyria, son of Enlil-nirari, king of Assyria"


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The fact that that are ufos around, even depicted on ancient drawings, doesn’t necessary means they ought to be from an extraterrestrial origin...

We only need to pay attention to what the “fifth veil” says to begin to get some ideas...

But that doesn’t mean either that there are no advanced race(s). I guess we can have both... eheheh

Maybe I’ll put some ideas about that in written form... later.


I’m impressed Cloudjumper... somehow I suspect you didn’t use Babelfish... lol!

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Perhaps the most amazing suppression of all is the excavation of an Egyptian tomb by the Smithsonian itself in Arizona. A lengthy front page story of the PHOENIX GAZETTE on 5 April 1909 (follows this article), gave a highly detailed report of the discovery and excavation of a rock-cut vault by an expedition led by a Professor S.A. Jordan of the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian, however, claims to have absolutely no knowledge of the discovery or its discoverers.

The World Explorers Club decided to check on this story by calling the Smithsonian in Washington, D.C., though we felt there was little chance of getting any real information. After speaking briefly to an operator, we were transferred to a Smithsonian staff archaeologist, and a woman's voice came on the phone and identified herself.

I told her that I was investigating a story from a 1909 Phoenix newspaper article about the Smithsonian Institution's having excavated rock-cut vaults in the Grand Canyon where Egyptian artefacts had been discovered, and whether the Smithsonian Institution could give me any more information on the subject.

"Well, the first thing I can tell you, before we go any further," she said, "is that no Egyptian artefacts of any kind have ever been found in North or South America. Therefore, I can tell you that the Smithsonian Institute has never been involved in any such excavations." She was quite helpful and polite but, in the end, knew nothing. Neither she nor anyone else with whom I spoke could find any record of the discovery or either G.E. Kinkaid and Professor S.A. Jordan. While it cannot be discounted that the entire story is an elaborate newspaper hoax, the fact that it was on the front page, named the prestigious Smithsonian Institution, and gave a highly detailed story that went on for several pages, lends a great deal to its credibility. It is hard to believe such a story could have come out of thin air. Is the Smithsonian Institution covering up an archaeological discovery of immense importance? If this story is true it would radically change the current view that there was no transoceanic contact in pre-Columbian times, and that all American Indians, on both continents, are descended from Ice Age explorers who came across the Bering Strait. (Any information on G.E. Kinkaid and Professor S.A. Jordan, or their alleged discoveries, that readers may have would be greatly appreciated.....write to Childress at the World Explorers Club at the above address.)

Is the idea that ancient Egyptians came to the Arizona area in the ancient past so objectionable and preposterous that it must be covered up? Perhaps the Smithsonian Institution is more interested in maintaining the status quo than rocking the boat with astonishing new discoveries that overturn previously accepted academic teachings.

Historian and linguist Carl Hart, editor of WORLD EXPLORER, then obtained a hiker's map of the Grand Canyon from a bookstore in Chicago. Poring over the map, we were amazed to see that much of the area on the north side of the canyon has Egyptian names. The area around Ninety-four Mile Creek and Trinity Creek had areas (rock formations, apparently) with names like Tower of Set, Tower of Ra, Horus Temple, Osiris Temple, and Isis Temple. In the Haunted Canyon area were such names as the Cheops Pyramid, the Buddha Cloister, Buddha Temple, Manu Temple and Shiva Temple. Was there any relationship between these places and the alleged Egyptian discoveries in the Grand Canyon?

We called a state archaeologist at the Grand Canyon, and were told that the early explorers had just liked Egyptian and Hindu names, but that it was true that this area was off limits to hikers or other visitors, "because of dangerous caves."

Indeed, this entire area with the Egyptian and Hindu place names in the Grand Canyon is a forbidden zone - no one is allowed into this large area. We could only conclude that this was the area where the vaults were located. Yet today, this area is curiously off-limits to all hikers and even, in large part, park personnel.

I believe that the discerning reader will see that if only a small part of the "Smithsoniangate" evidence is true, then our most hallowed archaeological institution has been actively involved in suppressing evidence for advanced American cultures, evidence for ancient voyages of various cultures to North America, evidence for anomalistic giants and other oddball artefacts, and evidence that tends to disprove the official dogma that is now the history of North America.

The Smithsonian's Board of Regents still refuses to open its meetings to the news media or the public. If Americans were ever allowed inside the 'nation's attic', as the Smithsonian has been called, what skeletons might they find?

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from the front page of THE PHOENIX GAZETTE of April 5th, 1909 EXPLORATIONS IN GRAND CANYON

Mysteries of Immense Rich Cavern being brought to light

Jordan is enthused
Remarkable finds indicate ancient people migrated from Orient

The latest news of the progress of the explorations of what is now regarded by scientists as not only the oldest archeological discovery in the United States, but one of the most valuable in the world, which was mentioned some time ago in the Gazette, was brought to the city yesterday by G.E. Kinkaid, the explorer who found the great underground citadel of the Grand Canyon during a trip from Green River, Wyoming, down the Colorado, in a wooden boat, to Yuma, several months ago.

According to the story related to the Gazette by Mr. Kinkaid, the archaelogists of the Smithsonian Institute, which is financing the expeditions, have made discoveries which almost conclusively prove that the race which inhabited this mysterious cavern, hewn in solid rock by human hands, was of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt, tracing back to Ramses. If their theories are borne out by the translation of the tablets engraved with heiroglyphics, the mystery of the prehistoric peoples of North America, their ancient arts, who they were and whence they came, will be solved. Egypt and the Nile, and Arizona and the Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to ages which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist.

A Thorough Examination

Under the direction of Prof. S. A. Jordan, the Smithsonian Institute is now prosecuting the most thorough explorations, which will be continued until the last link in the chain is forged. Nearly a mile underground, about 1480 feet below the surface, the long main passage has been delved into, to find another mammoth chamber from which radiates scores of passageways, like the spokes of a wheel.

Several hundred rooms have been discovered, reached by passageways running from the main passage, one of them having been explored for 854 feet and another 634 feet. The recent finds include articles which have never been known as native to this country, and doubtless they had their origin in the orient. War weapons, copper instruments, sharp-edged and hard as steel, indicate the high state of civilization reached by these strange people. So interested have the scientists become that preparations are being made to equip the camp for extensive studies, and the force will be increased to thirty or forty persons.

Mr. Kinkaid's Report

Mr. Kinkaid was the first white child born in Idaho and has been an explorer and hunter all his life, thirty years having been in the service of the Smithsonian Institute. Even briefly recounted, his history sounds fabulous, almost grotesque.

"First, I would impress that the cavern is nearly inaccessible. The entrance is 1,486 feet down the sheer canyon wall. It is located on government land and no visitor will be allowed there under penalty of trespass. The scientists wish to work unmolested, without fear of archeological discoveries being disturbed by curio or relic hunters. A trip there would be fruitless, and the visitor would be sent on his way. The story of how I found the cavern has been related, but in a paragraph: I was journeying down the Colorado river in a boat, alone, looking for mineral. Some forty-two miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal canyon, I saw on the east wall, stains in the sedimentary formation about 2,000 feet above the river bed. There was no trail to this point, but I finally reached it with great difficulty.
Above a shelf which hid it from view from the river, was the mouth of the cave. There are steps leading from this entrance some thirty yards to what was, at the time the cavern was inhabited, the level of the river. When I saw the chisel marks on the wall inside the entrance, I became interested, securing my gun and went in. During that trip I went back several hundred feet along the main passage till I came to the crypt in which I discovered the mummies. One of these I stood up and photographed by flashlight. I gathered a number of relics, which I carried down the Colorado to Yuma, from whence I shipped them to Washington with details of the discovery. Following this, the explorations were undertaken.

The Passages

"The main passageway is about 12 feet wide, narrowing to nine feet toward the farther end. About 57 feet from the entrance, the first side-passages branch off to the right and left, along which, on both sides, are a number of rooms about the size of ordinary living rooms of today, though some are 30 by 40 feet square. These are entered by oval-shaped doors and are ventilated by round air spaces through the walls into the passages. The walls are about three feet six inches in thickness.

The passages are chiseled or hewn as straight as could be laid out by an engineer. The ceilings of many of the rooms converge to a center. The side-passages near the entrance run at a sharp angle from the main hall, but toward the rear they gradually reach a right angle in direction.

The Shrine

"Over a hundred feet from the entrance is the cross-hall, several hundred feet long, in which are found the idol, or image, of the people's god, sitting cross-legged, with a lotus flower or lily in each hand. The cast of the face is oriental, and the carving this cavern. The idol almost resembles Buddha, though the scientists are not certain as to what religious worship it represents. Taking into consideration everything found thus far, it is possible that this worship most resembles the ancient people of Tibet.

Surrounding this idol are smaller images, some very beautiful in form; others crooked-necked and distorted shapes, symbolical, probably, of good and evil. There are two large cactus with protruding arms, one on each side of the dais on which the god squats. All this is carved out of hard rock resembling marble. In the opposite corner of this cross-hall were found tools of all descriptions, made of copper. These people undoubtedly knew the lost art of hardening this metal, which has been sought by chemicals for centureis without result. On a bench running around the workroom was some charcoal and other material probably used in the process. There is also slag and stuff similar to matte, showing that these ancients smelted ores, but so far no trace of where or how this was done has been discovered, nor the origin of the ore.

"Among the other finds are vases or urns and cups of copper and gold, made very artistic in design. The pottery work includes enameled ware and glazed vessels. Another passageway leads to granaries such as are found in the oriental temples. They contain seeds of varous kinds. One very large storehouse has not yet been entered, as it is twelve feet high and can be reached only from above. Two copper hooks extend on the edge, which indicates that some sort of ladder was attached. These granaries are rounded, as the materials of which they are constructed, I think, is a ver hard cement. A gray metal is also found in this cavern, which puzzles the scientists, for its identity has not been established. It resembles platinum. Strewn promiscuously over the floor everywhere are what people call "cats eyse', a yellow stone of no great value. Each one is engraved with the head of the Malay type.

The Hieroglyphics

"On all the urns, or walls over doorways , and tablets of stone which were found by the image are the mysterious hieroglyphics, the key to which the Smithsonian Institute hopes yet to discover. The engraving on the tables probably has something to do with the religion of the people. Similar hieroglyphics have been found in southern Arizona. Among the pictorial writings, only two animals are found. One is of prehistoric type.

The Crypt

"The tomb or crypt in which the mummies were found is one of the largest of the chambers, the walls slanting back at an angle of about 35 degrees. On these are tiers of mummies, each one occupying a separate hewn shelf. At the head of each is a small bench, on which is found copper cups and pieces of broken swords. Some of the mummies are covered with clay, and all are wrapped in a bark fabric.

The urns or cups on the lower tiers are crude, while as the higher shelves are reached, the urns are finer in design, showing a later stage of civilization. It is worthy of note that all the mummies examined so far have proved to be male, no children or females being buried here. This leads to the belief that this exterior section was the warriors' barracks.

"Among the discoveries no bones of animals have been found, no skins, no clothing, no bedding. Many of the rooms are bare but for water vessels. One room, about 40 by 700 feet, was probably the main dining hall, for cooking utensils are found here. What these people lived on is a problem, though it is presumed that they came south in the winter and farmed in the valleys, going back north in the summer.

Upwards of 50,000 people could have lived in the caverns comfortably. One theory is that the present Indian tribes found in Arizona are descendants of the serfs or slaves of the people which inhabited the cave. Undoubtedly a good many thousands of years before the Christian era, a people lived here which reached a high stage of civilization. The chronology of human history is full of gaps. Professor Jordan is much enthused over the discoveries and believes that the find will prove of incalculable value in archeological work.

"One thing I have not spoken of, may be of interest. There is one chamber of the passageway to which is not ventilated, and when we approached it a deadly, snaky smell struck us. Our light would not penetrate the gloom, and until stronger ones are available we will not know what the chamber contains. Some say snakes, but other boo-hoo this idea and think it may contain a deadly gas or chemicals used by the ancients. No sounds are heard, but it smells snaky just the same. The whole underground installation gives one of shaky nerves the creeps. The gloom is like a weight on one's shoulders, and our flashlights and candles only make the darkness blacker. Imagination can revel in conjectures and ungodly daydreams back through the ages that have elapsed till the mind reels dizzily in space."

An Indian Legend

In connection with this story, it is notable that among the Hopi Indians the tradition is told that their ancestors once lived in an underworld in the Grand Canyon till dissension arose between the good and the bad, the people of one heart and the people of two hearts. Machetto, who was their chief, counseled them to leave the underworld, but there was no way out. The chief then caused a tree to grow up and pierce the roof of the underworld, and then the people of one heart climbed out. They tarried by Paisisvai (Red River), which is the Colorado, and grew grain and corn.

They sent out a message to the Temple of the Sun, asking the blessing of peace, good will and rain for people of one heart. That messenger never returned, but today at the Hopi villages at sundown can be seen the old men of the tribe out on the housetops gazing toward the sun, looking for the messenger. When he returns, their lands and ancient dwelling place will be restored to them. That is the tradition.

Among the engravings of animals in the cave is seen the image of a heart over the spot where it is located. The legend was learned by W.E. Rollins, the artist, during a year spent with the Hopi Indians.

There are two theories of the origin of the Egyptians. One is that they came from Asia; another that the racial cradle was in the upper Nile region. Heeren, an Egyptologist, believed in the Indian origin of the Egyptians. The discoveries in the Grand Canyon may throw further light on human evolution and prehistoric ages. bouncemirror.gif


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Posted: Jan 16 2005, 09:33 PM
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He gives a location

"The story of how I found the cavern has been related, but in a paragraph: I was journeying down the Colorado river in a boat, alone, looking for mineral. Some forty-two miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal canyon, I saw on the east wall, stains in the sedimentary formation about 2,000 feet above the river bed. There was no trail to this point, but I finally reached it with great difficulty.
Above a shelf which hid it from view from the river, was the mouth of the cave. There are steps leading from this entrance some thirty yards to what was, at the time the cavern was inhabited, the level of the river. When I saw the chisel marks on the wall inside the entrance, I became interested, securing my gun and went in. During that trip I went back several hundred feet along the main passage till I came to the crypt in which I discovered the mummies."

I did like the part about the "bark covered mummies"....

Certainly an aerial search by helicopter would cover the area, if minimal financing could be arranged.

Why is the area "off limits"
Seems like it would be tough to patrol,
I understand that you need special permits for going in these areas.
How restricted is it really?

Nonetheless, a wild story , a little too grand for my perceptions.
it sounded llike an attempt at publishing a book story,
where is the evidence of the newspaper article itself?
"from the front page of THE PHOENIX GAZETTE of April 5th, 1909 EXPLORATIONS IN GRAND CANYON "...


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Posted: Jan 16 2005, 09:36 PM
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Hey Buddha Bloke... LTNS!
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Check Ancient History section for this almost 100 year old report.

I even posted the 1909 news clipping article as well as giants found in the desert of America.

I will merge this thread with that one in the future. I like a nice organized forum. But I'll leave this thread here for now in case you get some feedback.




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Here is the link with the photo of the newspaper article

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/Canyon.html

here is a good debunk link

http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id8.html

Lost Civilizations Uncovered
Archaeological Coverup?

The belief in this lost Egyptian/Tibetan temple has consequences today. Ever since unorthodox researcher David Hatcher Childress published the newspaper hoax as fact in his book Lost Cities of North and Central America, the story took on the trappings of truth, without regard for actual facts. In his web article about maverick archaeologist John Ora Kinnaman's attempts in the 1950s to prove a 35,000-year-old date for the Great Pyramid, Stephen Mehler writes:

"By virtue of the huge crystal stored in a chamber 1,100 feet below the bedrock of the Giza Plateau, Egyptian priests could send telepathic messages around the world! According to [Dr. Albert J.] McDonald, one of the places Dr. Kinnaman said these messages were sent was the Grand Canyon! Dr. Kinnaman may have known about the find in the Grand Canyon in 1909 and even known Professor S.A. Jordan, but we have no documentation of this as of yet."



Yet there is evidence that the story does not hold up.
***There once was a Prof. S. A. Jordon,
with an 'o' not an 'a', but this Jordon was a European archaeologist, not an American one. Jordon did not work the Grand Canyon. On the Cyber Space Orbit website, John Winston comments:

"Several professional inquiries into this matter ten years ago made it clear that to Smithsonian authorities, this was indeed a hoax, and that the fact there is no record of any Professor S. A. Jordan ever existing, or ever being associated with the Smithsonian."

He then paradoxically cites the existence of Prof. Jordon as proof of a Smithsonian cover-up of the information in the Gazette article. More likely is the idea that Jordan with an 'a' never existed.

As for the Smithsonian itself, when asked by Peter Hay of the Sightings website, a representative for the Institution had the following comment:

"From: Smithsonian Information <Info@info.si.edu To: <pmh@direct.ca Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Fw: SIGHTINGS

"Peter Hay

"Your e-mail of January 11 has been received.

"The Smithsonian Institution has received many questions about an article in the April 5, 1909 Phoenix Gazette about G. E. Kincaid and his discovery of a 'great underground citadel' in the Grand Canyon, hewn by an ancient race 'of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt.' According to the article, Prof. Jordan directed a major investigation of the 'citadel' that was mounted by the Smithsonian.

"The Smithsonian's Department of Anthropology, has searched its files without finding any mention of a Professor Jordan, Kincaid, or a lost Egyptian civilization in Arizona. Nevertheless, the story continues to be repeated in books and articles.

"We appreciate your interest in the Smithsonian Institution."


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Posted: Jan 16 2005, 10:10 PM
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Here is the link with the photo of the newspaper article

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/Canyon.html


Yes, that is the exact same news article/image I have posted on the original thread I mentioned above.

I do not like going to geocities pages or tripod. Way too many IP connections, cookies etc.

Here's the original thread
http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3234

...and here's the 1909 Gazette newspaper clipping image I uploaded several months ago.

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You will find the transcribed text of that article in the thread as well as other strange information of alleged discoveries.




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Posted: Jan 16 2005, 10:16 PM
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Also, I'd like to note that anything the Smithsonian Institution has said should be treated with care.

I do NOT trust that organization.

They, along with the Vatican have ensured that ONLY information that fulfills their ideologies has been allowed to make it in the mainstream public eye.

Giants, horned humans, conehead skulls, dbl rows of teeth and so much more have all been found in the Americas.

The American natives were quite aware of the giant cannibals and were at war with them at various times.




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