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Pentagon Prepares To Build $130bn Robot Army
By Francis Harris in Washington
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The Pentagon is spending £70 billion [$130 billion] on a programme to build heavily-armed robots for the battlefield in the hope that future wars will be fought without the loss of its soldiers' lives.
 
The scheme, known as Future Combat Systems, is the largest military contract in American history and will help to drive the defence budget up by almost 20 per cent to just over £265 billion [$500 billion] in five years' time.
 
Much of the cash will be spent computerising the military, but the ultimate aim is to take members of the armed forces out of harm's way. They would be replaced by robots capable of hunting and killing America's enemies.
 
Gordon Johnson, of the US joint forces research centre, told the New York Times: "The American military will have these kinds of robots. It's not a question of 'if', it's a question of 'when'."
 
The American military is already planning units of about 2,000 men and 150 robots, among them land-based "infantry" devices and drone aircraft.
 
In the far future it is hoped that the miniaturised robots will walk like humans, or hover like some birds. Others may look like insects.
 
Scientists say that, working at full tilt, the process is likely to take at least 20 years.
 
Robert Finkelstein, the head of one development firm called Robotic Technologies, said the Pentagon has established the goal "but the path is not totally clear".
 
In the meantime, the military is developing simpler technologies.
 
The US military has already bought a tracked robot which can enter highly risky sites such as cave complexes favoured by al-Qa'eda.
 
The machines have been deployed in Afghanistan's caves, digging up roadside bombs in Iraq and guarding weapons storage sites.
 
The Swords robots come in several versions, carrying either a machine gun, grenade launcher or a light anti-tank weapon.
 
It is controlled by a soldier from a distance of up to 1,000 yards.
 
"We were sitting there firing single rounds and smacking bull's-eyes," said Staff Sergeant Santiago Tordillos, who helped to design and test the robot. "We were completely amazed."
 
That human involvement has proved critical in convincing military lawyers that machines can be used on the battlefield. More advanced machines which can decide whether to kill would also be legal, said Mr Johnson.
 
"The lawyers tell me there are no prohibitions against robots making life-or-death decisions," he said.
 
The programme is already causing other nations to reassess their military priorities. Britain's Armed Forces in particular will need to follow the American lead if only because the two militaries fight together so often.
 
While the cost of the scheme is huge, it may ultimately save large sums of money. Professional soldiers, their dependants and pensions are pricey. Once robotic technology is developed, the Americans say, the cost of a robot soldier might be only 10 per cent that of its human counterpart.
 
A US navy research centre in San Diego has already produced a robot built to look like a human. At 4ft high, it has a gun on its right arm and a single eye and could shoot at a target.
 
One researcher, Jeff Grossman, said the intelligence of the machines was increasing. "Now, maybe, we're a mammal. We're trying to get to the level of a primate."
 
When researchers succeed, a number of troubling moral dilemmas will have to be addressed. Some in the American computer business are asking whether it is acceptable to have machines decide for themselves whether to take human life and what will happen when, inevitably, the robot makes a mistake.
 
Bill Joy, who helped to found Sun Microsystems, said 21st century machines could become "so powerful that they can spawn whole new classes of accidents and abuses".
 
* The US navy is to name its newest £1.3 billion hi-tech submarine the USS Jimmy Carter, in honour of the former president and Nobel Peace Prize winner.
 
Mr Carter, the only president to have served as a submariner, will attend the launching ceremony for the 12,000 ton, 450ft vessel at the submarine base of New London on Saturday, with Rosalynn, his wife.
 
© Copyright of Telegraph Group Limited 2005. 

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Hi PuPP

we have a walking robot
then we have a robot that runs on protien
( WE are made of protien!)
then we have a running robot that can climb stairs. (and swim, and fly)
then we have a robot which is waysmart because its on a wireless net...
robogoogle....
then we have a robot that shoots bullseyes....

and the rep/illuminatti/bloodlines have their perfect mind control slaves...

garbage in - garbage out.


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I hear ya Dan... I'd NEVER allow THEM to build robot mercenaries if I was King.

Robot defenders, yes, but not robot killers.




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What's new? Present day soldiers are mindless programmed robots already. stormtrooper.gif


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Posted: Feb 19 2005, 02:28 PM
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What's new? Present day soldiers are mindless programmed robots already. stormtrooper.gif

True, but occasionally, some of them break free of said programming...




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Posted: Feb 19 2005, 09:59 PM
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There aint no leash on me.

No collar.

I dont 'shake paws'.

I dont catch frisbies.

I am undomesticated.



And that makes this $ociety a dangerous place for me.

They want loyal obedient dogs.

Wolves are a threat to their...'livestock'...


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Posted: Feb 26 2005, 09:37 PM
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Remote Control Rodent
'Ratbots' Pass First Tests
A woman standing on a table, clutching a broom and screaming,
"it's a rat!" has become a cliché image in our society. But what
if that live rat was directed via remote control like something
out of a bad science fiction movie?

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By Mike Finch
2-25-5

Researchers at SUNY Downstate Medical Center, Brooklyn N.Y., have developed technology that allows them to control a rat's actions from up to 600 yards away with implants placed in its brain.

Rats can be made to run, jump or climb, following instructions they receive by radio from a laptop computer. Clacking keys on a computer send these "ratbots" climbing trees, winding through mazes, or searching through building rubble.

The remote control rats look like school children, wearing small backpacks that house microprocessor-based remote-controlled stimulators. Wires connect the backpack to tiny probes that have been placed into areas of the rat's brain that are responsible for reward and areas that process signals from their whiskers. The rats are controlled by manipulating these two areas of the brain.

Remote-control rats are weird enough. But even stranger is the possibility that the technology could eventually find its way into humans.

"Our discovery grew out of ongoing research into the development of thought-controlled prosthetic devices for spinal chord injury," said John K. Chapin, Ph.D., research partner of Sanjiv Talwar, M.D., Ph.D.

The brain implants have already enabled rats to move robotic arms by thought alone.

With testing being done on primates, some worry that this technology could eventually be used to control humans.

"Could it be used, Big Brother-style, to control human behavior, consumer spending, or even worker productivity?" asked the Humane Society in a recent article.

"What if some future implant, billed as a medical miracle, was also secretly encoded to direct thought, getting a person to think like Big Brother, or to work harder for managers at corporate control, or to follow the orders of Mephistopheles?" asked The Boston Globe in a recent editorial. "What if Madison Avenue got a piece of the supposed beneficial chip to direct the consumer to buy the expensive spread or the new cereal?"

The research is being funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects agency, an experimental subdivision of the U.S. military.

Right now, researchers hope this technology could assist in "search and rescue" efforts by way of remote rat to find humans in rubble, identify landmines and other critical uses, though outsiders worry that these rats could be used for intelligence purposes, or even to carry explosives into restricted areas.

The rats would be much more adept at navigating over rough terrain than robots, and could navigate through chaotic situations with ease.

"The rat has rather sophisticated navigational skills," said Dr. Chapin, "It makes sense to make good use of the animal's abilities."

"A search-and-rescue dog costs $60,000 dollars a year to maintain, and you cannot use them in very tight spaces," said Dr. Chapin, "nor could you use a dog to discover land mines, since the weight of the animal would detonate the explosive. A rat, however, being small and light, could sit on the mine without exploding it, making it possible to identify its location and dispose of it safely."

This kind of experimentation is not alone. Miguel Nicolelis of Duke University is conducting collaborative studies with monkeys by putting implants in their brains that allow them to control robotic arms. Also, Yale physiologist Jose Delgado partially controlled a bull by way of a brain implant. And Northwestern University researchers made a two-wheeled robotthat was partially controlled by a lamprey eel brain.

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The next time you take a swat at a pesky flying insect, you might want to take a closer look. A new generation of bug-sized robots is being developed by the military, and soon enough they will be in the private sector too.

Felder said, "There's a whole family of small UAVs evolving at DARPA and the labs. They're exploring very tiny, extremely tiny insect sized and some of those tiny contraptions might already be flying in Nevada.

Citizen watchdog Chuck Clark thinks the security around the Area 51 military base has heightened recently because of robo-bugs. "... flies close to the ground, the size of a model airplane, maybe even insect sized."

According to published reports, one micro bot in development will imitate the flying motion of dragonflies. NASA has said that its working on UAVs that are not only the same size as bees, but will even fly and navigate just like bees. Such robo gadgets could be used to explore the harsh surface of Mars, or other worlds, and perform maintenance duties on the exteriors of space ships during long missions. Closer to home, UAVs could eventually be used to patrol our borders or for homeland security.

"What they provide is persistence. They have the capability to stare for a long time. Over one frigging building to take one guy out or to follow to a nest, or on a coastline, what's coming in, what's going out," Col. Felder explained.

You've got to figure that law enforcement agencies will want their own UAVs at some point for criminal surveillance. And there will be commercial uses too. Already in Japan, something like the Predator has been adapted to work as a crop duster.


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