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> Taser used on 6 yr old boy and 9 yr old girl, ARCHIVES: TASER AND STUN GUN USE


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Posted: May 26 2004, 05:58 AM
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Officer's Taser is used on 9 yr old girl

A veteran South Tucson police sergeant is under investigation for firing his stun gun to subdue a handcuffed 9-year-old girl.

At the request of Chief Sixto Molina, the Pima County Sheriff's Department is trying to determine if the sergeant committed a crime when he sent a jolt through the child's body.

The police officer used a Taser on the girl at about 5:30 p.m. May 8, Molina said. The nonlethal weapon uses a pulsating electrical charge to immobilize a person for several seconds.

"I'll be the first to admit, you've got a veteran sergeant Tasing a 9-year-old girl, it doesn't look good," said Molina.

The sergeant was one of at least two officers who responded to a call from the Arizona Children's Home, a school for special needs children, on South Eighth Avenue, he said.

"It had to do with a runaway from the institution," the chief said. He declined to provide further details.

The school could not be reached for comment late Monday. But Molina said that the facility is the source of frequent calls to his 25-person department.

Molina said one officer initially responded to the call from the school. That officer requested assistance from another officer and specifically asked that the second officer bring a Taser.

He said the girl was handcuffed at the time the weapon was used.

The sergeant who used the hand-held Taser remains on duty. His name is not being released while the investigation is under way.

"It didn't involve an integrity issue," Molina said. "The officer made a decision to do what he thought he needed to do."

Deputy Dawn Barkman, a spokeswoman with the Sheriff's Department, confirmed a review of the incident is under way but said she had no further details.

The results of the probe will be forwarded to the Pima County Attorney's Office.

"They'll have to present it to us to see if any criminal charges are warranted," said County Attorney's Office spokesman Dan Benavides.

Sgt. Dan Snyder, a South Tucson police spokesman, said the investigation could be complete by the end of the week. 

http://www.fox11az.com/news/local/stories/....1f8073c21.html

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"It didn't involve an integrity issue," Molina said. "The officer made a decision to do what he thought he needed to do."

Tasing a 9 year old child that was HANDCUFFED was NOT an integrity issue? He felt he NEEDED to tase this handcuffed child? WTF!!!

This Sadistic freak is still on duty?

What the HELL are these people thinking?? He's a danger to society and obviously to small children!!

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*** I wonder what department procedure is on that. I bet the dept's legal team are pulling their hair out!!


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These beings love to torture... it's in their blood.



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"But Molina said that the facility is the source of frequent calls to his 25-person department."

Frequent calls from that "Arizona Children's Home, a school for special needs children..."

Maybe that children's home needs to be investigated!

As for the taser being used on the 9 year-old girl, maybe it was the last resort. The little one may have been kicking, biting, screaming even in handcuffs. You would think that two grown cops could have subdued her, but we weren't there.

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If that was my child, that cop would be toast. mad.gif The police policy there is to use the minimal amount of force necessary and proportionate to the threat to gain control of a situation and a handcuffed 9 year old girl is considered to be a minimal threat. The South Tucson Police policy specifically bars the use use of a taser on someone who is restrained and so, therefor, the officer violated police policy when he zapped the girl and he should immediately be prosecuted.

I did a little research and it seems that Tasers are not as safe as people think them to be and may be responsible for the deaths of at least 5 people.

Taser safety claim questioned

Michael Chow/The Arizona Republic

Medical examiners connect stun gun to 5 deaths

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The Republic's review of autopsies and interviews with medical examiners found Tasers have been linked to at least five deaths.

Medical examiners in three cases involving suspects who died in police custody cited Tasers as a cause or a contributing factor in the deaths. In two other cases, Tasers could not be ruled out as a cause of death.


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The Republic, using computer searches, media accounts, police reports and Taser's own records, identified 44 cases in the United States and Canada of death following a police Taser strike from September 1999 to March 2004.


http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/n...ser-main18.html

And here's another article that I found and it seems that police in California have been zapping restrained people way too many times.

King/Drew Medical Center Could Lose Federal Funding Over Use of Tasers on Some Psychiatric Patients

June 7, 2004

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CMS inspectors said Thursday that Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center could lose federal funding if it does not develop within 23 days new policies to subdue aggressive psychiatric patients that reduce the use of Taser stun guns, the Los Angeles Times reports. State inspectors two years ago cited King/Drew for allowing county police to use Tasers to subdue such psychiatric patients without instituting formal guidelines for their use. King/Drew officials prohibited the use of Tasers following that citation, but Los Angeles County officials in March 2003 reversed that ban after finding that Tasers could be a "useful tool, but that police needed additional training," the Times reports. Medicare and Medicaid funding account for more than half of King/Drew's $350 million annual budget, according to the Times. Steven Chickering, a manager for the San Francisco CMS office, said that King/Drew staff used county police to subdue aggressive psychiatric patients with jolts of electricity and handcuffs too often, instead of trying less extreme methods.


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Thanks, Seralia, for clarifying this Taser business.

" The South Tucson Police policy specifically bars the use use of a taser on someone who is restrained..."

"Medical examiners connect stun gun to 5 deaths."

That little 9-year-old girl's life was put at risk, so prosecuting the cop who used the Taser on her would be just. Maybe using it on him would be more just!

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Police use stun gun on 6-year-old

Officials: "Child was cutting himself with glass"

MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- Police used a stun gun on a 6-year-old boy in his principal´s office because he was wielding a piece of glass and threatening to hurt himself, officials said Thursday.

The boy, who was not identified, was shocked with 50,000 volts on October 20 at Kelsey Pharr Elementary School.

Principal Maria Mason called 911 after the child broke a picture frame in her office and waved a piece of glass, holding a security guard back.

When two Miami-Dade County police officers and a school officer arrived, the boy had already cut himself under his eye and on his hand.

The officers talked to the boy without success. When the boy cut his own leg, one officer shocked him with a Taser and another grabbed him to prevent him from falling, police said.

He was treated and taken to a hospital, where he was committed for psychiatric evaluation.

"By using the Taser, we were able to stop the situation, stop him from hurting himself," police spokesman Juan DelCastillo told The Miami Herald.

The case was under review.

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That's one pathetic story! It took 2 policemen to bring down a little 6-year-old kid, armed with a piece of glass. And with a taser, no less. So much for the "fearless" men in blue. I'm pretty sure had they called the child's mother, she would have disarmed that kid in a heartbeat.

Maybe they should have called out the SWAT team.

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SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Some Utah fans are upset that police responsible for security at the Fiesta Bowl used 50,000-volt electric devices to zap fans trying to storm the field after the win.
 
Arizona State University spokesman Keith Jennings said the use of the weapons was in line with the department's use-of-force policy.
 
That policy allows officers to use electronic incapacitators anytime a subject is involved in a physical altercation with an officer.
 
Jennings said two individuals were arrested for scuffling with officers immediately after the game, but he told The Salt Lake Tribune he wasn't sure whether either was among the estimated 24 who were shocked by the devices after Utah's 35-7 win over Pittsburgh in Saturday's Fiesta Bowl.
 
The officers used the weapons at the Sun Devil Stadium in part "to protect the goal posts and the field" for an NFL game scheduled the following day, Jennings said.
 
"It was justifiable," he said. "They were also trying to protect people, if they go down to the field and knock over the goal post, that sort of thing, we're liable if someone gets hurt. ... We just wanted to force them back into the stands."
 
University of Utah Police Chief Scott Folsom questioned the necessity of shocking the fans, who were attempting to enter the field after being beckoned by several Ute football players.
 
Folsom, who traveled to Tempe for the bowl game, didn't see the incident. But he said he did see the throng of fans pressing against a fence on the north end zone, trying to enter the field.
 
He said his department, responsible for providing security at Utah home games, probably would not use electric force in a similar situation.
 
"If you had a person who was seriously disruptive in that crowd, you might use a Taser to bring that person into custody so you could deal with them," said Folsom, whose officers carry the devices at Ute games. "You certainly wouldn't 'Tase' people indiscriminately hoping to move an entire crowd back."
 
But 16-year-old Chris Mogren said he was pressed up against a 6-foot-high cyclone fence when he was shocked in the arm. It happened when he and a throng of Ute revelers were trying to enter the field.
 
The officers stunned "whoever was up against the fence," he said.
 
Mogren said he saw 10 to 15 other Utah fans get shocked.
 
"We weren't trying to break anything, or to tear down the goal posts or destroy the field," he said. "We just wanted to be over by the team."
 
The ASU Police Department maintains that anyone who was shocked must have been actively fighting with officers, per the department's policy, Jennings said.
 
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"It was justifiable," he said. "They were also trying to protect people, if they go down to the field and knock over the goal post, that sort of thing, we're liable if someone gets hurt. ... We just wanted to force them back into the stands."


OK... So who's liable if one of the fans dies as the result of being zapped by a taser? angryNEW.gif


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Or shot in the eyeball with a pepper ball and killed like the recent Red Sox fan. Who's responsible?

The city? The local police? Politicians?

All of the above.

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I've come to the conclusion that the biggest threat to TPTB comes from the fans. As long as they are helplessly entertained by breads and circus's, TPTB can do almost anything they want.

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Feds Probing Stun Gun Claims

(AP) Federal authorities have launched an inquiry into claims Taser International Inc. has made about safety studies for its stun guns. Its shares plunged more than 14 percent after Taser announced the probe.

The Securities and Exchange Commission also is looking into a $1.5 million, end-of-year sale of stun guns by Taser International to a Prescott firearms distributor that some stock analysts have questioned because it appears to inflate sales to meet annual projections.

"We're confident that this is going to come out in our favor," Taser's president Tom Smith said late Thursday in announcing that it was cooperating with the SEC informal inquiry. An informal inquiry is a step below a formal investigation, where regulators have subpoena power.

Smith added that the Scottsdale-based company stands by its safety statements and the recent sale.

In morning trading Friday on the Nasdaq Stock Market, Taser shares were down $3.94 to $23.68. They traded as high as $33.45 a share just last month.

Recent investigations by several newspapers have raised serious questions about the stun gun's safety record and about Taser's reports to shareholders.

Although Taser has repeatedly said its stun guns have never caused a death or serious injury, reports in The Arizona Republic have linked the stun gun to 11 deaths and to several injuries involving police officers.

"We feel very confident that the statements that we've made surrounding the safety of our products are supported with the safety studies," Smith said.

However, questions about safety have already caused some police departments around the country to back off purchases of Tasers.

Some medical experts believe Taser shocks may exacerbate a risk of heart failure in cases where people are agitated, under the influence of drugs or have underlying health problems. Human rights advocates want law enforcement to stop using Tasers until scientific evidence can show they don't kill.

Last week, a Scottsdale investment analyst raised questions about the sale of 1,000 new consumer stun guns and other products to the distributor Davidson's Inc. that Taser announced on Dec. 20.

"It's a deal that could maybe make a quarter," said Rob Miceli, analyst with the Scottsdale firm Gradient Analytics Inc. "Anytime we see something like that it bears further investigation."

Davidson's has done business with Taser since 1999 and company CEO Bryan Tucker said there was no pressure from Taser executives to complete the deal before Taser's quarter and year end.

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Police officers to carry Tasers in schools

JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Jan. 7 (UPI) -- Police patrolling Jacksonville, Fla., middle and high schools will be armed with Taser stun guns in addition to their regular guns, batons and pepper spray.

The Duval County Sheriff's resource officer will be authorized to shock anyone including students if they resist arrest or demonstrate a threat, the Jacksonville Times-Union reported.

"It's just another tool," said Rick Lewis, director of personnel and professional standards in the sheriff's department.

The weapons fire electrified barbs that can shoot up to 21 feet and shock suspects with 50,000 volts of electricity.

Police say Tasers are one of the safest weapons to subdue a suspect and saves the lives of both suspects and police. Critics say, however, Tasers have resulted in the deaths of some suspects.

School officials said the announcement took them by surprise. School Board members Brenda Priestly Jackson and Kris Barnes said they opposed the plan.

"Can't a couple of adults take down a child?" Barnes asked.

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UCSF doctor says jolt can interrupt pumping of blood

When 50,000 volts of electricity from a Taser surge across the body, it can instantly incapacitate a person -- more safely than a blow from a police baton or a blast of pepper spray, its manufacturer contends.

But cardiologists are concerned that, in certain cases, the device might also interrupt the rhythm of the human heart, throwing it into a potentially fatal chaotic state known as ventricular fibrillation.

Rather than pump blood in sequence through its four chambers, a heart in ventricular fibrillation writhes uncontrollably, wiggling like a bag of worms. It is a common cause of sudden death.

Dr. Zian Tseng, a cardiologist at UCSF, believes Tasers are potentially dangerous because a jolt of electricity, at just the right moment in the heartbeat cycle, can trigger ventricular fibrillation.

He ought to know. He uses a precisely timed jolt to throw the hearts of his patients into ventricular fibrillation on a regular basis.

Tseng installs implantable electric defibrillators into the chests of heart patients who are at risk of sudden cardiac arrest. The devices are miniature versions of the electric paddles used to jolt a stalled heart back into its proper rhythm. Vice President Dick Cheney is the most prominent American with such a device implanted in his chest.

Before Tseng can wheel a patient out of the operating room, he must test the new defibrillator by stopping the heart, and watching to see if the life- saving implant does its job.

"There are vulnerable periods in the cardiac cycle, when shocks can cause dangerous arrhythmias,'' Tseng said.

Known as a T-wave on the heart monitor, the brief pause in pumping takes up about 3 percent of a heartbeat's cycle. Tseng times his jolt of electricity for that moment, to stop a heart, so the defibrillator can automatically start it again.

People using Tasers, he said, risk jolting a person at precisely the wrong instant. "I think they are dangerous,'' he said. "If you are shocking someone repeatedly, it becomes a bit like Russian roulette. At some point, you may hit that vulnerable period."

Cardiologists also know that the window in which a jolt of electricity can halt a heart expands significantly when a patient is treated with certain drugs, or when the body is flooded with the fear hormone, adrenaline. Patients with underlying heart problems are also more vulnerable to the condition.

Executives at Taser International are aware of the heart's vulnerability to ventricular fibrillation, but they insist their device is safe. The electrical current used in an operating room to stop a heart is 30 times higher than that produced by a Taser, said Mark Kroll, an electrical engineer and board member of the Scottsdale, Ariz., firm. Medically induced fibrillation involves applying a current directly to the inside of the heart, he added, while a Taser's current is applied to the clothing and skin.

"The current delivered by a Taser is too weak to induce ventricular fibrillation,'' he said.

Kroll acknowledged that adrenaline does increase vulnerability to ventricular fibrillation, and that many subjects facing police arrest are pumped up with the hormone. But he said there is no evidence it lowers the threshold to a point that would make Tasers dangerous.

"If anything, a Taser is reducing deaths," Kroll said. "Many subjects are in a terminal stage of a drug overdose. The quicker police can get them under control, the quicker they can get medical help."

UCSF cardiologist Tseng said that, as a precaution, police should carry automatic electronic defibrillators in their cars, so they might revive someone whose heart has been stopped.

And while Kroll said Tasers are not responsible for stopping hearts, he agreed with Tseng on that point: "I think cops should carry defibrillators anyway.''


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