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  Posted: Nov 30 2006, 12:59 AM
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Hi Blue Eyed, we've had an arctic chill roll in and I finally had to fire up the gas wall heater.

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Posted: Nov 30 2006, 01:01 AM
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More news from my country:

Nowegians still aren't embracing the thought of EU membership jam.gif

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Fewer want to join EU - More Norwegians are saying "no" when asked whether they think their country should join the European Union.
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1547557.ece

There's no referendum in sight on the issue of EU membership, and politicians aren't taking it up. Nonetheless, public opinion polls are routinely conducted to check the pulse of the people, who have narrowly rejected EU membership twice before.

The latest poll, taken by research firm Norstat for Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK), showed 48.3 percent of those questioned saying they don't want Norway to join the EU. Another 41.3 percent was in favour of EU membership.

The "no" side was up 2.9 percentage points. NRK reported that a likely reason was recent outcry over an EU directive on services, which some Norwegians feel will lead to social dumping since it would allow a free flow of services over European borders.

A rejection of the directive by Norway would likely endanger its entire economic cooperation agreement with the EU through the European Economic Area (EEA), of which Norway is a member. Norway's cooperation in the EEA gives it most of the same advantages and obligations of EU nations, even though Norway isn't an EU member.

In practice, that means that EU regulations generally are observed by Norway as well.



In fact our new license plates made some people see red....

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Anti-EU folks won't accept new license plates
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1549390.ece

Some Norwegians' opposition to the EU knows no limits. The most determined among them are now refusing to use Norway's new license plates, saying the plates' design too closely resembles EU plates.
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The new license plates were introduced in early November, and it didn't take long for some anti-EU folks to reject them.

"Already on the very first day we had a customer who refused to drive with the flag on the license plate," said Olav Aalbu of the state traffic station i Trondheim. "He was a hard-core EU opponent who viewed the new plates...as an EU decree."

Others have claimed the plates' new flag and "N" for Norway, set on a blue background on the plates' left side, makes them look like the license plates on cars registered in EU countries. They also have a blue field, with the country's identifying initial circled in the EU's ring of yellow stars.

Norway, which is not a member of the EU, doesn't use the EU ring, but that's no consolation for the opponents.

Those motorists who won't accept the new plates are being offered white stickers that they can paste over the entire blue area. If they drive their cars out of Norway, though, they'll have to display an "N" for Norway in some other visible way



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Posted: Nov 30 2006, 01:10 AM
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Hi Blue Eyed, we've had an arctic chill roll in and I finally had to fire up the gas wall heater.

Brrrr....chillllllll



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We haven't fired up all the electric ovens/heathers yet here... moneyflip.gif that's good because the prices of electricity have been really expensive this autumn because of little rain in the summer.

Now it's been raining a lot for 5-6 weeks so prices are down.


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Norway's next energy boom
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1553378.ece

With Norway's petroleum era beginning to wind down, attention is being turned to the potential of thorium as the next power adventure for the country.
The European research center for particle physics, CERN, has been working on the details of building a nuclear power plant based on the element thorium for years, and believes the theoretical problems are solved.

"What is needed now is political will and, not least, money," said Professor Jon Petter Omtvedt at the Institute for Nuclear Chemistry at the University of Oslo. "A prototype thorium power plant must be built before they can be built on a commercial basis. The day that thorium based power plants can be built on a commercial basis will revolutionize the world's power supply. Norway, one of the world's leading energy nations, should take on this task," Omtvedt said.

Thorium is more abundant than uranium, produces less waste and cannot melt down.


Pressing arguments
Omtvedt said that CERN research concludes that such a plant is possible, all that remains is to actually build the prototype. There are two powerful arguments for Norway taking the next step; Norway has the financial resources and is an energy nation that should be looking to find a safe and CO2-free new source.

Omtvedt sees a need to import scientists since Norway has neglected the development of domestic nuclear physicists in recent years, and with greenhouse gas emissions a growing problem, he wants the project started quickly.

It will work
Professor Egil Lillestøl at the University of Bergen has links to CERN, and is another proponent of thorium. Lillestøl told Aftenposten that Norway should exploit its position as a non-European Union member, arguing that the EU leans too heavily towards developing existing uranium-based reactors and so are not interested in novel, competing technology.

Lillestøl wants Norway's parliament to guarantee a prototype project, with a goal of a prototype being built in about ten years, after a study period of two to three years. Lillestøl envisages a prototype ready around the year 2020, with a cost of about NOK 5 billion (USD 805 million).

"There is no doubt that this will work. What we don't know exactly before we build the prototype is how much energy it will produce. We might get ten percent less than we expect from the beginning," Lillestøl said.

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Environmental group Bellona remains a prominent skeptic to thorium-based energy in Norway. Nuclear physicist and Bellona member Nils Bøhmer believes that CERN researchers still have some issues to solve, primarily the question of corrosion problems that will occur when lead, which is a part of the process, is heated to 700C.

The problem of disposal of thorium waste is another thorny point, and the use of uranium-233, part of the production process in a thorium reactor, which can be used in nuclear weapon production is another troubling aspect according to Bøhmer.

"So to solve the problem with carbon dioxide emissions the world should instead bank on renewable energy sources alongside CO2 storage in connection with the production of fossil fuels," Bøhmer said.

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Lillestøl told Aftenposten that Norway should exploit its position as a non-European Union member, arguing that the EU leans too heavily towards developing existing uranium-based reactors and so are not interested in novel, competing technology


How far will EU go to try to stop Norway from building this prototype?
That's an interesting question!

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Hei! I saw Washington Post has picked up on our “dear” Mullah Krekar (Najumuddin Faraj Ahmad )… a terrorist protected by the Norwegian Government. Also Actually he’s protected by both right-winged and left-winged politicians! The majority of the Norwegian people want him OUT of the country. He has made the headlines more than once in the news in Norway – talking about the greatness of Bin-Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi among other things. He’s the founder of Ansar al-Islam, and has 'secretly'visited the region close to the Iranian border - at the same time as he claims that it's to dangerous for him to return!

Why the Norwegians don’t want him here? One important thing is that it makes other terrorists think that this is a great country to hide in! Just look of some of the headlines from the news:

14 12 2005
Terror suspects were headed to Oslo
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1179272.ece
Two of the three Algerians arrested on terrorism charges in Italy in November were headed back to Norway, according to the chief investigator.
"We believe that the three Algerians see Norway as a calm and safe place to stay," chief Naples court

17 11 2005
More hidden terrorists in Norway
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1158783.ece
The Algerians arrested in Italy are not the only potential terrorists in Norway, security forces said Thursday.
"We know that there are persons in Norway today that can be linked to the terrorist network abroad," Martin Bernsen, information adviser at the Norwegian Police Security Service (PST) told Aftenposten.no.
The PST will not disclose how many persons they are referring to, or how many different nationalities are involved.



Here's part of the article from Washinton post:

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The CIA and The Militant Who Eluded It in Norway
OSLO -- Two months after he helped kidnap a Muslim cleric in Italy, records show, an undercover CIA officer boarded a flight to Norway on another secret mission. Two other U.S. spies followed a few weeks later and checked into the same hotel.
Shortly after the agents arrived in the spring of 2003, an Islamic militant living in Oslo known as Mullah Krekar received a warning from an anonymous Norwegian official, according to Krekar's lawyer. The message: Krekar, then head of a Kurdish insurgent group, was a CIA target and should watch his back.

The spies left Norway by the end of the summer, according to records of their travels compiled by European investigators. If the CIA was planning to abduct Krekar, like other Islamic radicals it had secretly apprehended in Europe after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, those plans were quietly abandoned.


But it would not be the first or last time that the U.S. government had sought to push Krekar out of Norway. For more than a decade, the Kurdish cleric had enjoyed protection in the Nordic country as a political refugee, even as he frequently slipped back into his homeland in northern Iraq to lead an armed separatist movement called Ansar al-Islam, which has carried out attacks on civilians and U.S. troops.

The case shows how the United States has struggled to deal with Islamic militants who are allowed to live freely in Europe despite being labeled serious security risks. Others have included radical clerics in London and supporters of the Hamburg cell responsible for the Sept. 11 hijackings.

But the pursuit of Krekar also demonstrates how U.S. tactics in confronting those militants have sometimes backfired, giving ammunition to critics who accuse the Bush administration of skirting the law or relying on questionable evidence.
Before the invasion of Iraq, the U.S. government publicly portrayed Krekar and his network as an organizational link between al-Qaeda and the government of Saddam Hussein. Under pressure to prove that connection, the United States tried a variety of tactics to forcibly remove Krekar from Norway and hand him over to friendly security services in the Middle East.
Each attempt failed. Today, although the Norwegian government has declared Krekar a security threat and ordered him deported, the mullah is still in Oslo.

Most evidence against him remains classified. But other charges have been refuted in court or publicly discredited, including allegations by U.S. and Iraqi officials that Krekar ordered followers to carry out suicide bombings and that Ansar controlled a chemical weapons factory.
"At first, I didn't think I had done anything that was a threat to the Americans," Krekar said in an interview. "Later, some people told me I had become a target, but I didn't think the Americans would come for me themselves. They wanted to use me, to show that there was a link between Saddam and al-Qaeda."
The intense U.S. interest in Krekar came at a time when the CIA was targeting other Islamic radicals in Europe for "extraordinary rendition," the clandestine practice of seizing terrorism suspects and transferring them to allied nations that sometimes practice torture. Among suspects grabbed by the CIA: a Muslim cleric in Milan, two Arabs living in Stockholm and two others from Germany.

The CIA and the U.S. Embassy in Norway declined to comment on whether Krekar was a rendition target. In a prepared statement for this article, State Department deputy spokesman Tom Casey said, "The United States continues to consider Krekar to be a threat to national security, and we think the same with respect to Ansar al-Islam."

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Krekar hasn't always been an enemy of the United States. He fled northern Iraq in 1990 and received asylum in Norway after claiming he had been persecuted by Saddam Hussein's security services.

After the Persian Gulf War of 1991, he returned for long visits to his Kurdish homeland, which was under the protection of U.S. warplanes maintaining a "no-fly" zone. In early 2001, he said, he and other Kurdish leaders met with three CIA officers to discuss how to overthrow Hussein.
Later that year, Krekar founded Ansar al-Islam, or Followers of Islam. The network carved out a small territory near the Iranian border and engaged in skirmishes with other Kurdish factions. U.S. counterterrorism officials suspected that Ansar sheltered al-Qaeda fugitives who had fled Afghanistan after the U.S. invasion there in 2001.
In September 2002, after crossing the mountainous border with Iran, Krekar was detained by Iranian authorities and put on a flight to Amsterdam. Upon landing, he was arrested again, this time by Dutch authorities, who said he was wanted for extradition to Jordan on drug charges.
Krekar said that the allegations were trumped up and that he had never been to Jordan. His attorneys said U.S. officials had orchestrated the detention.
Dutch officials confirmed U.S. involvement in the case but didn't elaborate. "You can assume the Americans have an interest," Dutch Justice Ministry spokesman Martin Bruinsma told reporters.

more at the link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6120301088.html


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22 06 2006
Krekar honors al-Zarqawi
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1362852.ece
Mullah Krekar has praised both Osama bin Laden and the recently killed Iraqi al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in an interview with a Kurdish newspaper.

13 03 2006
Krekar claims Islam will win
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1247400.ece
Norway's most controversial refugee, Mullah Krekar, told an Oslo newspaper on Monday that there's a war going on between "the West" and Islam. He said he's sure that Islam will win, and he also had praise for suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden.

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Krekar threatens Norway
Norway's most controversial refugee has lodged a threat against the country that has hosted him and his family for the past 14 years. Mullah Krekar calls his possible deportation "an offense" that shouldn't go unpunished.
Oslo newspaper Aftenposten reported Tuesday that Krekar, in an interview with Arab TV station Al-Jazeera, vowed he will never go along with a deportation order issued by Norwegian authorities. Cabinet Minister Erna Solberg initially ordered him sent out of the country in February 2003, calling Krekar a threat to the country.

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He told Al-Jazeera, therefore, that "everyone must know" that a deportation to Iraq "is an offense that shouldn't be made without punishment."
Krekar wasn't specific, however, about what kind of punishment he thinks Norway should receive if a court upholds Solberg's deportation order.
"I have faith in Allah," Krekar told Al-Jazeera in the text of the interview dated August 31. "I defend my rights in their court just like Western people defend their rights. I am patient like they are patient. But if my patience runs out, I will react like Orientals do."

14 6 2005
Krekar's group tied to slaughter
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1059262.ece
The guerrilla group once headed by Mullah Krekar, who's currently battling a deportation order in an Oslo court, reportedly cut the throats of dozens of prisoners before fleeing US troops in 2003. The chilling report came from a Norwegian official who visited northern Iraq…

08 04 2004
Krekar accused of bin Laden praise
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article927167.ece
German media claim that controversial Norwegian resident mullah Krekar congratulated Osama bin Laden shortly after the terrorist attack on the USA on Sep. 11, 2001.

17 03 2004
Madrid bombing suspects visited Krekar
A French investigator claims to have evidence linking controversial mullah Krekar (picture) to Jamal Zougam, currently jailed on suspicion of being one of the leaders behind the massive train bombings in Madrid, newspaper VG reports.
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Well, some people in Norway don't take this guy too serious though.... smileNew4.gif
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Immigrant comedienne maddens Mullah
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article783368.ece
Norwegian-Pakistani humorist Shabana Rehman pulled a stunt during a public debate with Mullah Krekar, the controversial former leader of the militant group Ansar al-Islam that left the religious man fuming and threatening a lawsuit. Rehman, a popular stand-up comic who specializes in material based on culture collision, picked the mullah up off the ground, an act he called a gruesome humiliation.
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He was furious and promised a law-suit... (he never did because I think he just wants to forget about this situation)

This is the only picture of it that I've seen of it - she's a very strong woman:
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This man should not be deported. If he is deported he will continue causing trouble and continue to use the freedoms made available by decent people as a weapon against them. He needs to be neutralised by being stuck in prison and the key thrown away. No visitors except counsel, no letters, no phone calls, no internet = no more crimes.




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I tend to agree with you Uggliozzi, but unfortunately common sense and politics don't work together too well face.gif



Scandinavia's first astronaut - Christer Fuglesang - is on his way to ISS. He's raised in Sweden with a norwegian father. We are very proud of him! jam.gif
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Prize winner 'deeply honoured'
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Muhammad Yunus, an economics professor who started making tiny loans to impoverished people in Bangladesh 30 years ago, accepted the Nobel Peace Prize for 2006 in Oslo on Sunday, saying it gives "honour and dignity" to millions. He also took the opportunity to criticize the war in Iraq and appeal for creation of more socially minded businesses.




Oh -and children and I have started baking for Christmas:
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How is that Muhammad Yunus? If we only had ten more like him, we could virtually eliminate the degredation of the disadvantaged.

If ever a person needed recognition it is him. Congratulations to the Nobel prize committee for having the presence of mind and the cojones to select him. And isn't he a nice guy? We can all learn from this man.




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How is that Muhammad Yunus? If we only had ten more like him, we could virtually eliminate the degredation of the disadvantaged.

If ever a person needed recognition it is him. Congratulations to the Nobel prize committee for having the presence of mind and the cojones to select him. And isn't he a nice guy? We can all learn from this man.



Uggliozzi,

It was a controversial choice even for Norwegians – he’s been suggested before but not winning. Many people ask themselves why a bankier should win a PEACE price?

I do see that social development can stop or prevent wars – but I do also know that corruptions follow the money. And he has created a BIG business.


I've said for many years that Norwegian 3rd world aid is doing NO good for the 3rd world. We are sending money – a lot of money - which to a great deal ends up in the hands of the corrupted government/sadministrations of the countries.

I've said- let's do business with these countries - let us import their products.
Instead we’re experiencing something like an embargo! To protect local (agricultural) business. Especially within the EU. So – in this matter I do see the advantages of people like Yunus to help people getting started doing business…


I think the Norwegian Committee of Peace Prize also loved the idea of his extension of small loans to WOMEN that wants to start business – but are too poor to qualify for traditional bank loans. Maybe an idea of liberation in all of it?
They say women handle money better than men… hehe…

I don’t know what to think about this guy really…

In the end - they say development from below serves to advance democracy and human rights - but what is Democracy but just an other set of rules really?


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Hehe… here is a traditional Norwegian Christmas Dinner-menu - just for Thor!
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Little Christmas Eve
Rice porridge with a hidden almond. The lucky one to find it gets a marzipan pig or a big chocolate as reward!

(I’m used to eat LUTEFISK - fish steeped in lye! – as the main dish but I’m the only one in my family eating this speciality so I don't cook it anymore sadoriginal.gif
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Christmas Eve:
salted and dried lamb ribs…. Steam boiled! Mmmmmm
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Dessert : creamy rice porridge with warm blackberries…

Christmas day:
RIB ROAST WITH crispy CRACKLING . mmmmmm ….
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Dessert: ice cream: cloudberry cream

1st Christmas day:
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cold rib from day before and
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DRINKING:
All of our Christmas food is quite strong - and therefore needs to be "neutralized" with the traditional Norwegian "Aquavit" a very strong liqueur made from potatoes.

An other speciality is "juleøl", the Yuletime beer that is brewed on the farms, and in modern times also by the breweries. The custom of brewing this special beer can be traced back through the centuries to the time when horns filled with beer during the Joulu festivities were dedicated to the Norse gods Odin, Frøy and Njord. But when modern-day Norwegians at Christmas time lift their glasses in the traditional Scandinavian "skål" (Pronounced scawl), they give little or no thought to their viking forefathers who lifted the horns of sacrificial beer to drink for peace and a good year to come.

The juleøl tradition survived the country's conversion to Christianity simply because people refused to give it up. And the rulers wisely chose to give the old tradition new symbolic meaning, rather than abolish it. The beer was no longer to be considered as a sacrificial drink: it was just to be called Holiday beer. And, according to one of the old laws of the land, it should be "blessed on Christmas night, to Christ and the Virgin Mary".
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Ah yes Blue Eyed,

It seems that among the poverty-stricken everywhere it is the women who work the micro-businesses that lift themselves and their communities.

I ask myself - why? What is wrong with the men? As a western male I have no experience of the issues. I see it here in Australia. When I go to support an indigenous site I see that all the public works such as landscaping and beautification have been done by the ladies. Go into an indigenous adult education classrooom and there are few men - the rest are laying about in the sun.

I think it is all misplaced ego - "I am a hunter - trivial matters are beneath me." Well I think, "Go and bloody-well hunt then. When you can feed your family, then you can lie around in the sun like a lizard." They make me sick.

I have worked for over fourty years at jobs I hated to see my family OK while my wife provided traditional motherhood so that we could raise decent citizens. For some years a night out for us was walking into town and going window shopping. Now we aren't rich but we owe no man and I have retired to my workshop and garden. If anyone thinks I am less of a man because I worked while my wife stayed at home then they are sadly mistaken.


Even though we live in the southern hemisphere where it is hot in December, our Christmas fare will be surprisingly English. Roast chicken, roast lamb and roasted vegetables done in an outdoor barbecue kettle so as not to heat the house up and crusty home-baked bread. Cold smoked mutton with home-made date and tomato chutney or crispy-skin salmon with sweet lemon sauce as the appetiser. Plum pudding with custard (sauce anglaise) or fresh fruits with cream or ice-cream for dessert. As we are not alcohol consumers, we will drink fruit juices and soft-drinks. We will eat outside in the shade of the grape vines until mid-afternoon when the youngest will "play Santa" and hand out the gifts under the tree. Except for the dog's gift - she can unnerringly identify her own gift among all the others and has a ripping good time getting the wrapping off.

On the subject of Christmas lunch - please be careful what you feed to your dog. In Oz there is a condition known to veterinarians as "Boxing Day Syndrome" because it becomes prevalent the day after Christmas Day. Everyone likes to have the dog join in Christmas festivities but this can be excruciating or even fatal for the dog. A large meal for the dog can cause a condition called pancreatitis where the dog's digestive juices start to digest the dog's pancreas. This causes immense pain and the dog can die in agony. Fatty items are the worst culprit. If you want the dog to be part of the feast please select quality rather than quantity. Remember also that chocolate is a dog killer and onions are toxic to the dog's liver.




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Hey l don't let Thor go hog wild with his treats.


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I think that Thor is a very lucky dog to have someone care for him as much as you obviously do - best wishes.




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